I only caught the tail end of this story, It seems 3 men entered a Pizza Hut in Charlotte about closing time, Pulled weapons and ordered the 3 employees into the cooler, 1 of the employees was carring a concealed handgun, Pulled his out and shot and killed 2 of the robbers, 1 of the robbers ran away. Now Pizza Hut says they are going to fire the employee for having a gun on the property. If they fire him, I'll never eat at anything Pizza Hut has or operates. If I was the owner of Pizza Hut I would give him a weeks PAID vacation and promote him to store manager with a pay raise to show my appreciation.
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This is already running in another thread. Pizza Hut hasn't made any statements on the future of the employee yet.
It doesn't take a lack of 2A respect for me not to eat at Pizza [the] Hut. The tomato paste and processed cheese smothered sponges that they sell as "pizza" does a good enough job at doing that.
I think most corporations (and governments), when they get too big to run themselves, defer to their lawyers and insurance companies' suggestions and advice.
Pizza Hut probably doesn't give a damn either way. Pizza Hut's insurance company does. Pizza Hut's lawyers, paid to prevent lawsuits which could possibly arise from a Pizza Hut employee "going crazy" (and using a gun that Pizza Hut authorized him to carry) shooting someone and having their family sue the deep pockets: Pizza Hut, care.
If a guy goes on a shooting rampage the families of the victims generally try and sue everyone with money. A delivery driver isn't going to have jack. A multi-national corporation will.
They err on the side of money and at a sacrifice to safety and security. But, that's the American way. Capitalism first and foremost. (Which could explain the runaway civil litigation in this country... money, money, money)
Making civil complainants liable for all costs associated with a lawsuit (and even criminal penalty for cases where it is proven to be fabricated lies) would reduce the need for "cover your butt" corporate regulations like we see with Pizza Hut and others.
If Pizza Hut got a discounted rate on insurance for each employee that was carrying a gun you know that they would immediately 180 on their current rules.
It is only about money.
There are lots of businesses that do not allow their employees to carry a firearm. If I were caught with a firearm IN MY CAR at work, I would be terminated without question.
If you are going to boycott Pizza Hut, be prepared to boycott Long John Silvers, KFC, Pizza Hut, Taco Bell, A&W Restaurants, and Wing Street Restaurants. They are all owned by the same company.
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I guess I've been boycotting them for a long time, I don't eat any of that crap.:biggrin:
Someone stole DD's thunder.:001_rolleyes:
We are forgetting property rights. Ultimately, Pizza Hut does have the final say here. If it is against their policy (which is probably to prevent law suits and insurance claims) then it is up to them.
Yeah, Chad, but did you know that Pizza Hut is owned by Yum!
A&W, KFC, Taco Bell, Long John Silver
They are a huge corporation.
Sorry; couldn't resist.
You know how we damn firemen are.
This isn't the first instance of this.
Last year a Columbia SC pizza Hut employee shot a robber and resigned as a result of the fact that he would be fired.
In 2009 an Anderson IN Pizza Hut driver and valid Indiana CC Permit holder shot a would-be robber after he put a gun to is head. He was terminated.
In 2008 a Des Moines IA Pizza Hut delivery driver (and valid IA CC Permit holder) was fired for shooting a robber.
And the most famous was the 2004 Carmel IN incident when a Pizza Hut driver (and valid IN CC Permit holder) shot a robber 10 times killing him. Guess who was also fired by Pizza Hut?
This isn't new or unique in regards to Pizza Hut.
I just sprayed coffee all over my laptop. Made my day. Thank you sir, and you owe me a new laptop.Yeah, Chad, but did you know that Pizza Hut is owned by Yum!
A&W, KFC, Taco Bell, Long John Silver
They are a huge corporation.
Sorry; couldn't resist.
You know how we damn firemen are.
Better to be fired than killed. IMO. There are more jobs but I have yet to see another life you can apply for on the planet.
yes, I see. I also see that there are a quite a few others who eiher didn't read earlier posts, or just can't read period.
They all got fired for breaking company policy, not for shooting a robber, but on the same grounds they would have fired you for coming to work in a thong and a pair of flip-flops.
I am not aware of ANY major chain in any form of business that allows employees to carry. The public can come in carrying anytime they want and they're fine with it, but for insurance liability and lawsuits they wont allow an employee.
Is it fair? No. Is it right? No. But, it's the lawyered up world we live in where people can sue a restaurant for anything from selling them too hot of coffee, too fattening a meal, slipping in the milkshake they just spilt on the ground, etc. Do you really expect them to let the guy stay?
Let's face it, putting a hole in someone isn't going to get you a "that's a great job there Dave, take a couple days off while we get your raise lined up". It's going to get you in front of a DA and more than likely a grand jury, a lawsuit from the family for "killing our innocent baby, we'll miss his sweet voice in church choir for ever <sob>" if the state allows it. And, if you're at work and you don't own the place, it's going to get you in the unemployment line.
I am not aware of ANY major chain in any form of business that allows employees to carry. The public can come in carrying anytime they want and they're fine with it, but for insurance liability and lawsuits they wont allow an employee.
Is it fair? No. Is it right? No. But, it's the lawyered up world we live in where people can sue a restaurant for anything from selling them too hot of coffee, too fattening a meal, slipping in the milkshake they just spilt on the ground, etc. Do you really expect them to let the guy stay?
Let's face it, putting a hole in someone isn't going to get you a "that's a great job there Dave, take a couple days off while we get your raise lined up". It's going to get you in front of a DA and more than likely a grand jury, a lawsuit from the family for "killing our innocent baby, we'll miss his sweet voice in church choir for ever <sob>" if the state allows it. And, if you're at work and you don't own the place, it's going to get you in the unemployment line.
So what are the facts here? Anyone heard any real news about whether the guy is fired or not?
You are expecting too much.
Read the thread? C'mon. Every thread here consists of 2/3rds repeated info from previous posts. It is obvious people can't be bothered with that.
If you had read the thread you'd have seen that it is Pizza Hut policy to fire an employee for carrying a weapon.
You'd also know that this isn't the first time (or 2nd time - or 3rd time for that matter) in which Pizza Hut had an employee kill an attacker/robber. In every case the employee was fired or resigned as a result.
So no - we don't know for sure but it is pretty obvious he will be.
The latest news is that the idiot Tony Scheer is calling this "vigilante justice". Maybe we should email him and explain to him the difference between "vigilante justice" and "self defense".
Granted he makes his living defending thugs like these guys - can't get paid if they are dead so it is obvious why he is against this sort of thing.
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