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It's CT? Most everyone, and probably most dogs are anti gun up there. Least in positions of power that is.

Doesn't mean they are keen on murdering children.

The lack of the AR used information started when people thought that it was an AR they pulled out of the trunk of the car. Upon examination of the video it was a Saiga 12.
 
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Ok what's your logic on the governors little speech?
You mean where he said they had prepared for something like this? School shootings aren't exactly a recent phenomenon. Many districts have implemented active shooter plans and drills over the last 15+ years.

It's kinda coincidental that everyone involved is antigun.
It is CT, what did you expect?
 
Ok, I think enewtonsc4 has his mind made up. I don't believe anyone is going to persuade him to think that any other scenario other than his own is really what happened?
I think I understand the people who can't conceive that this was the act of a seriously deranged individual and not some grand conspiracy. Much easier to rationalize for some that these types of things are all made up than deal with the reality that there are sickos living among us who could train a rifle on a child and shoot that child multiple times... over and over again.
 
There's a lot of things that don't add up about the whole thing, I'm no conspiracy theorist but I know when something smells funny, if your ego wasn't so big it was blocking your view of everything you might think the same. I didn't say I knew what did or didn't happen, just that I'm skeptical.
Sir,

My ego is not the issue, your view of this tragedy is.

John
 
Ok, I think enewtonsc4 has his mind made up. I don't believe anyone is going to persuade him to think that any other scenario other than his own is really what happened?
Sir,

My ego is not the issue, your view of this tragedy is.

John
I think I understand the people who can't conceive that this was the act of a seriously deranged individual and not some grand conspiracy. Much easier to rationalize for some that these types of things are all made up than deal with the reality that there are sickos living among us who could train a rifle on a child and shoot that child multiple times... over and over again.
The thing is my mind is not made up. There are a few things about it that make me wonder and that's about the extent of it. The patriot in me doesn't want to believe that the govt would fake something like this to further an unconstitutional agenda, but the father in me hopes that those kids didn't die. The fact is I don't know for sure what happened, and all I do know is the few things I've seen that made me wonder. I never said that it was definately a hoax, like you guys are acting, just expressed the things that should raise an eyebrow...Its not like everytime theres some tragedy I start thinking up conspiracy theories. Fools are typically 100% sure about everything they think and do though.
 
The thing is my mind is not made up. There are a few things about it that make me wonder and that's about the extent of it. The patriot in me doesn't want to believe that the govt would fake something like this to further an unconstitutional agenda, but the father in me hopes that those kids didn't die. The fact is I don't know for sure what happened, and all I do know is the few things I've seen that made me wonder. I never said that it was definately a hoax, like you guys are acting, just expressed the things that should raise an eyebrow...Its not like everytime theres some tragedy I start thinking up conspiracy theories. Fools are typically 100% sure about everything they think and do though.
I think the things you wonder about have been addressed, but you may not take them at face value. No one is saying don't question anything about that day. The fact is there was/is a ton of misinformation out there as happens when there is a tragic breaking news story. Hell look no further than the idea that an AR wasn't even used.
 
I do. But again, you say you dont know what happened in one post while posting what was NOT there in another... Garyshome, did you change names on here?
Your post explains it...you just don't realize it. That'd be like me saying that I knew someone didn't show up to something and you assuming that since I was saying I knew that, that I also was saying that I knew everything that went on at what they didn't show up to...Quit trying to be a prick about something that you aren't 100% sure about either whether you admit it or not. Like I said, the less people know the more sure they are about everything.
 
I'm 100% sure that 20 something kids and a teacher were slaughtered by a nutjob that day.
You don't know that! You were not there! This could all be a conspiracy between the parents, teachers, administrators, staff, school system, first responders, local, state and federal governments and the media! Those kids could all be living on an island together somewhere in the South Pacific just enjoying life!
 
You don't know that! You were not there! This could all be a conspiracy between the parents, teachers, administrators, staff, school system, first responders, local, state and federal governments and the media! Those kids could all be living on an island together somewhere in the South Pacific just enjoying life!
Nope, I'm 100% sure.
 
Most of the money will end up going to taxes, and then the lawyers. Or lawyers then taxes. Will they get some? Yeah probably, but not a great deal. Especially since a case like this is going to take years. People will get rich off of this either way. It ain't going to be them though. Your issue is that you're looking for rational reasonings in actions that are purely emotional. That's the disconnect.

Also keep in mind that these people have been coached since the beginning about how it was the evil rifle that did all the damage, and so on. Started when they were most vulnerable and open to influence in their thought processes concerning the event.
I will give better than even money that the lawyers are putting them up to it to start with. The lawyers are the only ones who will make any real money off this, plus the publicity. They are the ones dancing on the graves of the children.
 
Vultures always come out eventually, some are just sneakier than others.
 
I do like that most people who go the conspiracy route also believe that the government is completely inept at even the most baseline functions yet are able to fully orchestrate something of this level, or larger and have zero leaks.
 
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To fall for something you have to be convinced of it. I don't know what happened that day, but I do know it doesn't all add up. Was it fake, or exaggerated or reported exactly as it occurred... I do not know and none of you do either. You seem to have some strong feelings about someone using their own brain to try n decide if they're being fed BS.
Agreed, but your wasting your time.

First, anyone wanting to label me an AJ fan, don't, I do not care for him.

Mostly seems once any high profile main stream narrative takes a continuous message , right or wrong, it becomes the truth, or rather the accepted truth.

As most have knowledge of, recently there are two high profile cases from Ferguson and New York in which both stories took on their own direction with some facts either being totally ignored or without even having all the facts first.

I also have to agree with Mr. Gruber concerning American people, I hate to ,, but?

His observations concerning Ocare generally fit with any situation.

GRUBER: "Lack of transparency is a huge political advantage."

GRUBER: "American voters are too stupid to understand the difference"
 
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