Wounded Warrior Project a Scam?

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  1. Wahoo95

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    Wouldn't surprise me. So many charities are bloated at the top. Some have as little as 3% of their money going to their stated cause due to mismanagement of funds and beaurecratic filler.
     
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    I look into it and a few others......

    When I found the facts like were pointed out like

    "Total 2011 revenues were $154.9 MM with total fundraising expenses of $20.5MM and total administrative expenses, including outsourced services, of $95.5MM. Note that the total administrative expense includes fund raising. Therefore, as a percentage of total revenue, administrative expenses amount to 61.63%, including fundraising expenses of 13.2%. This equates to 38.36% of revenues available to benefit wounded warriors.

    As far as I can determine, WWP outsources all major functions, including fundraising, legal, donation processing, donation distribution, etc.

    Compensation for the top ten WWP employees runs from $150K to $333K per officer annually."


    It turned me away.

    They have a lot of income but only a small part going back out to the WW in a % of the total.
    Lots of people are making a living from it and programs like it.

    I like the smaller ones like a few I take part in.
    No one takes any money for their work, all money goes into the program.
     
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    Sigma05 can chime in if he sees this thread; he's got experience with WWP.

    To make matters even worse (as if using a wounded veterans charity as a personal enrichment vehicle isn't bad enough), WWP leans anti-gun: http://www.ammoland.com/2012/11/wounded-warrior-project-is-anti-gun/

    This is not uncommon, or I should say, very common with charities - partly a function of who staffs them. Lots of liberals go work for charities right out of college and bring their antigun biases with them.
     
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    Any "non-profit" that spends THAT much on advertising is not focused on its mission.
     
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    i'll stick with the uso, they helped me out a ton for the short time i was in germany and dc. i really cant say enough good things about them. still have the blanket they gave me.
     
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    Can't stand these "Charities". A while back we were just about forced to give to the United Way through payroll deductions, I didn't do it and caught alot of flack from the higher-ups while I worked there over it. But the top people in United Way were all pulling down 6 and 7 figure incomes, plus 6 and 7 figure bonuses and perks. I don't make a ton of money, and what little I give goes to a local animal rescue, run and staffed by all volunteers, as all "Charities" should be. I also volunteer my time with the local Rescue. If you believe enough about a cause, Volunteer your time to work with them, don't make a career out of it, especially if you are draining enough money out of that charity every year to take a hundred or so homeless families off the streets for that year.
     
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    I've heard questionable stuff about these guys also.
     
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    I too worked for a company that the president had breakfast with a United Way Exc. every morning. The president of my company decided one day we should be a 100% United Way donor company. At first I was the only hold back because at the time United Way was giving money to some groups that were anti-gun. Our company president was really up-set with me but soon after a few others employees pulled out too.
    Sometimes it pays to hold you own!!
     
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    As was already mentioned, this is not unique among these "charities," or non-profits. I first learned about it a few years back when some group made a huge hoopla about one of the Sean Hannity events only giving something like 2 or 3 percent of the proceeds to the charity it was supposed to benefit. At that time, there were a couple of articles showing how all of these events operate the same way and that number was about what all of them give out, so there was no merit to the story showing his benefit was diverting funds.
     
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    Yes, there was a bit stink about the United Way a few years ago and the exec was fired. She claimed she was being compensated the same as others, but the numbers were unbelievable. It just about killed them. Many of these organizations have too much overhead. I understand that organization need people to function, but...
    I believe there have been studies done that show some "charitable" organizations do it right with a good percentage of funds flowing through to the intended beneficiaries.
     
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    This is truly disgraceful. But the ones who almost trump this disgrace are those who defend these actions. Case in point: when Gloria whats-her-name for the Charlotte United Way was exposed for making so much and have $800k deposited into her retirement fund, the average response to people was "well that's commensurate with other equal executive positions."

    Wrong is wrong, I don't care what someone's pay chart says. I can make a chart by this afternoon that would make an argument for making millions per year. It's just paper. It has no authority on right and wrong. If you need that much money to run a charity, go work for a bank. When you lose sight of your mission, you fail and usually hurt those you're supporting. It goes for military, corporate, charity, churches....everything. To put actions where my mouth is, I left a cush gubberment job this past year because everyone was jaded and lost sight of the mission. They were happy with fat cat salaries (not on the level of hundreds of thousands, but definitely "handsome" salaries by most of our standards) and couldn't care less about what they were supposed to be doing...what their mission was.
     
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    I heard about a year ago, the WWP was revamped and it was re-organized more as a business than the original charity project it was. new board of directors and such.
     
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    Yea bad stuff all around. Avoid.
     
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    Surprise!
    Nobody learned from the United Way scams? Eff a huge non-profit.
     
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    There are some good charities to give to out there. There are many bad charities as well. Any non-profits that have anything to do with any Hollywood actors I avoid like the plague. I limit my donations to local organizations that I know are making a difference. The Winston-Salem Rescue Mission and American Children's Home in Lexington are a couple at the top of my list.

    I've noticed that whenever the Hollywood types get involved, they like to raise "other people's money" instead of sacrificing their own. I realize their are a few good exceptions, such as the Gary Sinise Foundation.
     
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    Very good guy there........
     
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    I've tried contacting the WWP about a combat vet friend of mine in serious need of physical assistance several times and got no response from anyone. They can sit on it for all I care.
     
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    I make pretty regular donations to charity out of my holster sales. Most of my personal donations are tithed to my Church.

    Quite a few donations from sales have gone to Operation Heal Our Patriots through Samaritan's Purse. It's geared towards veterans AND their spouses. I'm a firm believer in marriage. And IMO working with the vet and spouse is the best plan for getting the entire family back on track. I also believe that fixing broken marriages goes toward fixing society at large.

    I bailed on WWP a whole back for the reasons listed above.
     
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