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FBI Citizens' Academy -- My Adventure

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#1 ·
After reading about a CSF member who went through the FBI Citizens' Academy (mainly their experience at the gun range playing with the FBI's toys), I decided to check into it. I did some digging, found a public contact email address for the FBI Charlotte Field Office, and low-and-behold, I'm in the 2012 class. Since most folks here would likely get a kick out of it, I figured I'd share my experience with it here. I'll continue to update it as the class progresses. It's 9 or 10 weeks, once a week for a few hours in the evening.

I hope this can stay on topic and not get carried away with anti-Fed's rants or whatever. That's a different topic.

First things first, the Citizens' Academy is intended to be an FBI outreach program to communities surrounding their field offices. They want to show folks what they do and how they do it in hopes of gaining people's trust, making some relationships in the community (they attest to maintaining contact with previous "graduates" in some form or fashion), and just plain enlightenment about the crimes and criminals they handle. They prefer participants be some sort of business, community, or religious leader so you can spread the word of the FBI in your groups. Here's the official FBI webpage: http://goo.gl/XR1Ns and http://goo.gl/1il4h

There is an invite and application process...it's not just open to anyone off the street. They want to know who you are (obviously) and what you do (professionally and recreationally). They do a basic background check and request a short bio to introduce you to the Agents helping run the show and the other participants. I got invited to apply by simply emailing the Charlotte public contact at Charlotte.public@ic.fbi.gov I believe classes are only once per year, so around January I got the application in the mail and I was notified of selection in early March. The class started a week ago in mid-April. So if you inquire now, you'll likely get a response, but it'll be a while until the next class.

I was straight up about my hobbies, specifically shooting. I thought it might hinder my chances of getting selected, but obviously it didn't.

After being selected, I was briefed on the basics of the class: dress code (business casual), meeting times (6-9:30pm once per week), accessing the building through security, no cell phones allowed in the building, no cameras (except for range day), etc. It wasn't until I showed up for the first class that I saw the full syllabus. Basically each night presents two or three different aspects that the FBI (specifically the Charlotte office) does. A day at the CMPD gun range is included where we'll get to shoot MP5's, M4's, and other tools of the trade. Everything is supposed to be capped with a "graduation" at a fancy restaurant here in town. Afterward, there's an actual alumni association you can join which does annual events including trips to DC to tour FBI HQ. Basically, you're not getting any sort of certification or even real training on anything. It's 100% informational and a unique opportunity to see a good portion of what the FBI does...not to mention, you get to shoot their class III toys!

If anyone has anymore questions about the program, feel free to ask and I'll try to answer them. I'll give updates here about each class evening here. I know I was very curious when I found out about the program and couldn't really find any detail about it--let alone the specific Charlotte class. So hopefully this will help some of you who may have an interest.

Evening #1: Introduction and Facility Tour
Everything started with checking in at the guard booth and getting a visitor's badge that let's everyone know in big letters that I need to be escorted everywhere around the premises...yes, even to the bathroom (they stand outside, don't worry). Walking into the FBI building (down near Microsoft on Arrowood Rd.), you're overwhelmed by the marble floors and fancy wood-paneled walls (maybe mahogany?). Dare I say "overboard" when it comes to the fancy-ness of the building. The building itself is huge and definitely has the feeling of being very secure and not cheap construction. Some of you may have been in a Federal building before and this wouldn't be new to you, but this was my first time really and it was impressive. Nevermind the wondering about how much the place cost! The Special Agent in Charge welcomed us with a quick speech and did elude to the fact that is a very nice facility and likely the last of its kind for a long time given the current Federal budget issues. Suffice to say, it doesn't look like much was spared when designing and furnishing this place. We could go on all day about the merits of such grandeur, but I don't want to.

The class is about 25 people or so made up of all sorts of walks of life: liberal to conservative, black ,white, hispanic, muslim, christian, PhD's to shovel pushers, and everything else under the sun. It is funny how most seem to be to one side of the spectrum with few at or near the middle. I'd like to think of myself as near the middle. There's definitely the liberally-mindsetted folks and there are just as many right wing borderline nutjobs...I'm talking very likely to have a tinfoil hat folded up in their pocket! Everyone is there by selection though, some after two or three times of "applying." Why do I call some of the folks nutjobs (conspiracy theorists may be a better word)? Stopping the Special Agent in Charge of all North Carolina FBI ops in the middle of his speech and asking him whether or not "do ya'll use drones around here to monitor us?" I think qualifies you (or at least pre-qualifies you for admittance) to be in that category. For the most part though everyone is very interested to listen and see what these folks do.

The highlight of the first night was the tour of some of the building. We started off by seeing the photo lab. We walked in and you see a very large closet (more of a room than a closet) filled to the brim with all sorts of camera lenses and cameras...mainly all still cameras. By their own admission, they do very little video work. I'm talking easily $100's of thousands in lenses...maybe $1 million or more. I was floored! In the middle of the room were two DSLR's with GINORMOUS lenses attached. I want to say one was an 800mm lens? It was about 3 or 4 feet long and pushing 12-18" in diameter at the end. They had some declassified photos on the wall to check out...some sort of graphic of crime scenes (read: dead people). The one guy that runs the lab seems to have a pretty cool job in that he gets to tag along with pretty much all aspects of the FBI...intelligence ops, investigations, crime scenes, SWAT, etc.

Next we checked out their command and control rooms (plural!). These are best described as CTU sets! I expected to see Jack Bauer himself sitting somewhere! One of the rooms was empty and not in use. It's only for emergencies or special events (think: DNC). The other was their 24 hour staffed room. tons of computers in each room, a little command office, and a giant wall of TV's and computer screens. The staffed room had the major news networks playing as well as tens maybe a hundred or more security camera screens (local site security). I asked the question of whether they were actually gathering intel from the news channels and the supervisor said "yes--think about it. The news networks work faster than we could imagine with people wanting to be the first to report. We keep the channels on not so much to gather intel, but to make sure we at least know what's going on...more of a double-check." I did think it was funny though to see Fox News cold shouldered when he said "we monitor all the big news agencies: CNN, HLN, MSNBC, and....ummmm...Fox national." But when I looked at the wall, there were two screens playing CNN and the others were HLN and MSNBC! Not that it means a darn thing really...but there was that snubbing of Fox at the Federal level, right in front of me!

The tour ended with the best part: the gun vault! we walked into the bank vault-looking room and were greeted with a wall of class III toys: MP5's chambered in 10mm, M4's, Remington 870s cut down to 13" barrels with night sights, Thompson sub-machine guns, and a slew of handguns laid out to observe. The Agent giving the presentation is the firearm instructor and was definitely a "gun guy." I could tell he was into guns and wasn't just a LEO who had to deal with them as tools of the trade as some (actually a lot) of LEO's appear to be to me. When asked about the Tommy Guns he said they were heritage guns formerly used by the FBI but no longer in service. They still worked, but they use them only for demo's. Since the FBI is not allowed to sell their firearms or even give them to museums, the only thing they can do is cut them in half and melt them down if they get rid of them...and it would be a crying shame to see that happen to those guns (his words). Someone asked how much they're worth and the Agent replied with "a privately owned version may get $80k....these, since the FBI used them and put that history into them, maybe $100-$200k." Everyone's jaw just sort of dropped at that point. Not to brag but I already knew that and was more interested in fondling the M4 and MP5! I didn't get a chance to talk to the guy since the "non-gun folks" were busy asking all sorts of questions that a typical newb to guns would ask. I look forward to talking to him in the future and maybe even picking up some pointers.

...to be continued...
 
#2 · (Edited)
Cool. Thanks for sharing.

Would be interested if you hear, if they do any cyber crimes investigation there or if that is centralized.
 
#3 ·
Cool. Thanks for sharing.

Would be interested if you hear, if they do any cyber crimes investigation there or if that is centralized.
They do all aspects of the FBI here in Charlotte...just on a prioritized level. We do get a cyber crime class...not sure when. But as I understand, yes, they do it here...at least those investigations that have something to do with North Carolina.
 
#10 ·
This sounds pretty cool, I'll be following the thread as well.

Although I have to admit, something about "citizens academy" reminded me of Gomer Pyle screaming that at Barney Fife.
 
#13 · (Edited)
One thing I forgot to mention here is that I'm going by memory of the classes...not taking notes. I'm very likely not capturing everything here. If any of these topics interest you, I encourage you to apply for the academy.


Evening #2: White Collar Crimes and Public Corruption, Civil Rights Crimes and Human Trafficking, and FBI Intelligence
The building has a little "FBI store" that we got to raid...with money, of course. I snagged a FBI Citizens Academy polo and a national and regional FBI challenge coin. Nerdy, but I don't care!

Walking into the conference room where the class is held, we all got fancy leather portfolios with the FBI logo embossed on it as a gift and to put our handouts in. Nice little touch. I didn't expect to get anything other than free bullets out of this (sent downrange in full auto, of course!).

The second evening's presentations started off with white collar crimes and public corruption. This was interesting in the sense that we got to really see how deep or low-level the FBI will fly...all the way down to local stuff, especially when it comes to public corruption. I asked where exactly is their "floor" and why are they chasing crimes to seemingly non-federal levels or at least outside of their "jurisdiction." A big reason for public corruption was to keep the investigations unbiased. The example was given for a local mayor who may very well have been born and bred in his town and knows everyone there. If a local investigative force were to handle the case, the chance of corruption is very high simply from the good 'ol boy aspect (they all know each other). One thing they pointed out was that white collar crime and public corruption are higher on their priority list than violent crimes and gangs which usually takes people's breath away. The reason they gave for this is think of how massive the effects of public corruption are; they can/do effect an entire community at the minimum, but typically an entire region and many many more people than a smaller (geographically-speaking) crime like gangs. Plus, if we lose public trust in our government, the potential for all hell to break loose is very high. Government corruption must be dealt with effectively was the message. Also, with white collar crimes (i.e. bank fraud, trading fraud, etc.), you've got the potential to collapse the entire US market (look at things today). While gangs and violent crime are very important to those directly involved, they don't necessarily jeopardize our country or regions. A delicate line they have to walk with these prioritizations, but I can understand.

A point they kept harping on is how under-staffed they are. They have something on the order of 9 agents total to work on public corruption...for all of NC. Because of this, they can't get to all the cases so they must pick and choose the ones that will make the most impact. I personally hate that this pill must be swallowed and that the bad guys are allowed to go unchecked at the end of the day (relatively speaking).

Onto civil rights, I was thinking this was going to be my least favorite subject. Turns out, it was very interesting likely because the agent who presented was darn-near superb both on his subject and his speaking ability. He dove straight in after a brief warning that it is a very touchy subject and to not let your feelings get hurt by the topics. Of course the Trayvon Martin case came up and the topic bounced around awkwardly for a little bit. I did take note that the agent slipped up (intentionally or not, I don't know) and called it the "Trayvon Martin murder." I fought the urge to correct him! It was very eye-opening to learn about the US's lack of *federal* hate crime laws prior to 2009 (I think that's the year) when two hate crime cases finally sparked some action. the one where the black guy was dragged behind a truck and killed in Texas back in the 90's and the other was a gay kid that was beaten so badly he died. Previously, for it to be a *federal* (not local or state) case, it had to be a hate-motivated crime that prevented someone form doing a Constitutionally-protected right (i.e. voting). If, in the case of the black guy, they were killed just walking down the street, the Fed's had no case. So now the federal law allows for prosecution of crimes that are motivated by hate of sex, race, age, sexual preference, or disability (I might be forgetting one there). The trick is proving that the crime was motivated by one of those hates/discriminations.

The human trafficking was really sickening to learn about. I don't live under a rock, but I really had no clue about some of the horrors that go on right under our noses. Trafficking is broken into two categories: labor and sex...both are obvious as to what they are. Right here in the good 'ol US of A it goes on. The Agent gave an example of a brothel that was busted here in Charlotte a couple years ago. When they raided, the girls went running out the back but stopped only a block away. When asked why they stopped, they said because they had no idea where they were and had no idea where to go. All they knew is that they were likely in Atlanta a couple weeks ago but that's it.

An interesting point was raised about Freedom of Speech. The Agent said there is a book "out there" online that actually teaches how to traffic people. They can't do anything about it because it just simply "talks" about it but doesn't "do" anything. That right there makes me sick.

The trafficking stuff really hit home because I thought of my kids. If someone even thought of harming them, especially in such a grotesque way as trafficking them in sex or even labor...I'll leave the rest of that statement off...

The last presentation was intelligence. I thought this was going to be the most interesting but it turned out to be sort of dry. They showed more of the format of how they report intel and how they share it than how it's actually gathered. I was hoping to see some James Bond gadgets! I actually made a comment similar to that during a Q&A and they basically said that there's no way they could show us their techniques or even the toys. I won't call it boring, but it was definitely my least favorite.

The spice of the night though was the conspiracy theorist. He struck again this time with another push about whether or not drones were being flown over Charlotte (because he read it online somewhere!). But to trump that one, he stopped an Agent in the middle of his presentation wanting to know if the documents he gets from the Freedom of Information Act requests he makes are actually true..."because you wouldn't believe some of the stuff I've seen about FEMA!" Forehead slap right about now. Mind you, this was after no less than 30 other random questions throughout the night...most of which were prefaced or laced with "I read online somewhere..." or "I saw a report that said..." I feel sorta bad for the guy because I can see him being asked to tone it down or don't come back since it makes the presentations drag on longer than planned. He's definitely not representative of the whole crowd...just worth reporting on!

Since we can't have cameras or phones, I've got no pics to post...just a bunch of ramble from my memory. Sorry if it gets dry. I figure someone might want to read it to know what it's all about.

...to be continued (again!)...
 
#14 ·
This sounds pretty cool, I'll be following the thread as well....
There is a guy fresh out of the Corps...infantry Capt. He's there "exploring his options" and seeing what they do. Might be a good reason to get you in...not that it's hard to get accepted. But every little thing helps set you above the others.

The conspiracy nut said he was rejected 2 times before getting in. I bet they're regretting that now!

I'll also add to all these stories, the professionalism you may hear about the FBI is 100% true. Everyone is professionally dressed and mannered. I went in thinking that Agents are ex-SEAL's or something stupid like that but they're not. They're smart folks who can also run, jump, and shoot pretty well. All my talking about how over-the-top the building is just goes along with the show of professionalism.
 
#15 ·
This sounds pretty cool, I'll be following the thread as well.

Although I have to admit, something about "citizens academy" reminded me of Gomer Pyle screaming that at Barney Fife.
Gomer hollered "citizen's a-RAY-est citizen's a-RAY-est! "

I've been thru and enjoyed a local PD's version of citizen's police academy...I'd bet the feds version is a ton better and more interesting.
 
#16 ·
This does sound cool. Thanks for sharing and I will be following along as well. It's just a darn shame though that every CSC member from here on out is going to have to be very careful with what they say now that we have an FBI informant amongst us.
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#17 ·
Forgot to add an important piece thats likely of interest here. During the intel presentation, someone asked about privacy and when do they go too far (I'm paraphrasing badly here). The Agents took the question like champs and emphasized their strict adherance to a rule book that they've got nearby at all times. They went on to say that they take pride in their responsibility that they hold...sort of like being the front line of where those sorts of invasions of privacies could occur. They're always checking to make sure they don't cross the line.

I was impressed and convinced that, at least at the level of the lowly field agents, our liberties are not forgotten.
 
#18 ·
This does sound cool. Thanks for sharing and I will be following along as well. It's just a darn shame though that every CSC member from here on out is going to have to be very careful with what they say now that we have an FBI informant amongst us.
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Your name has been recorded in my fancy FBI logo folder. Don't you know that Charlotte is famous for mysterious rogue helicopters?
 
#19 ·
They do all aspects of the FBI here in Charlotte...just on a prioritized level. We do get a cyber crime class...not sure when. But as I understand, yes, they do it here...at least those investigations that have something to do with North Carolina.
We go to church with an FBI agent who does the cybercrimes stings in the chatrooms on pedophiles. You would never know she works for the FBI if she hadn't grown up with my wife.
 
#24 ·
Tonight's topics: polygraph program, domestic terrorism/joint terrorism task force, and counterintelligence and economic espionage. Should be interesting especially if we can keep the conspiracy nut in check to let the Agents get throug their presentations.
 
#25 ·
As if you're all sitting on the edge of your seat waiting...sorry for the delay. Last week's session was as follows:

Week #3: FBI Polygraph Program, Domestic Terrorism, and Counter-Espionage
We started off with the FBI's polygraph (aka: lie detector) program. I came into the presentation with an admitted sort of doubt about "lie detectors" thinking they weren't far from hypnosis and other voodoo jazz (sorry if you're into voodoo or jazz...it's just a saying). Boy was I wrong. The Agent was compressed from a 2-hour time slot down into 1-hour, so he had to fly through the introductory part in order to get to the meat and potatoes: an actual demonstration of a polygraph examination. The precursor material wasn't drab either...especially since he kept our resident "conspiracy theorist" at bay! We were taught that as with other relatively unregulated industries out there, polygraph examination has a lot of phonies and/or folks who take the "2 day weekend course at a community college" and claim to be an examiner. Apparently there is a TON of science, experience, and knowledge that go into being a successful examiner. The scary thing is that the Agent hinted to the notion that some examiners who are perceived as "official" (i.e. other smaller agencies or companies) have been known to have some of these lesser-experienced examiners who are responsible for the end result: "yes" or "no" about whether or not they're lying. The FBI requires strict and detailed certification and training for its examiners. They also require the examiner's results to be sent to another FBI reviewer to review the exam results; someone who has no personal involvement or knowledge, who just simply interprets the polygraph data (the squiggles you're probably thinking of from seeing tests in TV/movies).

Some interesting facts about polygraph exams (at least from the FBI perspective):
  • Exams are 100% voluntary. If a person was forced to take one (physically or mentally), they'd never get accurate results since strict body control is required (breathing, attention, etc.) of the participant.
  • Exams are done in a as-plain-as-possible room...no windows, no posters, no sounds. Just the examiner, the machine, and the examinee. Utmost concentration and calmness is required.
  • The Agent emphasized that they use the polygraph exam strongly to help clear people's names. You might think it's always a sort of guilty until proven innocent scenario...the FBI Agent interrogating the mob leader or something classic. More often than not though, it can be the FBI examining a parent in a missing child case to give the parent something to stand on when they say "it wasn't me" (an accusation which seems to always rear its ugly head in all of those cases). They also use it to weed out suspects in order to not waste resources investigating a particular person (or, conversely, to increase resources on someone). Given the FBI's limited resources, they have to play their cards very specifically and efficiently in order to be successful.
  • Exams are not admissible in court, but more often than not, the pressure a guilty person feels while being examined leads to a confession or at least extra commentary that can be used. No one other than the examiner and the examinee (and interpreter if needed) are allowed in the room for purposes of maintaining complete concentration and limited distraction. The Agent always disarms and dis-badges for a couple reasons: to not intimidate or distract most folks, but also because of the aforementioned seclusion and the likelihood of the examinee being a very violent and dangerous person. You don't want a gun within an arm's reach of that sort of person. Remember, it's voluntary so there are no handcuffs or restraints.
  • All FBI Agents are required to undergo random polygraphs...some more than others depending on their job. All new FBI applicants must take one too. In fact, the Charlotte office screens all new FBI applicants for all of NC.
  • The FBI has an approximately 95% accuracy rate for polygraphs--one of the highest rates in the world. The particular Agent giving our presentation was somewhere in the 98% range. Arguably one of the best in the world.
  • All polygraph questions are yes or no questions. You absolutely cannot ask a question that requires a long drawn out or detailed answer other than yes or no and get any sort of useful result. The trick is asking the correct specific yes or no question that triggers responses that indicate a lie or truth.
  • The FBI is 100% digital in its polygraphs. Everything is run through a laptop that has high security biometric lock devices so the Agent is the only one with access. It all displays and reads just like the old fashioned paper versions (a little needle scratching out a pattern on a scrolling sheet), it's just all digital now and very portable.
The Agent went over the topic of defeating a polygraph exam. He said there are certainly ways that are taught to certain folks who may need to defeat one (terrorists, spies, etc.), but the FBI extensively trains its examiners on the latest known techniques (usually learned through interrogating folks who try to use them). He said most of the "tricks' are so obvious that it's not even funny and the exam will end immediately when he sees it. They'll either restart the exam over and over or just cancel it if the person can't do it right. Things like distracting yourself, doing odd breathing patterns, odd and/or controlled speech patterns, etc.

The polygraph machine monitors 4 biometric aspects: breathing, sweat, heart rate, and movement (you sit on a pad that detects the slightest movement) to indicate fidgeting or other odd behavior. Movement doesn't get analyzed for "lying" or not, but it tells the examiner if the examinee is moving too much and skewing the other readings.

The Agent explained how the bio measures will tell-tale a lie. He said think of your wildest sexual fantasy...all the sensations you remember (or fantasize about) and what it triggers inside you. Now think of what happens if someone asks about it or brings it up. Your brain pulls it front and center for at least a split second, no matter how concentrated you are. Memories are accessed and your body reacts. Now think of this in terms of a bank robber. If they actually did the crime, they'll have a memory of doing it: gearing up, kicking open the door, pointing a gun at people, maybe even shooting it, the smells, the screams, the rush they get. There's a memory in the guilty person's head. The Agent's job is to ask the right yes or no question that triggers that memory, and then WHAM, the machine will show it off when their body starts reacting to it. This is, in a sense, how the polygraph works and where the skill of a good examiner comes largely into play--being able to ask those questions and trigger biometric responses. The other trick is not asking as bluntly as "are you a terrorist?" Most true terrorists believe so strongly in what they're doing that they do not consider themselves a terrorist. Same thing with a rapist or child assaulter. What they're doing is not viewed as wrong in their messed up heads, so the Agent has to ask questions that trigger memories of their wrong doings (if any).

It finally came time to show an actual exam and one person was chosen. A guy was hooked up to the machine and sat in front of the class facing away (to be as non-distracted as possible). The read-out was displayed on a projection screen for us to see...just like what you see on TV/movies. Four lines of data, some squiggling pretty good, others just barely moving. The Agent asked the guy to write a large number on a sheet of paper...nothing secretive, just clear and obvious. He wrote a large "5" and it was placed in front of him to stare at. Once the exam began, the Agent simply asked "did you write a 1?" The guy would answer "no" to each and every question, right on through the number 5, to simulate the "lie." Watching the read-out, his bio displays were a little erratic, but started settling down with each question. When he got to "did you write a number 5?" and the guy answered "no," everything jumped; some items more than others, but there was a noticeable uptick in all readings. They finished the exam and the Agent reviewed the results. He said it may look like a small response, but it was a simple lie...nothing to it. Now imagine a bank robbery or something much more graphic and sensory. The jumps are usually blatantly obvious. So there it was, right in front of me...a lie detector test working.

...to be continued...
 
#26 · (Edited)
...Week #3 continued...

Next was the domestic terrorism and joint terrorism task force programs. Touchy touchy subject...and the Agent acknowledged that. This is basically the part of the FBI that folks might say "labels some specific groups of US citizens as terrorists." Things like militia extremists, KKK and Black Panther extremists, abortion clinic protester (pro and against) extremists, etc. The key word that I picked up on here is "extremists" and it was used to describe each group of domestic terrorist. The Agent made an effort to point out that much of what these "domestic terrorists" do and stand for is 100% legal and protected by one right or another. For instance, militias were highly scrutinized by the class...questioned is a better term. The Agent acknowledged that it is perfectly fine to start, run, and be in a militia. It's fine for a militia to organize and even "train" in a para-military fashion. He eluded to the notion that the vast majority of militias (in the US, of course) are perfectly legal and are not considered domestic terrorists. The few that do get the honor of being deemed a domestic terrorist possess specific qualities, some qualities that on their own are not necessarily illegal, but when grouped with one or two illegal activities, kick things into domestic terrorist mode. For instance, a big catch for militias is the possession of "illegal stockpiles of weapons and ammunition" (using the Agent's words here). What he meant (but did not clarify sufficiently to my dismay) was the stockpile of illegal weapons. Class III weapons without the proper paperwork. That's usually the FBI's "in" to bring them down. Mix those weapons with anti-government speech and some other individually harmless but grouped together bad traits, and you've apparently got a domestic terrorist.

Now, of course I went into this presentation with a small chip on my shoulder...being a "gun guy" and all. I don't take lightly to government documents being released that call folks terrorists who possess certain traits...some of which I possess! I would like to consider myself as far form a "terrorist" as possible. So to have someone point the guilty stick at me, I don't like that (to say the least). So I sat there digesting this presentation as the Agent fed it (both verbally and a PowerPoint presentation). I paid particular attention to the militia part as I really don't even come close to fitting into the KKK or Black Panthers...and while I have convictions about abortion, I don't see myself ever protesting at a clinic. I'm not in a militia, but I certainly possess, by the FBI's standards presented to us, some traits that militia folks also have. The big difference is that I don't have any illegal weapons and my will to overthrow the US government is relatively subsided for now (that's supposed to be funny right there <--- ). Since this program, the Citizens' Academy, is supposed to be a community outreach, I was really hoping they'd try to calm the masses about calling US citizens terrorists. I hate to say that I think they failed. While a good number of the folks in the class are obviously left-leaning and more than likely anti-gun, there are a good number of us who seem to be on the other side of the equation...arguably closer to the threshold of being a militia domestic terrorist (again, by the FBI's standards). You'd think they'd want to take the opportunity to put us at ease and take the good message back to our communities (i.e. this forum) and try to spread the word that despite what the media and other radicals would like to have us believe, the FBI and the US government don't think everyone who owns a gun and believes in liberty is a terrorist. Now, let me interject here and say that I could read between the lines of the presentation and I do honestly believe that last part: that they don't think we're all terrorists. I see that you have to do illegal things to be considered illegal (again, typically weapons laws). Add to those illegal things some actions/beliefs that are considered relatively radical (marching on DC and overthrowing the government), I can see how someone could be called a terrorist. I don't want to debate the merits or flaws of that here, but as it was presented to us and as it exists today, I can see reason behind the logic. The problem is that they are not packaging it up and presenting it in a more easily stomached fashion.

I regret that I did not get a chance to voice this concern during the presentation. Other folks kept the Agent plenty busy with questions...some stupid, and others not so much. Hopefully I'll get an opportunity later, not that I expect an entire federal entity to change on one man's observation.

To round out the presentation and the second topic of the night, the Joint Terrorism Task Force (JTTF) was presented. The biggest piece I took away from this is what exactly that long name means. It sounds cool and invokes images of Jack Bauer. But what it really means is the cooperation between different entities to investigate and prevent terrorism of any kind: domestic or foreign. Again, given the FBI's limited resources, they must pool together with other agencies, namely state and local authorities to deal with bigger problems like terrorism. As we learned from 9/11, the huge government we have also needs to play nice with itself, meaning separate agencies must share data and help one another if problems are going to get solved without the loss of American life (again).

...to be continued...