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G42 or beef up shield?

1.8K views 28 replies 12 participants last post by  hardluk1  
#1 ·
Really digging the new G42 think it would be a nice addition. Even though it's a .380.... Could make a nice rotation in my EDC. Plus I would really love to own a glock.
But also thinking of beefing up my shield.
Apex trigger - cerkote slide- truglo tfo's
I really would love to have a nice pistol with very little recoil that isn't a .22 and from what I have heard, the G42 seems to fit the bill.
 
#2 ·
I handled one the other day and liked it. I am going to hold off for a while and see if they release a 9mm version. Maybe a G43? or the G40 that never materialized?

I don't get caught up in the .380 sucks mentality, I am more in the "why bother?" camp. Its so close in size to a 9mm that I don't get why it was even produced.
 
#4 ·
None of the upgrades you are contemplating will make your Shield shoot any lighter or more like a G42 .380 acp.

Without regard to the cerekoting (which may screw your chance of ever getting any resale value back out of your pistol), I do believe the Apex trigger upgrade and the Truglos will make it handle better and make it more function. But, even that may be a moot point to certain people and not worth what you spent to upgrade.

Steven Stills said it best back in 1970 and even wrote a song about, "Love The One Your With". And if you can't, sell the Shield and get the G42. It is a nice little pistol and I can certainly see why anyone might be jonesing for one.
 
#6 ·
I handled one the other day and liked it. I am going to hold off for a while and see if they release a 9mm version. Maybe a G43? or the G40 that never materialized?

I don't get caught up in the .380 sucks mentality, I am more in the "why bother?" camp. Its so close in size to a 9mm that I don't get why it was even produced.
They tried producing it in 9mm but had issyes with durability and trouble getting it to be reliable with a variety of ammo. Thats 2nd hand info I got from a guy who spoke to one of the factory reps at SHOT.
 
#7 ·
None of the upgrades you are contemplating will make your Shield shoot any lighter or more like a G42 .380 acp.

Without regard to the cerekoting (which may screw your chance of ever getting any resale value back out of your pistol), I do believe the Apex trigger upgrade and the Truglos will make it handle better and make it more function. But, even that may be a moot point to certain people and not worth what you spent to upgrade.

Steven Stills said it best back in 1970 and even wrote a song about, "Love The One Your With". And if you can't, sell the Shield and get the G42. It is a nice little pistol and I can certainly see why anyone might be jonesing for one.
I know that I can't make the recoil lighter on my shield...but what I am getting at is...Im keeping my shield, so Cerakoting and the apex and TFO's are gonna be for me only.....I absolutely love it. but I would like to have something that I can rotate in that is of a different caliber and something that the wife can shoot as well as me.

The G42 just intrigues me. not enough to sale my shield because this will be my primary carry.

Just can't decide if I should just focus on the one gun I have
 
#8 ·
Focus on the one gun you have has always been my philosophy. Sounds like your wife may be a little recoil sensitive? If so the best solution again is some good quality instruction which would help her with grip, stance, and balance. These things all help with recoil management and would make a huge difference.
 
#9 ·
I also had considered giving up my Shield for a G42. I have several Glocks and although I really like them, I am really impressed with the Shield. The more I shoot it and carry it, the more I like it. I say keep the Shield and find a way to fund the G42 if you really feel you have to have the G42.
 
#12 ·
Woah, I'm not getting rid of my shield. I'm just wanting to figure it it would be worth picking one up to put in my rotation for a carry pistol or just focus on making the shield.
Although I'm thinking just getting the sear for the shield and some tfo's and then saving some money and figure if I should go for the g42 or maybe a more full size glock.....
 
#13 ·
I say spend the money on some quality training and ammo rather than more mods or more guns. You have a good piece of hardware already as is so now focus on upgrading your software. Shooting is just like Golf in that you can't buy enough gear to make up for lack of skill.
Well said.
 
#14 ·
gonna just train and spend money on ammo as this point.... maybe later this year after some significant shooting and training (Friend of mine is going to be starting up some tactical classes and traning classes that he is going to let me be a part of) I'll look at buying my next pistol.
 
#15 ·
The money you spend on "Significant Training and Shooting" would be better saved and put toward real training with a qualified instructor. Don't feel the need to burn up money and time practicing in preparation for training since you're most likely gonna do nothing but ingrain incorrect muscle memory. Its like the people who spend tons of money on new golf clubs and time at the driving range rather than lessons from a qualified instructor. By the time they get some good training they've built in so much bad muscle memory that it makes it tough to overcome.
 
#16 ·
Woah, I'm not getting rid of my shield. I'm just wanting to figure it it would be worth picking one up to put in my rotation for a carry pistol or just focus on making the shield.
Although I'm thinking just getting the sear for the shield and some tfo's and then saving some money and figure if I should go for the g42 or maybe a more full size glock.....
Oh, I know. I didn't mean it that way. On the other hand, though, I did hold the new Glock today at work and it felt really good. Just wish it was 9mm D:

It also has a really good price, at Academy at least. Shameless plug ;bd
 
#17 ·
If you want a soft shooting handgun by your self a full sized 9mm like a glock 17 or 5.25" m&p 9 and then with a few extra mags you can start shooting in some local matchs. Beside a larger pistol also makes a better house gun or travel gun. Or wait for the r51 to get out as the deisgn make it a softer shooter and a size up from the shield and around 3 or 4 oz heavier.
 
#18 ·
If you want a soft shooting handgun by your self a full sized 9mm like a glock 17 or 5.25" m&p 9 and then with a few extra mags you can start shooting in some local matchs. Beside a larger pistol also makes a better house gun or travel gun. Or wait for the r51 to get out as the deisgn make it a softer shooter and a size up from the shield and around 3 or 4 oz heavier.
Said it before and will say it again, best solution to have a softer shooting handgun is quality instruction and training where you can learn a proper grip, stance, and balance. That's why you can have little lady shooters on the pro circuit that can run rings around pretty much all of us. Trust me it ain't simply because they have a soft shooting gun. If you're fundamentals suck then you'll still have problems with even the softest shooting pistols on the market.
 
#19 ·
So, we all own guns cuz we want to. So if you like the G42, get one!
As far as "nice pistol with little recoil" grab a 1911 in 9mm or a Sig P226 in 9mm (or any other metal-framed 9mm). Even a full size (or 5" pro) M&P in 9mm is a pretty light recoil affair.
I donno about your Shield, but my shield doesn't need $100 in parts. It's trigger is pretty sweet right out of the box. The other add-ons you describe might be fun at some point, but since my shield is in my pants most of the time, I don't care if it's a little worn looking.
By the way, finding .380 is no simple task (still) - so you may want to factor that in.

Hope that helps.
 
#23 ·
I want a glock :) call it a status symbol if you want, but something about the 17 I like. I have not shot the M&P9 but I like to kind of diversify in my gun collection if I can. Not to say I'd never own an M&P 9.

I don't want to stick with just one company over another.
No prob. I was curious because I know different people have different philosophies when it comes diversification as it relates to muscle memory. Most would agree that optimal proficiency is harder to achieve when one switches between various platforms. That's why you find a lot of people who pick one and settle on it for defense roles then diversify for everything else such as target shooting, plinking, etc. I went through a phase of buying all sorts of guns which struck my fancy at the time, but noticed my proficiency increased 10 fold once I settled on something allowing my muscle memory to develop. There's some primo shooters out there that can pick up any firearm and be proficient with it but I'm not one of those. In the end do what works for you since that's all that matters.
 
#24 ·
No prob. I was curious because I know different people have different philosophies when it comes diversification as it relates to muscle memory. Most would agree that optimal proficiency is harder to achieve when one switches between various platforms. That's why you find a lot of people who pick one and settle on it for defense roles then diversify for everything else such as target shooting, plinking, etc. I went through a phase of buying all sorts of guns which struck my fancy at the time, but noticed my proficiency increased 10 fold once I settled on something allowing my muscle memory to develop. There's some primo shooters out there that can pick up any firearm and be proficient with it but I'm not one of those. In the end do what works for you since that's all that matters.
Yeah and too, I think my curiosity is getting the best of me. What if I like Glocks better than the M&P line?...what if I really love CZ's more?...I guess Ill never know till i try them out. Although the G17 I shot felt great and I loved it. there was just something about it.

My ultimate goal is just to become proficient and accurate enough to be able to protect the life and my family and I as well as have some fun too.
 
#26 · (Edited)
wahoo95 Nope don't believe it. Some people ladys or men are simply tougher physicaly and mentaly than others to start with. That is the type person can take it to a different level all on there on. Some soft people can be trained to shoot small heavier recoiling pistol well or to OK level but don't assume any one can be a solid functioning small gun shooter . may never happen. I shoot with a guy that's long time nra instructor, long term match shooter and a hell of a shooter in general but don't bother handing him a cm9 or 40 or 45. He flat does not feel comfortable with them.

I have never meet a handgun I don't enjoy but would never make a quality match type shooter. Don't have that fast twitch needed . But recoil is controllable for me.

One of my hunting buddies wifes is around 5-6and 125lb. Skinny looking but rock hard lady. On a break during some hog hunting we all piled up in one spot for a brake. Must have been 15 of use. I had a 45/70 loads with some 2100fps speer 350gr loads. A couple of guys that I new as quick to shot free hand and hit there target at distances that are not easy to do, both ex-vets asked if they could fire a couple rounds. Sure they could. One shot each and they wanted none of it any more. My buddys wife speaks up and say how about me. I handed it to her fully loaded and she acts like a master rifleman with it firing, jacking in a new round and firing again and again. She cut one of the few trees down on a clear cut about 75 yards away. Then says to the guys, That's how you do it boys !! her hog gun is a Blackhawk 5 1/2" 44mag and she could run it better than most men. No training . Just pick it up ,liked it and shot it well.

Plus may match loads these world class shooters use are far from pushing the load charts max loads .