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  1. NCFlyfisher

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    Back in the day quaaludes were consider a form of a alcohol pill due to it's effects.

    Fast forward to today, someone has actually made a Alcohol Pill: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/12/03/alcohol-pill-scientist-pa_n_379095.html

    If alcohol is now in a pill form, will it be classified as an Schedule III type of drug?

    Also this event held on the mountain only had some 4,500 party goers yet some 200 (+/-) were arrested for drugs. Concerts in majors cities which might draw 25,000 to 35,000 people do not have arrests this large. I think that is a key point.
     
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    Amen to that, Alcohol is the #1 most abused, dangerous drug out there. On top of the spouses and kids being abused by drunks, and the people killed and injured by drunk drivers. Add in all the associated medical problems due to alcohol, Chronic alcoholism, liver failure, renal disease, etc.
    The majority of my MVA calls, especially the ones with death or severe injury involved, are alcohol related, I know for a fact the last 10 traffic fatalities I worked were alcohol related.
    Domestic violence, domestic assault, same thing, almost always alcohol is involved.
    The last 3 dead children I worked, all died because the "responsible" adults whose care they were in were drunk.
    Alcohol will take the nicest person you can imagine, and turn them into a 100% total asshat.
    It wouldn't hurt my feelings a bit if they threw alcohol into the mix with all the other "illegal" drugs, but it wouldn't change anything, just like drugs it would still be available, still be abused, it would still be one of the biggest killers out there.
     
  3. Chris B

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    So, basically.. We can all see, hell we likely all know of someone that has abused a substance, be it "drug" or alcohol. They both have negative effects is not used properly. Unfortunately, "drugs" are not allowed to be used properly. Therefore, an illegal drug must be worse than a legal drug.

    Alcohol is bad. Drugs are bad. Bottom line. Again, my opinion is that drugs ruin lives. I never said that alchohol doesn't. I grew up with several alcoholics in my family, and have seen several broken homes, killed friends, etc because of alcohol.

    At the same time, I've seen so many people with great lives, great families, and bright futures quickly downgraded to worthless because their drug use.

    Smoke if you want, hell shoot up if you desire... But keep it away from me. I want nothing to do with your illegal drug use. I will maintain my belief "legal drug use" aka alcohol consumption is the best route.
     
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    I'd be willing to bet that grief you experienced was because marijuana was illegal. How in the world could it otherwise cause you grief; you have an asthma attack?
     
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    OK, so I gotta jump in here. From what I have read, in countries that have legalized or decriminalized drug use, the overall number of drug users has not changed significantly. In other words the so called "war on drugs" is, and has been, a waste of time and money. Folks are going to do what they want anyway. A very good case can be made that drug laws (and other "victimless crime" laws) are directly responsible for a growing disrespect for the law generally.

    If you look at the big picture, all we are really acomplishing is to criminalize thousands of young people every year, particularly young black men, leaving them with a record that makes it difficult for them to get a decent job, keeps them permanently in an underclass and sabotages the future of our nation. This is the real racism behind modern drug laws. The other thing we are doing is funding massive drug gangs south of the border that are destabilizing the Mexican government, creating a national security problem for us and murdering thousands of innocent people. Meanwhile we are spending millions of tax dollars yearly filling jails with people who did no harm to others. Sorry, but this is just plain freaking stupid.

    IMO pretty much anything short of heroin should be legalized and taxed. If you want to put the drug gangs out of business, make importation illegal, but make it legal for Americans to grow or make their own drugs. Driving under the influence of any drug, alcohol pot or anything else, should be punished, because then you are endangering others. I do understand why some of you see the harm done to society by misuse of drugs and want to keep them illegal. Legalizing or decrimilalizing the stuff feels like you are sanctioning drug use, but truthfully you are just dealing with reality. The problem is our politicians run scared at the thought of being painted as soft on drugs and would rather keep things as they are (safe for the politician) than actually face reality and solve a problem.

    OK, rant over. For now.
     
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    I see we learned ZERO from prohibition.

    Swyping typos via Tapatawlk
     
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    When is the last time the government learned anything? And I'm including the folks who keep electing the same jackasses that are obviously wasting our money.
     
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    Food for thought: marijuana and mushrooms are not physically addictive, alcohol is. How many overdoses have there been from marijuana or mushrooms in the recorded history of this planet? Zero. How many deaths are caused by alcohol poisoning every year? Thousands. Do some research on the health hazards of naturally occuring drugs like marijuana and psilocybin- there basically are none.
     
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    Marijuana is physically addictive, long term users typically face depression, loss of appetite, mood swings and more when they try to quit.

    http://www.webmd.com/mental-health/marijuana-use-and-its-effects

     
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    What about the people you buy it from, is it OK for them to harm other people and make it so profitable we have cartel gangsters almost making the country next door ungovernable?
     
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    Easy fix. Make it legal...
     
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    If you've ever been intoxicated from drinking alcohol, or taken any prescription painkillers, then you've done things more potent than weed.

    I agree with the rest of your statement though.
     
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    It is not physically addictive, meaning your body cannot survive without using it. It may be psychologically addictive, but that's not what I was getting at. That means people can quit smoking at any time they choose, they simply choose not to quit for a number of reasons. The point I was trying to make is that physically, alcohol is much worse for your body.
     
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    It isn't the reason you think, I guarantee you that.

    Pot caused you more grief than it was worth simply because it's illegal. If it was legal to smoke a joint on your back porch, buy it at the local c-store, or grow a patch for your own consumption in your back yard, I'd stipulate you'd be singing a different tune, because you already stated that you enjoyed the effects of it. And I'm glad we've established that you couldn't care less if anyone else uses drugs. Got it.

    It's also your personal choice through your activities and statements to lend legitimacy to bad laws that cost our society many lives and hundreds of millions a year, not to mention the loss of numerous personal liberties. Your choice, right? Even if it affects others' right to choice? Don't forget that you said that you are a responsible adult and your decision to drink is "no one else's business". If other responsible adults choose to use drugs then their decision is "no one else's business" also, right?

    Yes it does matter. You're lending legitimacy to legislation that is promoting erosion of personal liberties. When police dressed like combat soldiers are kicking in people's doors over a few ounces of weed, your support of laws that enable said cops does affect others.

    Oooohhhhh, but just a few sentences ago you said you couldn't care less if others use drugs! Should everything you dislike be outlawed simply because you dislike it? You're either for personal freedoms or you're not.
     
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    First they came for the socialists,
    and I didn't speak out because I wasn't a socialist.

    Then they came for the trade unionists,
    and I didn't speak out because I wasn't a trade unionist.

    Then they came for the Jews,
    and I didn't speak out because I wasn't a Jew.

    Then they came for me,
    and there was no one left to speak for me.


    for those not familiar with the poem
     
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    The same can be said for any other substance... You CAN survive without them, but the side effects of having them removed from your system can be severe. Marijuana does have physical side effects associated with the cessation of ingestion. They may not be as severe as DT is with alcoholics or withdrawal symptoms for heroin but they are still present and they are not psychological in origin, they are directly due to the removal of a chemical that the body has become dependent on.

    Not that I am in any way saying that Marijuana or any other drug should be illegal, I dont believe that anything is accomplished by any of them being illegal. But if you are going to have a discussion, it is important that the correct information be discussed.
     
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    Any physical withdrawal from marijuana would have to be considered negligible when compared to most any addictive substance. By stating otherwise, I suspect you have little first hand knowledge of said substances.
     
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    The only side effect from removing marijuana from your system would be a clean urine test.
     
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    I use to smoke in HS and quit to join the Army my senior year and never had anything close to withdraws or DT.
     
  21. NCFlyfisher

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    The joints and bongs are now dated. Now days folks who indulge use the vapor method:

    [video=youtube;DYvh67p4atg]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DYvh67p4atg[/video]
     

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