"high end" ARs

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  1. Lowcountry

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    So, I've been seeing this description a lot lately when people ask for ARs in a trade or whatever...

    Curious as to what ya'll think is a "high end" AR -15..

    In my experience, I would list Noveske, Colt, Lewis Machine...

    What others would you include in this group? Where does PSA and Spikes rank?

    thanks
     
  2. Rdinatal

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    I always thought it was an oxymoron. Yeah, there's junk and quality but they're basically milspec.

    I will say that all of mine shoot as expected or better. So I win! Yeah, no help from me...

    -R
     
  3. bamashooter

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    My highest end is a 800.00 government 20" therefore I guess I fall in the trailer trash "black gun" category. If they only knew I also have a DPMS Oracle I would likely be banned from assorted forums. :D I find my two ARs to be excellent for whatever I have designated their intended purpose to be which I'm not quite sure of yet. :rolleyes: Regarding PSA, I'm seeing as many owner-posted negatives, perhaps more, on their products. Pertaining to any product, one thing that drives me nuts is to see these "internet intellectuals" bash something yet have no first hand experience with it.
     
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    I think my Daniel Defense was worth all the pretty pennies that I paid. It isn't anything special but it works.
     
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    The way I look at it, high end ARs are those that cost $3000 plus. Then there is middle tier which almost every factory built AR falls into, despite their price differences, and then there are junk builds. As far as I am concerned, a build is a build and they all fall in the same category. The "nobody else wants your shit" category. Especially in this day of $500 factory ARs.
     
  6. shadowsbane

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    Barnes Precision is a good one. I would consider it higher end. They are very well built, and accurate, but heavy. Daniel defense and BCM are other decent brands in similar tiers.



    Colt in my opinion is a good mid range gun that is priced at the high end. The prancing pony tax can be quite high.

    dollar to value ratio for people starting out, it is hard to beat the Smith Wesson Sport 2. The Ruger 556 isn't bad either, but the bolt is kinda crap. I mean it works, but still.
     
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    I believe based on where the AR industry is today, "high end" means sexy for some folks. The custom crazy colors and billet etc. I belive Noveske, BCM, Colt, Spikes, DD, and several others make great guns. For what you can get a BCM, Colt, or Spikes for, the only other premium is, in my opinion, aesthetics or a piston system. PWS, LWRC, LMT, and a few other of the piston guns are a step up but really, unless you are shooting surpressed or full auto, not a huge improvement.
     
  8. spockrock

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    Noveske, LMT, Knights Armament are what I'd consider "high-end" ARs. Next you have your Daniel Defense, BCM, Colt tier, with Spike's Aero Precision, PSA occupying the next and the likes of DPMS, M&P Sports, Bushmaster at the lower end.

    All of that is completely in my head though. There's absolutely nothing wrong with an M&P Sport, and I'd venture to say it would be as reliable as any "high-end" AR out there. For me, I've settled on that 2nd tier, specifically Colts. My Colts aren't pretty, but they work every time, are of good quality and hold their value unlike any other brand. I see the AR tiers sort of like the tiers of 1911 manufacturers, where in my opinion the sweet spot for a good, working 1911 is $800-1400 or so. Anything above that, from my perspective, you start to get into the world of diminishing returns.

    An $800 Colt is going to work just as well as a $2000 KAC gun; the Colt, however, may have a few scratches and less fancy d00-dads to bolt on. And I for one don't feel bad at all about feeding a Colt steel-case ammo or I don't mind if my Colts get scratches/dings from honest use. I think I'd be hesitant to do that to a gun that costs more than my monthly mortgage payment.....
     
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    You're just jealous.
     
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    Barnes precision machine.
    Research this rifle and you'll be a owner
     
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  12. chad

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    I have this LMT upper I plan on putting on top of a PSA lower...the horror!!!
    I was going to try to get a LMT lower but they are pretty elusive and if you can find one they are ridiculously priced
     

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    To answer your question: PSA and Spikes are low end typically. High end doesn't mean TDP. The only true milspec rifles follow the TDP. What metal is used? What is it treated with? Finish? Tolerances? There are actually few AR manufacturers that follow the TDP. Colt, LMT, BCM, Daniel defense, newer FN come to mind. I choose to own these simply because I think my life and the lives of those I love are worth the extra few hundred dollars each. I want every advantage I can get and having to skip going out to eat for a month is a small price to pay for that in my opinion.

    To clarify, I'm not bashing the cheaper rifles, but you do get what you pay for and for someone that puts down a high round count a year (higher than 5,000 which is probably 100 times what most AR owners put down range) it is very worth it. If you are a casual shooter that plinks around a few times a year, drive on with your DPMS or PSA.

    PS: Barnes makes a great rifle.

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    I was thinking of LaRue Tactical when you said high end. Pure machines!!!!
     
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    I have a unfired Armalite SPR mod1. I was considering selling it then I looked up the prices on them. MSRP was around $1500 and there are none to be found. Anyone know anything about these? Why so damn high?
     

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