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    VEPR 7.62X54R IZHMASH Stocks


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    As some of you know I want a VEPR, and am about to pull the trigger.

    You can't get this (a current production SVD) or at least I can't afford one if it can be had.
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    They now use synthetic stock. (I know most of yall like wood as do I).

    I hate the thumbhole stock, as that is not the way the weapon is supposed to be represented as intended by god and the communists LOL , it's just for sporting import reasons.

    So I came across these IZHMASH stocks and forarms that will work on the VEPR http://blackhorsearsenal.gostorego.com/stocks.html
    What do you guys think about it on a VEPR?

    Here is what it looks like with the IZHMASH Stocks. What about the 27" version and this stock and hand-guard?
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    Last edited by Silver_Bullet; 07-17-2012 at 03:53 PM.

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    I think itll look tight as sheet.....I want one and i was actually going to buy svd furnature and making a handgaurd retainer for it....but then I saw the rhineland arms svd kit and im on the fance about dressing my psl with that kit.
    http://www.troupsystems.com/svd%20kit.htm

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    Is that a heavy barrel on the VEPR? IOW, will it shoot the heavier grain 54r?
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    Quote Originally Posted by SCshooter57 View Post
    Is that a heavy barrel on the VEPR? IOW, will it shoot the heavier grain 54r?
    Yes Sir, It will shoot the heavy stuff. No need to just use the light ball only like with a PSL.
    The barrel and receiver is thicker than the PSL's. The VEPR is Quality from MOLOT. The VEPR is nice, don't you think so? They all have heavy barrels, some models have heavy match grade and fluted barrels. Supposed to be accurate, I have read good things, and I would love to find out for myself soon .
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    I've looked at the Black Horse Arsenal stocks as a potential replacement for my PSL stock... Very nice, but very expensive as well. $300 range I though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Silver_Bullet View Post
    Yes Sir, It will shoot the heavy stuff. No need to just use the light ball only like with a PSL.
    The barrel and receiver is thicker than the PSL's. The VEPR is Quality from MOLOT. The VEPR is nice, don't you think so? They all have heavy barrels, some models have heavy match grade and fluted barrels. Supposed to be accurate, I have read good things, and I would love to find out for myself soon .
    With the furniture replacement, it is very nice! I own a PSL and hadn't really considered a VEPR mainly because of the furniture that comes on it. But you, sir, have the recipe for a great looking shooter. Do you know if the end of the barrel is threaded for a flash hider to be added if desired?

    Looking forward to a range report if & when you do get one of these.
    Dare in Brocca

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    That would be sexy. I've been passively looking to pick up a VEPR for a while now.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SCshooter57 View Post
    With the furniture replacement, it is very nice! I own a PSL and hadn't really considered a VEPR mainly because of the furniture that comes on it. But you, sir, have the recipe for a great looking shooter. Do you know if the end of the barrel is threaded for a flash hider to be added if desired?

    Looking forward to a range report if & when you do get one of these.
    I bet the flash out of anything but the 27" model in 7.62x54r will be considerable. The 16 and 20 inch will not burn up the powder. IDK about the 23" Model.

    No they are not factory threaded.
    Here is a VEPR 7.62x54r converted already.
    http://www.atlanticfirearms.com/storeproduct1221.aspx
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    Which barrel length are you considering?
    Personally, I like your first VEPR pics with the dragunov type furniture better than the AF converted one. But I would look into adding a flash hider regardless of barrel length-preferable a threaded one but I'd take a pinned one if that was the only choice.

    And dang you! You just made my wish list one item longer!
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    Dahhh... I gotta have one with the SVD stock

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    Quote Originally Posted by SCshooter57 View Post
    Which barrel length are you considering?
    Personally, I like your first VEPR pics with the dragunov type furniture better than the AF converted one. But I would look into adding a flash hider regardless of barrel length-preferable a threaded one but I'd take a pinned one if that was the only choice.

    And dang you! You just made my wish list one item longer!
    Well considering I know how much of a flame thrower a m-44 Mosin is with a 20" barrel, 16" and 20" are out of the question. I would go 23". Maybe 27" if you want it to be like a SVD. I know a short and stiff barrel is more accurate (moa potential with optics not sight radius with irons), but a longer barrel gives more FPS, but the AK action whips a long thin barrel.

    I don't know what the optimum length is for 7.62x54r, where it burns up all the powder, and the rest is just added length. Maybe someone who knows can answer. Example Does it take 23 25 27 or 29 inches to burn all the powder in typical surplus 7.62x54r?

    That being said, if you want a threaded barrel, you should get a 27" and take it to someone who does good work, and they can cut it down to desired length and thread it.

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    Gun control makes people demonstrably less safe--as any honest examination of criminal statistics reveals. It is no coincidence that violent crime flourishes in the nation’s capital, where the individual’s right to self-defense has been most severely curtailed.
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    23-24" is optimum length... or at least that's what one college kid with a mosin and a hacksaw found with some experimenting.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mckenziedrums View Post
    23-24" is optimum length... or at least that's what one college kid with a mosin and a hacksaw found with some experimenting.
    LOL was that kid you?

    When the 2nd Amendment speaks of a “well-regulated militia,” it means local groups of individuals operating to protect their own families, homes, and communities. They regulated themselves because it was necessary and in their own interest to do so. The Founders themselves wrote in the Federalist papers about the need for individuals to be armed.

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    Negative... look at the brasstacker site. They have a pdf from the study. I'll link later when I get home of you can't find it. He checked velocities of various lengths and tried to check volume as well.

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    Well, I bit. Have a Southpaw 16" coming. Figure its only gonna get harder to get. Now onto the SVD stock... Looks like you have to mod the gas tube?
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    Quote Originally Posted by rugerlc9lm View Post
    Well, I bit. Have a Southpaw 16" coming. Figure its only gonna get harder to get. Now onto the SVD stock... Looks like you have to mod the gas tube?
    Get this!!!! From Iron Wood Designs
    http://ironwooddesigns.com/IWDVEPRSVD.html




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    Gun control makes people demonstrably less safe--as any honest examination of criminal statistics reveals. It is no coincidence that violent crime flourishes in the nation’s capital, where the individual’s right to self-defense has been most severely curtailed.
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    nice but the other stock is adjustable and the cheek pad is good for left or right.
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    Quote Originally Posted by rugerlc9lm View Post
    nice but the other stock is adjustable and the cheek pad is good for left or right.
    That is true, but wood looks better than plastic!

    When the 2nd Amendment speaks of a “well-regulated militia,” it means local groups of individuals operating to protect their own families, homes, and communities. They regulated themselves because it was necessary and in their own interest to do so. The Founders themselves wrote in the Federalist papers about the need for individuals to be armed.

    Gun control makes people demonstrably less safe--as any honest examination of criminal statistics reveals. It is no coincidence that violent crime flourishes in the nation’s capital, where the individual’s right to self-defense has been most severely curtailed.
    (Ron Paul)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Silver_Bullet View Post
    That is true, but wood looks better than plastic!

    It does look nice, but only if I am the only one shooting it. Being left handed, it wouldn't be as much fun taking to the range with friends as the other stock.
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    And its ordered...
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