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1911gobang
07-16-2013, 10:31 PM
Okay, I have decided that I need to invest in a Dillon 650 for 223. I'm not planning on a half assed system. I am going full tilt boogie with case feeder, bullet feeder.....
The whole 9 yards....

Does anyone have one of these? I would like to see one in action. Also, is there a "master list" of all the necessary items? I am willing to put up to $1,200.00 into it, and I think I can set up a complete 223 rig with that budget.

My other calibers are fine.

Ready? Go.....

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BurnedOutGeek
07-16-2013, 10:37 PM
Just get the 1050

;)

Starkherz199
07-16-2013, 11:00 PM
Shooters supply just got some in yesterday Allen.

lucky13bullets
07-16-2013, 11:30 PM
what caliber are you looking to start with, we got one in a couple of weeks ago for a customer for under your price range, in 45acp, and then got him the conversion kit for 40 and he still had money left over to buy some bullets.... give me a call and i can see what i can do and if they are in stock...



Don

Tailhunter
07-17-2013, 05:55 AM
Check out brian enos dot com
Very helpful place, he has lists, recommendations and you can call and talk to him in person.
Can order everything right there.

spuddicus
07-17-2013, 06:51 AM
Only issue with .223 on the 650 is you can't swage primer pockets on the press. BoG might have been joking but if you're going full special on .223 then the 1050 is superior simply for the on press swaging.

And the 1050 comes with a casefeeder so that's not an added 'expense' I know it's a lot more expensive but you'll be the coolest kid on your block.

BurnedOutGeek
07-17-2013, 07:06 AM
Nope, wasn't kidding. Get the best tool for the job.

1911gobang
07-17-2013, 07:47 AM
Yeah, I was looking at the 1050, and the included case feeder is a huge plus to that setup. Does it have provisional space for case trimming? Is case trimming uber-critical for semi rifles? I have several 223 rifles, but none of them are bolt guns. Not sure about the tolerances involved. If it isn't necessary, I see no need for it.

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mckenziedrums
07-17-2013, 07:55 AM
You're going to want to trim your brass... while pistol brass is usually just fine without trimming you definitely want to trim the rifle brass. I've got the dillon trimmer and it's a beast :)

spuddicus
07-17-2013, 08:16 AM
Dillon rt1200 is good for trimming brass to length (think Dillon says a 'few thousandths'). If you're going to be converting to 300BO which removes a lot of material off the brass, you'll need some modifications.

bigfelipe
07-17-2013, 12:58 PM
tsconver just set up exactly what you're talking about A. Hit him up...

Wardor
07-17-2013, 01:24 PM
A bullet feeder is nice, but really I prefer manually seating them (I feel the dies are not as consistent). The Mr Bulletfeeder is one of the most expensive bullet feeders out there, so expect to spend $450-500 to get started on that and another $150+ to change calibers (note that they use different toolheads, so if you are getting one, don't buy extra Dillon toolheads).

What you want to get rolling is the Dillon XL 650, Strong Mount, Roller Handle (aluminium -- much nicer than ball), Bullet Tray (reduces reach and provides a good tool shelf when changing calibers -- but if you get the bullet feeder, may not be worth it), Case Feeder.

Here is the best bullet feeder for the Dillon by far (http://czcustom.com/mrbullet-feeder.aspx).

spuddicus
07-17-2013, 01:39 PM
Roller handle is a must if you're doing a lot of reloading (Think that's included in the 1050 cost as well)
Strong mount is nice as well(xl650), and I spent the money and got the Dillon tool holder that attaches to the strong mount
I can see the benefit of the bullet tray, don't think it's necessary though.




A bullet feeder is nice, but really I prefer manually seating them (I feel the dies are not as consistent). The Mr Bulletfeeder is one of the most expensive bullet feeders out there, so expect to spend $450-500 to get started on that and another $150+ to change calibers (note that they use different toolheads, so if you are getting one, don't buy extra Dillon toolheads).

What you want to get rolling is the Dillon XL 650, Strong Mount, Roller Handle (aluminium -- much nicer than ball), Bullet Tray (reduces reach and provides a good tool shelf when changing calibers -- but if you get the bullet feeder, may not be worth it), Case Feeder.

Here is the best bullet feeder for the Dillon by far (http://czcustom.com/mrbullet-feeder.aspx).

cranbiz
07-17-2013, 06:04 PM
Shawn at Start to Finish (tsconver) just bought a 650 for .223 and 300BO. All he has to do not is clean the drool from it.

spuddicus
07-18-2013, 12:27 AM
Shawn at Start to Finish (tsconver) just bought a 650 for .223 and 300BO. All he has to do not is clean the drool from it.

http://www.carolinashootersclub.com/threads/137795-Poor-mans-dillon-rt1200?highlight=dillon+trimmer

Kind of like that ;cf

Wardor
07-18-2013, 08:33 AM
Yeah, I was looking at the 1050, and the included case feeder is a huge plus to that setup. Does it have provisional space for case trimming? Is case trimming uber-critical for semi rifles? I have several 223 rifles, but none of them are bolt guns. Not sure about the tolerances involved. If it isn't necessary, I see no need for it.

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Case trimming with the RT1200 requires a dedicated toolhead. You can't do it in line with the rest of the reloading process in the 550, 650 or 1050. Also, if you are interested in making 300 BO the RT1200 isn't powerful enough to hold up to that long term and Dillon will not warranty it for that purpose (apparently there are bushings that only fail when you remove a lot of material at once).

Thunderhead
07-19-2013, 04:05 PM
Dillon Fan Boy here. Have 550's 650's and 1050's. If you plan to mil surp brass you will have to swage the primer pockets. The 1050 is the only Dillon press with the swager built into it. You could get the Dillon Super Swage for an extra c-note and do it off the press. No big deal I can swage a ton of brass in a short time.

The only problem is the 1050 does not carry the Dillon Lifetime No BS warranty as it is a commercial press.
Hope this helps

Down Zero
07-20-2013, 02:30 PM
If your going to buy a bullet feeder than MR Bullet feeder is the only one to get. That is going to put you way over your budget!