You cannot convert a rifle into a pistol. The atf has posted in this. You can convert a pistol to a rifle but not the ither way.

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You cannot convert a rifle into a pistol. The atf has posted in this. You can convert a pistol to a rifle but not the ither way.

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Its already a pistol.....

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http://blog.princelaw.com/2009/09/01/florida-man-arrested-for-constructive-possession-of-an-sbr/

I would be concerned about constructive possession...

 

What is the registered part on it? Since it is a pistol i would think you would be fine with the chopped stock as long as it cannot be shoulder fired.

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What is the registered part on it? Since it is a pistol i would think you would be fine with the chopped stock as long as it cannot be shoulder fired.

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The serialized part is the receiver, which is identical to a 10/22 receiver except it has Charger engraved on the side denoting it's pistol status.

Nothing is registered yet. Will be once I file my paperwork and get my stamp.

Basically I figured the mare's leg would be a cool interim project while I wait on the process.

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Sounds like the build would stay a pistol to me. I suppose it would have a bit to do with what physical configuration you end up with behind the receiver. If it remotely resembles a butt-stock I'd be concerned.

 

Whats the overall length with the cut down? If its under, then you don't want to do the cut down yet if I am understanding it correctly. By no means an expert...

 

Sounds like the build would stay a pistol to me. I suppose it would have a bit to do with what physical configuration you end up with behind the receiver. If it remotely resembles a butt-stock I'd be concerned.

Think Rossi Ranch Hand, but semiauto......

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Sounds like the build would stay a pistol to me. I suppose it would have a bit to do with what physical configuration you end up with behind the receiver. If it remotely resembles a butt-stock I'd be concerned.

Yeah thats what I was thinking...

 

The serialized part is the receiver, which is identical to a 10/22 receiver except it has Charger engraved on the side denoting it's pistol status.

Nothing is registered yet. Will be once I file my paperwork and get my stamp.

Basically I figured the mare's leg would be a cool interim project while I wait on the process.

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Also, the Charger and 10/22 barrels are not interchangeable are they? I think that's another "difference".

I have no idea why I don't have at least one Charger in my collection!

 

Looks like it *could* be shouldered... I wouldn't.

 

http://www.thehighroad.org/archive/index.php/t-487021.html

 

Looks like it *could* be shouldered... I wouldn't.

I have to admit I have my reservations, but if that ^ is legal, why would a charger with the exact same configuration not be?

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Dunno, I am one of those guys that says, "Well its legal to do it, but trying to explain that its legal might be more effort than I wanna expend on it"

You might be right, but you might wander into no-no territory, and if its an interpretation thing, I alway assume they will think the worst.

This is a hobby, I have kids and a wife that wouldn't like to visit me in federal klink...

 

Yeah, in reading up on it, at least two have been made and posted about on forums, complete with pictures even. One guy wrote to atf tech branch for a ruling and got the reply that it "sounds" legal, but he would have to submit his stock, sans receiver, for a definitive answer.

Eh, too much trouble and potential trouble for an interim toy. Gonna just file for my stamp and play with it as is for now.

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And the pics above remind me that I really want a ranch hand in .45Colt...........

Oooh the loads I shoot in my full size 92 would be fun......

And its a pistol so legal to CCW.....lol

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I have to admit I have my reservations, but if that ^ is legal, why would a charger with the exact same configuration not be?

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May have to do with the length of the gun over all. 26" is classed as Other.

Take the 1919a4, it is classed as other, you can have a short barrel on it as in 10" and still be legal if the total length is 26 or more. At thst point you can not have the stock. BUt at a length of 16" barrel you can add and remove the stock plus use tripod or bipod.

There are a few guns that were classed as legal no paper SBR.
These were made in the late 1800-1900, most being rimfire or the 30-30 winchester that was a Carbine, 14" barrel.

You can not copy them today making one from a late dated 94, but you can own one that was real and shipped that way.
Some others fall under that deal.

The ranch hand is a copy of the way they made some guns in the 1800's, and I remember the barrel was set by ATF and length to let them make it today being a copy of an old gun.

For the ruger, on trial, there is one thing you got to think, if ask DID YOU ADD A RIFLE STOCK.
How would you answer? Yes you did but cut it shorter...

It would be hard to get by it, also WHY, so I could get a better cheek weld shooting.
LIKE SOMEONE WITH A RIFLE, in a way I guess....

it sounds like it would be ok to do, but make sure you have the money and time to be a test case...
Or call ATF then send a letter of your gun and a picture of the stock like you want to do and get a ruling.

 

And its a pistol so legal to CCW.....lol

Need to check the laws, it is ok in NC from what I know.
But some states have a size and weight limit for CCW. SC is under that law.

In NC and VA I can carry my AR pistol as CC, like in the truck, in a bag or briefcase but not SC and some others.

 

Yeah I was referring to NC there.

Once upon a time I had a plr16 as a truck gun. Same concept here with the Rossi. Charger too for that matter if it were possible to legally mares leg one.

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If ^ that is legal then why not cut the stock so you've only got a hand hold behind the receiver rather than letting the stock start to flare out toward the cheek piece.

 

If ^ that is legal then why not cut the stock so you've only got a hand hold behind the receiver rather than letting the stock start to flare out toward the cheek piece.

Wouldn't be much different than the stock grip and wouldn't have that cool mares leg look. I would also think that a little stock left behind like on the Ranch Hand would better balance the gun.

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