She's actually just moving to eliminate the Poor Tax or Black Tax as some would call it. Yes, it is a real thing and does disproportionately affect some communities more than others just like the war on drugs with both having racist roots.

 

If its a unfair laws,,Why not just strike them from the books. Just because someone cant afford it doesn't give the right to break the law.

 

Simply put............this is racism.

 

What part the action of Lynch or what she is trying to change.

 

Moved to off topic since it doesn't seem to be firearm related.

No surprise, and quite obvious, this administration only likes to selectively enforce the laws they like.

 

Moved to off topic since it doesn't seem to be firearm related.

No surprise, and quite obvious, this administration only likes to selectively enforce the laws they like.

Agreed sir. And I expect much more of the same between now and next January.

 

@Wahoo95 so are you saying the laws are racist, the selective enforcement is, or both?

If someone violates the law, and they were prosecuted w/o violation of their Constitutional rights, that is on them. The selective enforcement is a different issue, and hard to prove in every individual case. Don't get me wrong, I understand that selective enforcement is a problem in some instances. I am also for paying fines over incarceration for lower level, not violent crimes but I do not see that having an effect on crime on way or the other.

Recently, the federal governent brought a case against the local Sheriff for targeting immigrants. It went to trail, and it was a total crock. Perceived selective enforcement doesn't always equal real selective enforcement.

 

Selective enforcement. This isn't about whether a law is unfair so no need for anyone to make this about whether a law is broken or not. Using Charlotte as an example, CMPD admitted during my Citizens Academy class that the majority of drugs are run through South Charlotte yet most arrest are made in West Charlotte. Also, random Checkpoints are Carried out at a disproportionately high rate in minority communities and this is just Charlotte.

 

I've only read this one article on the subject and points like the ones below are what I base my comments on.

Attorney General Loretta Lynch has issued a warning to municipal and state judges across the country that their courts could lose federal funding if they don't ease up on fines and arrest warrants for minor crimes involving poor offenders, indigent minorities in particular.

Even if applied evenly across all races and in neutral, color-blind fashion, such policies could be found by Justice to be discriminatory.

Under Mayor de Blasio, the NYPD has scaled back its aggressive enforcement of low-level offenses only to see both minor and serious crime rebound. Already cops have backed off public urination and other public nuisance violations, while overlooking outstanding warrants for many other misdemeanor crimes.

Even a senior Justice Department official predicts the decriminalization-cum-deincarceration movement will backfire in higher crime nationwide. "In five years the crime rate is going to be crazy again," he said.

The official, who oversees probation of felons paroled from federal prisons and who requested anonymity, worries the new department policy will be abused.

"I don't see liberal judges even attempting to make people pay or spending the time making an accurate determination of a person being 'indigent,' " he said. "It's another way of not holding people accountable for their actions."

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The current administration has been at the helm for 7+ years...... why haven't they addressed it before now if it's been an obvious problem to them for so long? Perhaps pulling this off with less than a year left in his term could be a factor? If so, that says a lot about his heart and willingness to be effectively lead in my opinion.

Your mileage may vary.

 

The only thing this fool cares about is his supposed legacy. It will be dressed up by the MSM.

 

Is it Friday Night again already?

 

I have about come to the conclusion we would be better off without laws. At least then we are all even.

 

I have no issue with most laws. It's more about how the enforcement of those laws is carried out that's the issue.

 

How do certain segments of society even survive or continue to prosper in this country, it's so set against them?

 

Who?

 

This is an unwinnable argument. Some Police Officers discriminate in their policing, some do not. Some Police Departments do, some do not. Some black officers seek out white's to ticket, just like some black officers seek out blacks to ticket for a variety of personal reasons, and visa versa with white, and oriental, and all other types of officers. They are after all ALL human beings. To just say don't enforce low level laws is ludacris...once "I" learn I can get away with shoplifting bubble gum, how long before its stealing a tv, then a car...then robbing a bank? If you reinforce bad behavior, you are guaranteed more bad behavior.

 

A strongly worded "guidance" letter, written by her civil-rights team, warns that a local court policy of enforcing warrants for failure to pay court fines and fees can have an adverse "disparate impact" on African-Americans, who are fined and/or arrested for outstanding warrants at "disproportionate" rates versus whites.

I actually agree with Lynch on this. Not paying a court fee is not a reason to arrest someone. Personally, I'd just not allow them to update their drivers license, stuff like that. Maybe cut off all social programs until paid, though that can hurt children, so maybe not. Sounds nice in theory, but can be awful, if done wrong.

 

Agreed. These arrest have deeper effects on individuals as well such as making it tougher to get jobs or keep jobs due to missed work. That in itself has deeper effects since the unemployed still have to survive and will more likely turn to getting money thru I'll gotten means.

 

I would love to know the political makeup of some of these cities and departments. Since Police Chief is a political appointment. Because it sure looks like some bastions of liberal politics, policies, and ideas are leading the pack in some of these "discrimination" issues. And I bet they think Racism lives in the South exclusively. It would be amusing if it wasn't such a dang mess. And oddly, if there is a political side to this, the folks being abused refuse to stop voting in the abusers. And if it's not the abused, the folks claiming to be for minorities to get votes don't seem to get much done for them. But I guess folks feel better voting their conscience over substance.

 

I wouldn't have an issue with this "warning" to municipalities if it were uniform and not directed towards blacks. Strikes me as just one more racist move by that racist mulatto that needs to go back to his Chicago hood and stay put.

 

This thread is full of broad conclusions and largely devoid of facts.

Not saying that there is no bias in enforcement, maybe there is. Minorities and the poor are arrested and convicted at higher rates than whites and middle income folks, but that does not prove bias. Isn't it just as likely that minorities and poor are less respectful of laws? I know this was true in my grandparents generation, when they lived in the ghettos of NY and NJ they were entirely disinterested in the law, just in doing what they needed to do to get by.

 

Can a poor person get pro bono representation for a traffic ticket? Seems like there could be something for them since the rest of us can take time or spend the money to "fix" many of these minor annoyances while the working poor shouldn't be skipping a day of work.

I know it sounds like I'm a socialist, but I'd rather not kick the poor folks that are trying. If someone has a job I'm happy to spend a few tax dollars to keep them from taking a day off work. Having said that, it seems to me that it's a rare ADA who doesn't respond positively to someone making an effort, so maybe the poor need training on how to navigate the traffic enforcement system if that's a big problem.

Am I crazy?

 

Can a poor person get pro bono representation for a traffic ticket? Seems like there could be something for them since the rest of us can take time or spend the money to "fix" many of these minor annoyances while the working poor shouldn't be skipping a day of work.

Am I crazy?

Court appointed attorney's come at a steeply discounted price but they still have to go to court to have one appointed.
In NC court appointed lawyers get 55.00 dollars an hour district court and 75 superior court I believe. For simple cases like DWLR it usually is only one to two hours time in comparison to a flat 500.00 fee for the attorney. So while not free it is discounted.