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This is my opinion as well. But they are fun for the first couple of times you shoot with one.IMO, they're a Mall ninja waste of time. Your results may vary....
I agree with you 100% , I was answering the question from the civie roll. I do have a set of Crimson Trace panels on a G23 and they can be useful when shooting from awkward positions. When it hits the fan you may not be able to perform the Weaver stance when engaing the threat. But with a rifle I just don't see a need for most folks. However you need to know how to use irons long before going to any optic or laser device.Only in IR and with NOD's
The lasers on pistols same. No real need unless rolling with NODs. Kind of hard to shoot a pistol with PVS-14's on and hit a target. Lol