Laws do need to be changed,,,If people were allowed to legally carry weapons in the theater someone may have been able to stop him after the first couple of shots. You dont see mass shootings were people are allowed to carry weapons.

There should be no compromise,,,,,,,To compromise is to believe that guns are the problem. More people were killed that day by cars. Do we need to limit cars to run only 35 mph?

 

Here's a start : Concentrate on the person, not the tool.

Deny possesion on Psychological or emotional issues like
Violence (domestic or a history)
Schizophrenia
etc.

When denied, further investigation is warranted. That still leaves all other illegal actions on the table. The outcome is not a ban on the tool.

-R

 

Laws do need to be changed,,,If people were allowed to legally carry weapons in the theater someone may have been able to stop him after the first couple of shots. You dont see mass shootings were people are allowed to carry weapons.

There should be no compromise,,,,,,,To compromise is to believe that guns are the problem. More people were killed that day by cars. Do we need to limit cars to run only 35 mph?

I agree there should be no compromise regarding the weapon owned, but what about becoming a licensed gun owner, just like a licensed driver?

 

Because it is our right, given by GOD, to own a firearm, as articulated in the 2nd amendment. There is no guaranteed right to drive a car, or receive health insurance (but that's a different topic for another day).

 

I agree there should be no compromise regarding the weapon owned, but what about becoming a licensed gun owner, just like a licensed driver?

Sounds like a great first step if the ultimate goal is gun confiscation.

Sure would have made England's control of the colonies much easier if they knew exactly who owned those pesky firearms.

 

What would that do besides cause more paperwork and more money to the proposed licenee?

 

The big thing with the license is I think it would be too easy to deny anyone that big brother wants too.It also opens up other license/requirements like to buy ammo,certain guns ect.I think we have enough laws on the books,enforce them.

 

Under the Communists, the Romanian government licensed typewriters.

http://news.google.com/newspapers?n...spapers?nid=1350&dat=19630320&id=VJBOAAAAIBAJ&sjid=MwEEAAAAIBAJ&pg=7120,4275506

 

Under no circumstances would I go for such an idea. I am too paranoid to take any test and also too poor to afford any additional fees but I am an American and it is my right to own firearms so why would I give up what I already have. More guns is the answer, when everybody is armed the psycho's will get their just due.

 

I can't honestly think of one single law that would actually decrease gun violence.

The only thing I can think of is supporting laws that increase minimum sentences for any kind of gun violence. The bigger problem is that as a society our judicial system keeps on letting these bad guys off over and over, they don't fear getting caught because they know they will get a deal. Our prison system has become a way of life for these thugs. We need to get air conditioning, TV, Basketball courts and all those other cushions out of prisons for violent offenders. Make those prisoners work to grow a garden for their food, pretty much make it its own island. The only thing they should have is an education system where prisoners can learn a trade and be benefit into society once they are released. Heck I would even favor laws to reward employers who hire there newly educated thugs. BUT no second chances you screw up again its LIFE in the island, NO QUESTIONS!

I would gladly pay more taxes to support a system like this to keep thugs off the streets and deter would be thugs.

 

+1 to Drypowder, Daisy Duster, and other members of similar opinion. Any student of World History, if it still taught in schools today, would understand that registration of gun owners and therefore firearms/ammunition makes confiscation a piece of cake. The Second Amendment says nothing about hunting or sport shooting and makes no distinction between handguns and shoulder weapons. That the Second Amendment was placed into a Bill of Rights after the First Amendment says something about the importance given to it by the Founding Fathers. It guarantees all the other amendments and gives wannabe tyrants pause for concern. Sure you can trust your government, just ask an Indian. End of rant by a retired federal agent/field firearms instruction and a student of history who hopes we will not doomed to repeat it.

 

What if there was a registration of gun owners, much like a driver's license? This would be a federally issued identification covering all US states and territories, just like my FAA issued Private Pilot License. Once I have a level of training, have passed the background check, paid the fees involved, I then become a registered gun owner and in so being have the right to purchase and own any type of gun and magazines I want including, NFA items without the additional paperwork and fees. I would not have to fill out the 4473 at the gun store and I could then also carry my firearm anywhere I want to including air planes, bars, the White House, etc. without restriction.

No. No. No.

 

I can't honestly think of one single law that would actually decrease gun violence.

The only thing I can think of is supporting laws that increase minimum sentences for any kind of gun violence. The bigger problem is that as a society our judicial system keeps on letting these bad guys off over and over, they don't fear getting caught because they know they will get a deal. Our prison system has become a way of life for these thugs. We need to get air conditioning, TV, Basketball courts and all those other cushions out of prisons for violent offenders. Make those prisoners work to grow a garden for their food, pretty much make it its own island. The only thing they should have is an education system where prisoners can learn a trade and be benefit into society once they are released. Heck I would even favor laws to reward employers who hire there newly educated thugs. BUT no second chances you screw up again its LIFE in the island, NO QUESTIONS!

I would gladly pay more taxes to support a system like this to keep thugs off the streets and deter would be thugs.

I agree that no law would stop it all but this country is too soft on the crimanle , If we would use the death penality more , if you kill some one in a vilont crime you die, none of the out on probation in 10 years, A few will get killed and the rest will think twice

 

i'll take my gun control just the way the founders intended

SHALL NOT BE INFRINGED!

 

Background checks work. Plain and simple. The only problem is, they don't work too well on buyers WITHOUT a criminal history. The grey areas here are wide and vague to say the least. All new firearms sales must go through some type of FFL, so the ONLY person to person contact between the seller and the purchaser is the dealer. That isn't much of a buffer against a whack job getting his hands on a firearm. Jared Laughner (Tucson....Gabrielle Giffords) had no criminal history, same as Holmes had none. Hassan (Ft. Hood) had to go through TX channels to obtain the FiveseveN that he used. Now, I realize that Hassan had some terrorist tendencies, but emails to an Imam known to have influence over terrorist activity should have been the catalyst for someone to arrest his ass...

The answer IS more guns. In the 80's Kennesaw, GA passed a law that ALL heads of household were REQUIRED to obtain a firearm (1982 I think, maybe '88). Since that law was passed, there have only been 4 murders in Kennesaw, and 3 of those were in "gun safe" school zones. Also, do a little googling and check the violent crime rates versus high gun ownership/lax firearms restrictions. You will find all the data you need to put up a nasty argument with ANY anti, but since they are jaded in their views and opinions, you may as well preach your data to a doorknob.

Another answer is for the American people to get their heads out of their collective asses and start paying more attention to what is going on in the world around them. As a general rule, we need to be PROactive instead of REactive. Most mature, sane adults can spot someone who may not be wrapped too tight, and surely most of us can spot someone exhibiting odd behavior, paranoia, etc.

Licensing and permitting.....NO
Limiting type of weapons.....NO
Limiting magazines.............NO
ELIMINATING POLITICAL CORRECTNESS AND FEAR OF BEING SUED OR RIDICULED FOR OFFENDING SOMEONE........HE** YES!!!!!!!!!

 

http://thelawdogfiles.blogspot.com/2010/09/ok-ill-play.html

I cant agree more, we have "compromised" for the last 80+ years which has always meant more restrictions on ownership, carry and use... I am tired of "compromise" when it means that my rights get taken away and I gain no ground at all.

 

Here's a start : Concentrate on the person, not the tool.

Deny possesion on Psychological or emotional issues like
Violence (domestic or a history)
Schizophrenia
etc.

When denied, further investigation is warranted. That still leaves all other illegal actions on the table. The outcome is not a ban on the tool.

-R

^This. 100%

IMHO, there are many mentally unstable and non responsible legal gun owners in our country. We see them at the ranges (outdoor/indoor), and we even engaged communication with them via online in gun forums. I would take a step further, and if you are taking rx medicines for mental health issues, you should be flagged.

The recent murders by LEGAL gun owners, are good examples of unstable human beings. These thugs chose to execute others because they had issues. Like it or not, it immediately impacts us.

 

IMO your proposal would be better applied to voter registration than gun ownership.

The current Gun Control Act and other laws on the books have already infringed on our rights too far. I will not agree to trade any more of our freedom for further illusions of security.

 

I agree there should be no compromise regarding the weapon owned, but what about becoming a licensed gun owner, just like a licensed driver?

Only if that "gun license" is recognized everywhere, nationwide, like a drivers license. And it lets me carry everywhere, nationwide, with no restrictions.
The only gun control idea I have is to actually punish the people, severely, who use guns illegally. Most gun charges nowadays are plea bargained away, Take all the thugs and gang bangers that carry and use guns illegally, and lock them up forever.

 

You can't stop crazy, nor can you accurately predict it. It's like an earthquake. You can prepare to respond/react to it, but you will not be able to predict it.

This is the risk of living in a free society. If you want to affix blame or point to prevention, look to parents and family. My guess is they knew he was a nut case and would likely have been the best to do something about it beforehand.

As for once it starts, the only optin is to act and neutralize the threat. If the laws allowed that, you could have seen different headlines.

 

"They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety." Benjamin Franklin.

 

What part of "shall not be infringed" is so hard to understand?

There can be me compromise. To compromise is to admit that it is not a right.


Blame any misspellings and or grammatical errors on the ridiculously small keypad on my phone. Friggin tappatalk my butt.

 

What part of "shall not be infringed" is so hard to understand?

There can be me compromise. To compromise is to admit that it is not a right.

Blame any misspellings and or grammatical errors on the ridiculously small keypad on my phone. Friggin tappatalk my butt.

Exactly. The old saying "give them an inch, they'll take a mile" is an understatement here. Shall not be infringed means exactly that, and honestly, we've been infringed way beyond the point of reasonable at this point. How many NIC's checks do you think Thomas Jefferson and George Washington went through? How many times do you think Samuel Adams or Benjamin Franklin had to send in a check for $200 to the BATFE NFA branch?

 

Only if that "gun license" is recognized everywhere, nationwide, like a drivers license. And it lets me carry everywhere, nationwide, with no restrictions.
The only gun control idea I have is to actually punish the people, severely, who use guns illegally. Most gun charges nowadays are plea bargained away, Take all the thugs and gang bangers that carry and use guns illegally, and lock them up forever.

or just put em down with their own illegal weapon

 

Because it is our right, given by GOD, to own a firearm, as articulated in the 2nd amendment. There is no guaranteed right to drive a car, or receive health insurance (but that's a different topic for another day).

Please show me where this is a God given right. Last I checked God has nothing to do with the second amendment, and I cannot seem to find that in the Bible anywhere. So if you could please point that out I would appreciate it.