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Inebriated, to be clear I not disagreeing with you, I am trying to vet the concept through discussion. Let me ask this: if market forces were effective in bringing about effective solutions, why do we even have such acts that were brought about following court cases over the refusal to change?

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Because legislation is the easy answer to problems that aren't easily solved.
 
Absolutely. Just as we're talking about reversing the NFA and GCA when we speak about personal freedoms. There are tons of laws that have no business being on the books, no matter how well-intentioned.

A very good friend of mine, essentially a sister to me, has a spinal cord injury, and she has for years. I'm intimately familiar with the daily issues involved in using a wheelchair. The ADA is great in its intentions, but being legal and being useful are different things. A ramp is no good when it's too steep to get up independently, or when your showroom is too cluttered to get around in the chair, or when the bathroom isn't on the accessible level. It is exactly the same issue as gun control. Yeah, it sounds good on paper, but education will go miles further than legislation. If people who own businesses don't make accommodations, fine. Inform them, and they either will or they won't change. If they do, great. If they don't, then it's up to those affected to inform others how the business is acting. Would you support a business that actively refused service to a person with a disability? I would not, and have not. Just like I will not support business that refuse CCW (another thing that I support the right of a business to refuse, but will not support that business). I would bet money that that .5% of wheelchair users could inform friends and family, and become 5%, 10%, or more.

It all comes down to the free market, and what the consumer will tolerate. And at the end of the day, when a business is fully within their rights and refuses to change, or your movement never gathered the steam to get them to change..... That's a risk you incur when you choose to live in a free society.
At every opportunity, the government seeks to extend its power and reach into our lives. All it needs is an excuse to act. All it needs is for one person to cry out to the government for help.
Because legislation is the easy answer to problems that aren't easily solved.
Excellent posts, you guys are thought provoking and logical. Thank you.
 
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On her Facebook page she wrote the following... pay particular notice to the last sentence.

"CAIR, (which has documented ties with the terrorist organization, HAMAS) has sent a letter asking Eric Holder and the Justice Department to do something about me.
Imagine that.

"Of course, their letter seeking the investigation, contains one lie after another..
I dissect their post in my article below.
By the way, isn't falsifying information to a law enforcement agency, illegal? (I'll deal with CAIR on that one later)..

It’s easy for CAIR to bully and threaten average American citizens like me who have a business to lose and a life to destroy. It's what they do.
We are the easy targets.

I’ve been a target of Islamist threats for five years..fully expecting at any time one of them to follow through with the threat.
I may go down for speaking the truth about Islam... … I may lose everything I have, (which isn't much) but they can't take my integrity...
This is a mountain I’m willing to die on..."
 
She has milked plenty of free publicity from her posting. I wonder how many Muslim customers she actually had to Begin with.

Richard
 
She has milked plenty of free publicity from her posting. I wonder how many Muslim customers she actually had to Begin with.

Richard
Probably none that matched whatever her stereotypical vision of what a Muslim is. Probably a few that she had no clue of because they didn't match that same stereotypical vision.
 
I have read every post of this thread and have arrived at my own personal conclusion.



The Islamic religion can kiss my ass.

That's really about it. I agree with the majority of what others said as far as the range owners right to discriminate against whomever she chooses on her own property.
 
...and beards...
When I saw the dangerous watch list for terrorists at the airport most of those guys in the photos were clean shaven white males. You would never think that they were terrorists. I was quite surprised.

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Regardless of how a Muslim dresses they are all capable of SJS or "sudden jihad syndrome." For that reason every one of them must be watched.

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Regardless of how a Muslim dresses they are all capable of SJS or "sudden jihad syndrome." For that reason every one of them must be watched.

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Never know when one of them wants to guarantee paradise for themselves and their families.

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