My Next addition im looking for has anyone seen a good price on them locally?
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Tomegun
I saw a good price on them back in 2006 at the gun show :laugh:
Check the Classifieds, they come and go on there pretty regularly
Check the Classifieds, they come and go on there pretty regularly
LOL Im hoping to keep it at 400 or less put most of my money in my AR15 but i figure every collection needs an AK47 .
Yep it kills me I work almost every weekend that the Gunshow is in Town ...I only got to go to one last year.
If you find a great deal - that's awesome! otherwise, personally I would prefer to save another $50-$75 to get a better quality one. Unless you know exactly what you're looking for, how to check them out, etc.
Ive seen the Kalishnikoff kit for less than 200 but dont know whats required to get them back in working order or compliant with NC law.
You should be able to fine a wasr around that,
Mike79 has a mak90 with mags and a little bit of ammo for 450, which is decent.
you would have to spend another 50-70 to make it into a reg ak style rifle, but it would be head and shoulders above a wasr
Mike79 has a mak90 with mags and a little bit of ammo for 450, which is decent.
you would have to spend another 50-70 to make it into a reg ak style rifle, but it would be head and shoulders above a wasr
I got a WASR with a 40rd mag for $425 at the last Fayetteville gun show for my dad. I've seen them at prices varying from $400-$500, depending on the model. Didn't shoot it a whole lot, but it didn't have any problem with the Wolf ammo we feed it.
I dunno about the plain WASRs, but J&G has WASR 10/63s for around $389 iirc. I have two identically prepped 10/63 side folders from there and they have been uber reliable and reasonably accurate. One shoots 2MOA till it gets really hot, the other about double that - like most AKs and FALs. Most shops in the area still have AKs priced a bit high. Iirc Jims Gun Jobbery wanted like $500+ for a WASR last time I was there. Phase V was similar. You get to look over your purchase first, though, which may be worth an extra $100 - $200 to you.
Imho if you need more than a cheap 10/63 it makes sense to just go with a more expensive Saiga build like Arsenal's SGLs. It may or may not be more accurate/reliable, but it will be better overall quality and you won't have to worry about fixing canted sight bases, too tight mag wells, too low bullet guides, etc. I just got lucky with my 10/63s. Some batches can be pretty rough. It's easy to fix CAI AK issues with a hammer and a file, but if you want out-of-the-box quality Arsenal is the ticket.
A MAK90 with mags and ammo at $450 is a good deal, and Mike's a good guy. I'd check that out if'n I wuz you.
Imho if you need more than a cheap 10/63 it makes sense to just go with a more expensive Saiga build like Arsenal's SGLs. It may or may not be more accurate/reliable, but it will be better overall quality and you won't have to worry about fixing canted sight bases, too tight mag wells, too low bullet guides, etc. I just got lucky with my 10/63s. Some batches can be pretty rough. It's easy to fix CAI AK issues with a hammer and a file, but if you want out-of-the-box quality Arsenal is the ticket.
A MAK90 with mags and ammo at $450 is a good deal, and Mike's a good guy. I'd check that out if'n I wuz you.
WASR, MAK, SAIGAs and "other" is how I classify them.
I have a WASR and love it. It runs like a top. I have a collapsible stock and black crap for furniture, but it is just a WASR. It shoots ok, too.
I think you could get one for the low 300 dollar range.
I have two MAK 90s and absolutely without question am crazy about them. They shoot (no scope) 8 inch groups at 100 yards (lol). That is good enough for me. I plan to get a mildot scope on one of them and see if my groups tighten up. Other than a VERY interesting time I had where it got hot and a casing got stuck in the chamber, they will shoot anything anytime, anywhere.
400-500
I have a SAIGA that is probably the most accurate AK I have. Very fine rifle and runs well. 450-550?
I have a Polish underfolder that I really like. Probably the nicest ak I have.
upper 500 to lower 600s
You can go higher, but these four classes of AKs are FINE rifles.
I have a WASR and love it. It runs like a top. I have a collapsible stock and black crap for furniture, but it is just a WASR. It shoots ok, too.
I think you could get one for the low 300 dollar range.
I have two MAK 90s and absolutely without question am crazy about them. They shoot (no scope) 8 inch groups at 100 yards (lol). That is good enough for me. I plan to get a mildot scope on one of them and see if my groups tighten up. Other than a VERY interesting time I had where it got hot and a casing got stuck in the chamber, they will shoot anything anytime, anywhere.
400-500
I have a SAIGA that is probably the most accurate AK I have. Very fine rifle and runs well. 450-550?
I have a Polish underfolder that I really like. Probably the nicest ak I have.
upper 500 to lower 600s
You can go higher, but these four classes of AKs are FINE rifles.
I've got 15 AK's right now, working on a 16th, and have my eye on a Draco pistol for a future SBR. With that said, I've handled and fired quite a few more, including dealer sample machine guns.
First off, if you're looking at kits, and looking at what they cost, stop. The days of building an AK "easily" from a kit for less than a complete rifle are over. Most of the kits you find these days are missing the original barrel, which requires a good bit more work when building.(That's what I'm working on currently, and it is more difficult)
For $400, you should be able to easily find a WASR-10 and a couple of magazines, give or take, at any gun show. You may actually luck up and find a bone-stock MAK-90 with no magazines in that price range, give or take $50 if you look hard enough. As a matter of fact, I passed up a like new MAK-90 with no accesories earlier this year in a pawn shop for $400. I already had one, and have owned 3 at one time or another, so I didn't buy it.
IMHO, a MAK-90 will always have a better resale value than the WASR-10, simply because ANY Chinese AK will never be imported again. The WASR's continue to be imported, and the price reflects that. However, the WASR will have more desireable military features like a threaded muzzle, bayonet lug, cleaning rod, pistol grip, etc. The MAK can be converted to a similar configuration, depending on how much time and money you want to spend, with the easiest being a pistol grip and standard buttstock to replace the thumbhole stock.
Also, the fit and finish on the MAK-90 will be a bit better. The metal on the MAK is salt-blued, but is prone to rust if left in a damp area or not oiled after putting it away. The WASR is typically parkerized, or paint over park. The finish will typically hold up well, but is not as asthetically pleasing as the MAK.
In the end, it's up to you what you want to spend your money on. There are tons of varieties out there, in both factory built imported AK's, and even more in kit building. Unfortunately, AK's are like AR's and the BRD. Once you have one, you'll want another, and another, and another....
First off, if you're looking at kits, and looking at what they cost, stop. The days of building an AK "easily" from a kit for less than a complete rifle are over. Most of the kits you find these days are missing the original barrel, which requires a good bit more work when building.(That's what I'm working on currently, and it is more difficult)
For $400, you should be able to easily find a WASR-10 and a couple of magazines, give or take, at any gun show. You may actually luck up and find a bone-stock MAK-90 with no magazines in that price range, give or take $50 if you look hard enough. As a matter of fact, I passed up a like new MAK-90 with no accesories earlier this year in a pawn shop for $400. I already had one, and have owned 3 at one time or another, so I didn't buy it.
IMHO, a MAK-90 will always have a better resale value than the WASR-10, simply because ANY Chinese AK will never be imported again. The WASR's continue to be imported, and the price reflects that. However, the WASR will have more desireable military features like a threaded muzzle, bayonet lug, cleaning rod, pistol grip, etc. The MAK can be converted to a similar configuration, depending on how much time and money you want to spend, with the easiest being a pistol grip and standard buttstock to replace the thumbhole stock.
Also, the fit and finish on the MAK-90 will be a bit better. The metal on the MAK is salt-blued, but is prone to rust if left in a damp area or not oiled after putting it away. The WASR is typically parkerized, or paint over park. The finish will typically hold up well, but is not as asthetically pleasing as the MAK.
In the end, it's up to you what you want to spend your money on. There are tons of varieties out there, in both factory built imported AK's, and even more in kit building. Unfortunately, AK's are like AR's and the BRD. Once you have one, you'll want another, and another, and another....
Saiga's are considered the "sporting" version of the modern AKM, thanks to the wonderful folks at the BATF. Unfortunately, Saiga's in the stock configuration are probably the only way we will ever see Russian AKM's imported stateside.
Saiga's can accept AK parts to an extent, and with enough work and modification, can accept most of any AK part/accessory. Your best bet, without me typing a page of info, is to search online for Saiga pistol grip conversions. If you are handy with a dremmel tool, a hammer, punch, etc, they are fairly easy, and the sky is the limit. The basic conversion consists of installing a feed ramp to use standard AKM magazines, cutting a square opening in the bottom of receiver for a pistol grip screw, replacing and moving the FCG and replacing and moving the trigger guard.
Saiga 12 forum, mainly for the shotgun, but a ton of info on the other Saiga models as well, is here: http://forum.saiga-12.com/index.php?act=idx
Also a new member to the forum is a virtual gooroo on the Saiga platform, and possibly other AK styles as well, Cobra, you wanna chime in or are you gonna make me drop a dime on ya?
If you wanna buy a Saiga or accessories for the line, check this guy out, he is fairly local in Lugoff, SC: http://store.carolinashooterssupply.com/servlet/StoreFront
Good luck to ya!
Also a new member to the forum is a virtual gooroo on the Saiga platform, and possibly other AK styles as well, Cobra, you wanna chime in or are you gonna make me drop a dime on ya?
If you wanna buy a Saiga or accessories for the line, check this guy out, he is fairly local in Lugoff, SC: http://store.carolinashooterssupply.com/servlet/StoreFront
Good luck to ya!
Don't forget Scott at DPH arms. And Classic arms usually has some that are priced well. Can't say about the build kits. I know that the barrels need to be pressed into the trunion then some rivets (trunion to receiver) need mashed. But heck If Pakistani 5 year olds in caves can build one, I am sure it can't be that bad. On second thought maybe just buy one already finished for the first one. At least then you can have the satisfaction of shooting it right away. Either way I and millions of others around the world love the AK platform. My respect for them went way up after I actually owned and fired one.
Lets not forget the Yugo M70.
Most of the CIA M70's are good to go, sans the plastic furniture.
NcShooter is correct about the way they multiply.
Have you given any thought to a 74?
v/r
JD
AATWLG!
Most of the CIA M70's are good to go, sans the plastic furniture.
NcShooter is correct about the way they multiply.
Have you given any thought to a 74?
v/r
JD
AATWLG!
Im hitting the gun stores today for a get out of the house and go browse and eat lunch day also looking on gun broker ! cant make the next gunshow without taking the day off Bummer Thanks all will look in the directions youve pointed out im not in a hurry since it will be a range weapon.
Hi All
Ok Bought a Wasr -10 Ak47 7.62x39 Can you guys give me the down and dirty do's and donts its my first ak as im more use to my AR15. Im looking for online tear down field strip manual , what type of cleaning and brush ect.. also what type of ammo is best to feed just looking for plinking ammo bought some bear but also looking for bulk buy.
Thanks all Lots of questions sorry!
Ok Bought a Wasr -10 Ak47 7.62x39 Can you guys give me the down and dirty do's and donts its my first ak as im more use to my AR15. Im looking for online tear down field strip manual , what type of cleaning and brush ect.. also what type of ammo is best to feed just looking for plinking ammo bought some bear but also looking for bulk buy.
Thanks all Lots of questions sorry!
To field strip, press in the spring loaded part of the recoil spring(looks like a big square button) on the back of the receiver cover, and remove the receiver cover. Remove the recoil spring assembly, slide the bolt carrier to the rear and lift up and out of the receiver. Turn the bolt carrier over, slide the bolt back, rotate, and then slide it forward away from the bolt carrier.
Look in behind of the top handguard, in front of the action, and you'll see a small lever below the rear sight assembly. Rotate this lever up and forward, then lift the upper handguard/gas tube assembly up from the rear.
If you want to remove the lower handguard, remove the cleaning rod from under the barrel, then gently lift/pry the small lever on the handguard retainer. Once loose, slide the handguard retainer foward, then pull the lower handguard foward and down away from the receiver and barrel.
To remove the muzzle brake/attachment, if applicable, depress the retaining pin located on the front sight block, then unscrew the brake by turning it CLOCKWISE until it clears the retaining pin, then continue unscrewing it by hand.
As for cleaning, you really don't need to clean it that often, unless you want to or unless you are shooting corrosive ammo. But, when you do, run your cleaning rod through the barrel from the rear, as to not damage the crown of the muzzle.
As for the best ammo, steel cased stuff works for me. Wolf, Barnaul, Golden Tiger, Tula/Uly white box, etc. As a matter of fact, most Walmart stores now carry the Tula/Uly white box 7.62x39 for around $5 a box. FMJ and HP typically feed best, and I would steer clear of buying large quantities of soft point until you are sure your gun will feed it. The same can sometimes be said for HP ammo, but it usually doesn't give nearly as many issues as soft point does in some guns.
WASR AKs are just like those you saw in the first desert. I've owned a few and treated them pretty hard and they always came back for more.
I have a Polish UF that I built on a NDS receiver back when kits were $129. Cleaning the rifle is just like most others-CLP or a good qaulity grease (Shooters Choice for example) I use a bore snake for the barrel with a little CLP.
As for ammo, I will NOT use corrosive in any of my firearms. That being said, I've used Golden Tiger, Brown/silver Bear, Yugo, Chicom, Wolf, and USA. Not a single issue with any of the AKs-Norinco, WASR, Romie, or Polish kit.
Congrats on your new TOY
I have a Polish UF that I built on a NDS receiver back when kits were $129. Cleaning the rifle is just like most others-CLP or a good qaulity grease (Shooters Choice for example) I use a bore snake for the barrel with a little CLP.
As for ammo, I will NOT use corrosive in any of my firearms. That being said, I've used Golden Tiger, Brown/silver Bear, Yugo, Chicom, Wolf, and USA. Not a single issue with any of the AKs-Norinco, WASR, Romie, or Polish kit.
Congrats on your new TOY
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