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    Turkey Shoot Guns


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    Turkey shooting comps are going all around my house. So lets see some of them turkey guns. Ill start H&R topper 158 with 32inch barrel, full choke.



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    only last 4 inches count

    since everything on the internet is 'true':
    i've seen information about shotgun chokes
    which state that barrel length is not a factor.
    only the Last Four Inches before the muzzle
    determine the choke. so, according to this,
    an XX-full turkey-shoot gun
    could have an 18" barrel.

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    since im no expert it would make since but yet the longer the barrel the more accuracy i would suspect since its basically a smooth bore with shot in it but i think the long barrel has a role in all of this since ive never seen a
    18.5" with choke tubes come from a factory and the 870 has been around for a long while and they still use 26"+ length barrels with rem chokes to this day for all of there turkey guns

    but im no expert but maybe a someone else knows the truth of the matter

    will post pics soon but my turkey gun is either my
    old 20ga stevens pump or my trusty 12ga 870 express super mag.

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    When slower burning black powder was used in shotgun shells extra barrel length did translate to more range. With the longer barrel, a higher percentage of the powder would ignite creating more thrust behind the shot stream. Today's smokeless powder burns so fast that barrel length is not a factor with regard to pattern or range.

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    I've got a Savage mod 94 single shot with a 30" full choke. Bought it brand new for $50, it was the first "real" gun I ever owned. The first turkey shoot I ever shot in I won a canned ham right off the bat. That was so easy I proceeded to shoot multiple other times without a win...which rendered that ham rather expensive! Never much participated in many more shoots that I remember.
    But man, the doves I shot with that gun and thousands of rounds I put through it....

    That H&R of yours has a pretty piece of wood on the stock.
    Gloria In Excelsis Deo!

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    turkey shoot

    Thanks I finished the wood myself. I was told that the more you can slow your shot down the more it helps tighten the group. Some guns have wad stopper rings in them to even slow down the shot that much more. The longer the barrel is also gives the shot more time to kind of group inside a little better before it comes out.

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    Ive got an 870 Wingmaster with 36 inch barrel. Il put a pic up later!
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    Remington 11-87 with a 28" barrell and a modified choke.

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    Without diving in to the science behind it all, I have to disagree on the grounds of my gut feeling (and it's a BIG feeling)...a longer barrel must make a difference.

    I've got an H&K FP6 that comes stock with a 20" barrel and a modified cylinder choke. It was never a good option for shooting clays with, presumably due to the short barrel length. I bought a 28" barrel with the same choke, and now the gun is a contender. Maybe it's got more to do with the shooter's ability to aim a longer barrel than it does the barrel affecting the shot...but a longer barrel IS worth something on a shotgun.

    This is a perfect homebrew MythBusters experiment!

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    since ive never seen a
    18.5" with choke tubes come from a factory
    I have a Mossberg 500 with an 18.5" accuchoke barrel from the factory (a factory overrun on an order for the US Marshal's Service).

    I have a Remington 870 20 ga with an 18.5" Remchoke factory barrel (a youth gun)

    I have a Remington 870 12 ga with a 20" Remchoke factory barrel

    I have a Remington 11-87 with a 21" Remchoke factory barrel.

    Remington has in the last few years started producing 18.5" 12 ga. barrels with Remchokes (their "tactical" line comes so equipped with a breaching choke).

    Maybe it's got more to do with the shooter's ability to aim a longer barrel than it does the barrel affecting the shot...but a longer barrel IS worth something on a shotgun.
    Re: busting clays, a longer barrel allows you to swing more smoothly and thus be more successful in your followthrough. The longer sight plane also aids accuracy.

    Here's what Remington's tech folks have to say on barrel length and pattern/range:

    Will a longer shotgun barrel shoot farther?
    Will a longer shotgun barrel shoot farther?
    Modern smokeless powders burn in the first 13 to 16 inches of the barrel and maximum velocities are obtained in the first 20 inches. Shot will carry the same distance regardless of the barrel length. Shot pattern will be the same whether the barrel is 21 inches in length or 30 inches in length, if the barrel has the same choke constriction.

    Our experts state there would be a small variation in velocity when using a 21-inch barrel as compared with a 30-inch barrel; however, the variation would be immeasurable.

    The basic advantage of a shorter barrel is that it will swing faster. The longer barrel gives the hunter a longer sight radius to be more precise, particularly when pass shooting waterfowl. Also, the longer barrel can often help balance certain shotguns better.
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    I haven't been to a turkey shoot in years, but from what I've seen at turkey shoots there's a high level of customization in dedicated shoot guns.

    Theoretically a man could take a 32" full choke or x-full choke barrel and have it backbored and make a helluva gun that would outshoot anything with a screw in choke.

    Generally speaking barrels that are fixed choke will have a more gradual taper in the choke and will have less deformed shot and theoretically more consistent patterns. Screw in chokes, while convenient, are necessarily shorter than the choke taper of a fixed choke barrel and give a harder, more abrupt transition from full cyl bore diameter to the choke diameter resulting in the likelihood of more pellet deformation.
    The answer to this question is straightforward: The purpose of having citizens armed with paramilitary weapons is to allow them to engage in paramilitary actions. The Second Amendment is not about Bambi and burglars whatever a well-regulated militia is, it is not a hunting party or a sport-clays club. It is remarkable to me that any educated person let alone a Harvard Law graduate believes that the second item on the Bill of Rights is a constitutional guarantee of enjoying a recreational activity. - Kevin D. Williamson, National Review







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    Quote Originally Posted by rantingredneck View Post
    I haven't been to a turkey shoot in years, but from what I've seen at turkey shoots there's a high level of customization in dedicated shoot guns.

    Theoretically a man could take a 32" full choke or x-full choke barrel and have it backbored and make a helluva gun that would outshoot anything with a screw in choke.

    Generally speaking barrels that are fixed choke will have a more gradual taper in the choke and will have less deformed shot and theoretically more consistent patterns. Screw in chokes, while convenient, are necessarily shorter than the choke taper of a fixed choke barrel and give a harder, more abrupt transition from full cyl bore diameter to the choke diameter resulting in the likelihood of more pellet deformation.
    Right, but there's still a high level of random luck involved...especially since everyone shoots the same (cheap) ammo. The one turkey shoot I've ever been to had probably 50+ shooters...most, like me, without a "dedicated" turkey shoot gun, others with ridiculously modified or specific turkey shoot guns that didn't look practical for anything else! There weren't many repeat winners.

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    but there's still a high level of random luck involved...
    Indeed, it's a game of millimeters and that last millimeter or so is probably more dependent on a butterfly flapping his wings in Hong Kong than the degree of taper or constriction in your choke tube, or barrel length.
    The answer to this question is straightforward: The purpose of having citizens armed with paramilitary weapons is to allow them to engage in paramilitary actions. The Second Amendment is not about Bambi and burglars whatever a well-regulated militia is, it is not a hunting party or a sport-clays club. It is remarkable to me that any educated person let alone a Harvard Law graduate believes that the second item on the Bill of Rights is a constitutional guarantee of enjoying a recreational activity. - Kevin D. Williamson, National Review







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    Quote Originally Posted by Metallisteve View Post
    Right, but there's still a high level of random luck involved...especially since everyone shoots the same (cheap) ammo.
    When my daughter was 10 years old she won a ham with a .410. Only 9 pellets hit the target but one of them was dead center.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shortbus View Post
    When my daughter was 10 years old she won a ham with a .410. Only 9 pellets hit the target but one of them was dead center.
    And that is what Ironically makes these fun! In the same sense that shooting IPDA is fun, your equipment only gets you part of the way there. There's still other factors involved that make up more of the percentage chance of winning (in this case, pure luck!).

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    Quote Originally Posted by snipin101 View Post
    Turkey shooting comps are going all around my house. So lets see some of them turkey guns. Ill start H&R topper 158 with 32inch barrel, full choke.


    Do you shoot at State Line in Laurinburg? I have been there once or twice and really like that guy that runs it.

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