20 would be what I keep outside the vault, and I shoot in my basement. I reckon it`s good I don`t live there huh? :lol:

 

"four counts of possession of an infernal device and four counts of possession of a dangerous weapon"

What the heck is an infernal device? And...only four of the guns were dangerous?
I'd like to hear why the man showed up at his house in the first place.

 

1) Glad I'm in NC

2) He's not completely nuts because there is "an impending Armageddon"...it just may not require firearms.

 

He had an "illegal" shooting range in the attic of a "condo" unit?...this likely led to the warrant.

 

"Salem District Court"
The new witch trials begin.

 

http://www.mass.gov/legis/laws/mgl/266-102a.htm

CHAPTER 266. CRIMES AGAINST PROPERTY

Chapter 266: Section 102A. Infernal machine; possession; definition; notice of seizure

Section 102A. Whoever, other than a police or other law enforcement officer acting in the discharge of his official duties, has in his possession or under his control an infernal machine or a similar instrument, contrivance or device shall be punished by imprisonment in the state prison for not more than ten years or in jail for not more than two and one half years, or by a fine of not more than one thousand dollars, or by both such fine and imprisonment, and the said machine, instrument, contrivance or device shall be forfeited to the commonwealth. The term "infernal machine", as used in this section, shall include any device for endangering life or doing unusual damage to property, or both, by fire or, explosion, whether or not contrived to ignite or explode automatically and whether or not disguised so as to appear harmless. Notice of the seizure of any such machine, instrument, contrivance or device shall be sent forthwith to the commissioner of public safety and the article seized shall be subject to his order.

I would guess that is the law that got him in big trouble.

 

But what were the 'infernal machines'?

 

makes me glad I live "south of the border"

 

Maybe an AR with a flare launcher on it. Who knows really, lol.

 

As assbackwards as this whole thing sounds the "infernal machine" was probably his computer!!!!

 

But what were the 'infernal machines'?

Sounds like a bomb or bomb-making equipment, with emphasis added.

The term "infernal machine", as used in this section, shall include any device for endangering life or doing unusual damage to property, or both, by fire or, explosion, whether or not contrived to ignite or explode automatically and whether or not disguised so as to appear harmless.

 

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But what were the 'infernal machines'?

"Infernal machines" is a fairly flexible term in Massachusetts:

http://news.cnet.com/8301-10784_3-6155806-7.html

and here's a picture of an honest-to-goodness actual infernal device:

http://img52.imageshack.us/img52/7633/mooninitelightboard.jpg

This was actually a pretty funny case, and really did stir things up for a while. Other infernal devices can potentially include inert hand grenades and even firecrackers. But some folks have apparently made genuine infernal machines (from the article linked-to above):

http://politechbot.com/docs/massachusetts.infernal.machine.cases.020107.txt

 

And why might one be so inclined to open fire in his attic?


I'd keep from calling him a nut just yet. Most everyone here is guilty of reading or posting in a thread regarding EOTWAWKI or something similar. Armageddon doesn't necessarily mean Bruce Willis heroicly dry-humping a nuke on an asteroid.

 

It was probaly an airsoft range, most of his guns were probly airsoft, and the 4 "dangerous ones" were probly the only real ones.

and yes i do realize that i do not know how to spell, probly.

 

Probably.



your welcome



(Yes I know I spelled "you're, "your")

 

Probably.

your welcome

(Yes I know I spelled "you're, "your")

Thanks, :b

 

But what were the 'infernal machines'?

"Gregory D. Girard, 45, was arrested Tuesday night for allegedly storing several tear gas grenades and explosive pepper ball projectiles. He was also charged with the illegal possession of four police batons."

 

"Gregory D. Girard, 45, was arrested Tuesday night for allegedly storing several tear gas grenades and explosive pepper ball projectiles. He was also charged with the illegal possession of four police batons."

Thanks, I didn't see that in the article.
Are police batons illegal in Mass. ?

 

Number -1 :

His wife finked him out. That is what originally led to the investigation.


Number - 2 :

I believe the firing range in the attic was definitley frowned upon by the authorities.
Someone earlier mentioned they shoot in the basement...OK, probably in a free standing home, in a basement.

In an attic, with adjoining condos...that's a different story. To me, this was not smart on his part.

All of the rest...number of firearms and amount of ammo was just left-wing, biased media grandstanding.


And since when it is a bad thing to keep emergency stores of food, knives, and cammo clothing?


And finally :

See Number - 1...his wife finked him out.


Regards,

MD

 

Number - 2 :

I believe the firing range in the attic was definitley frowned upon by the authorities.
Someone earlier mentioned they shoot in the basement...OK, probably in a free standing home, in a basement.

In an attic, with adjoining condos...that's a different story. To me, this was not smart on his part.

Depends. In many cities, it might be very illegal. (It is in Winston-Salem. Any discharge of a firearm within the city limits is a problem. There may be a way around that, but I'll bet it isn't easy.)

In the county it might be OK.

 

Leaving aside the handcuffs and whatever kinky things he planned to do with them

Do you have any wire ties in your home? Sounds like a typical media villification to me.

 

I lived in Salem, Mass. for a year. Holy crap! I don't know how folks could let the govt. have so much power over them. Nice place where I lived, but I couldn't wait to leave.

I left my guns at my brother's place in NH until we moved back to NH. I don't regret the time I lived in Mass 'cause it's where I met my wife, but I had to get the hell out of there.

In Mass. it's illegal to engage in oral sex with your wife. No joke.

Great place to visit.

 

In Mass. it's illegal to engage in oral sex with your wife. No joke.

That was also the case in NC, until relatively recently. (I "THINK" the law has been changed.) It's still illegal to herd cattle down the middle of the street, though.

 

That was also the case in NC, until relatively recently. (I "THINK" the law has been changed.) It's still illegal to herd cattle down the middle of the street, though.

To hell with herding them, is it ok to just turn them out and see what happens?

j/k

I know sodomy is illegal in many states, however, Mass is the only place I ever recall hearing of a husband and wife being charged with the 'offense'.