Is it illegal to carry gun with Hardball ammo?

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  1. ulflyer

    ulflyer Registered Member

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    At gun store today a customer said that it was now illegal to carry any handgun will hardball ammo. According to him the law was passed out of concern that hardball would pass thru and hit someone else. He further stated that it applied to all calibers, even 22 ammo. Sounds ridiculous to me. Is there anything to this?
     
  2. BurnedOutGeek

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    I heard it was hollow points that were illegal.
     
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    BurnedOutGeek SlayerNut - RIP

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    But seriously. No, he must have been a special kind of special.
     
  4. Zbizzle911

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    Huh? Crazy gun store bs.


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    If shooting hardball is wrong, I don't want to be right,
    ...because I have a crapload of it.
     
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    I knew a kid that was in the delta bravo special teams in high school. Saw him about 7 years later and he was a general amazing he must be hanging around your gun place.
     
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    You were slow dancing with yourself when you typed that weren't you?
     
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    If that's what we're calling it now, then yes.
    lol
     
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    You know what this means... I have some ball 9mm for sale, only 4 times the price marked on the box.
     
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    Smell like concentrated derp.
     
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    What a Maroon.
     
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    Sounds like someone engaged mouth before putting brain into motion. If hardball is outlawed and hollow points are outlawed, what's left??? Good old fashioned semi wadcutter, more effective than either of the above anyway...
     
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    That's why I wear my ear pro when I go into gun shops.
     
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    This is why you should never buy at the LGS and only order stuff from CSC sponsors like my self.
     
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    Worse...
    A good friend and customer...business owner...finally got his CHP application in to Buncombe County.
    So we were talking about it, and I asked him when he expected to actually get it in hand with all the delays etc. etc. A ridiculous time frame, months and months.
    Anyways..he then proceeds to tell me that the instructor who gave the class told the students that-
    1) You can't carry the gun loaded in the car
    2) You can't have bullets in the magazine
    3) You must separate the unloaded magazine from the bullets and firearm and transport them in separate compartments

    I about shat a cow right there. I told him that's all complete non-sense, the law does not differentiate between loaded and unloaded, magazines, bullets, and so on. He could sense that I was visibly upset..not at him..but this clown instructor that preached this crap. It was so wrong I could barely contain it because this de-structor had my buddy convinced this was the law.
    Next day I took him the NCGS, in print, and asked him to show me where all that bunk is. Obviously he couldn't find it because it's not there.
    That's what it took for me to convince him his "instructor" was wrong. He believed hook line and sinker everything that fool had told him.
     
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    It sounds like the instructor confused in state CC with cross country firearm transport, or your friend confused these two categories in the class.

    Items 1, 2, and 3 in your list are what are stipulated in the Firearms Owners Protection Act of 1986 for crossing state lines with a firearm. I.e., if you are traveling from NC to PA through New Jersey and don't stay overnight in NJ, as long as you comply with 1, 2, and 3 you are legal under federal law.
     
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    Oh no...this instructor meant all the time.
    I asked for the instructors name, and he wouldn't give it to me, only "he's from Florida".
    My co-worker took the same class. He and the customer go to the same Church. He verified that's what the instructor had told them.
     
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    You'd think that instructor was from CA with that type of BS information.
     
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    This.
     
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    i heard you can't carry a concealed weapon with Ammo in it. You have to leave the ammo in your pocket. If your weapon is on your right side the ammo has to be in your left pocket or vice versus.
     
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    My co-worker told the customer, that If I said something about firearms, he should take heed-
    "Guns..that's all he does." :D
    I'm not an expert by far, but if I know what I know, I'll say it.
     
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    thats called Barney Fife carry
     
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    I think your LGS customer was double-derping here.

    It's completely absurd to say "it's illegal to carry a pistol loaded with FMJ ammo" in this state.
    But if the guy misunderstood the term "hardball" then it's slightly less absurd to say "It's illegal to carry a pistol with armor piercing ammo."
    It's still incorrect but they may have heard that idea from TV or media and then doubled down by using the wrong word.
     
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    Um...yeah...no


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    Actually...it sounds to me like this guy doesn't even know what "hardball" ammunition is. It's almost as if he tossed it out there like a lot of people spouting nonsense who don't actually know the meanings of the words they're using, much less the subject.

    If he had beliefs like this, what was he doing in a gun store in the first place?
     
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    Several jurisdictions have stupidly banned hollow point ammo. These fools, in doing so, made everyone less safe. But then liberals have always cared more about criminals than the innocent.
    Who cares if more innocent bystanders are hit by FMJ passing through a criminal. It only matters that a criminal will be less damaged by a through and through.
    But it also means many more shots will have to be fired to stop a criminal thus increasing the odds of an innocent iteration being hurt.

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    But not if you pass through NY, according to NY prosecutors anyway. They arrest and charge anyone passing through that is not a manufacturer. They don't mind wasting tax payer money because their goal is bankrupting anyone who oases through the state. Agenda Uber Alles!

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  28. Don

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    Can you imagine what would happen if the instructor was called to testify in the event that one of his students ever has to pull the trigger?
     
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    The Fife carry.
    My favorite.
     
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    I had gotten so good at Fife carry, around 8 seconds, that I decided to slow it down a-bit.
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