Sweet! That's going to be a sweet setup.

 

Yeah, I like it. Good choices.

 

Very nice! That may be the best out the box rifle you can buy at that price point!

 

Your handle is Winchester and you buy a Savage?.......in what way does the Savage out perform the Model 70?

 

in what way does the Savage out perform the Model 70?

I must admit I'm a Winchester fanatic. I'm currently compiling a collection of Lever Action commemoratives. If anyone has one for sale see my post in the WTB. That being said the Model 70 is a fine hunting rifle, but that's what it is; a hunting rifle. Thanks guys I've put a lot of thought into the setup.

 

Your handle is Winchester and you buy a Savage?.......in what way does the Savage out perform the Model 70?

Winchesters are all made to hunt animals with more than two legs. Although I guess you could use one on an ostrich hunt.

I'm pretty sure the OP is looking to create sit-still precision from concealment, not a leverevolution.

 

Winchesters are all made to hunt animals with more than two legs.

Indeed. I don't think they make a rifle with a detachable magazine either? I could be wrong. One thing I love about Winchesters is that they have beautiful blueing. They hand checker their stocks as well. But Bennn's right. They're deer rifles.

 

I'll probably just order the rifle from a local dealer but Impact Guns has them in stock. It being a new model their the only folks I've seen claiming to have them in stock. Has anyone ordered from Impact? I know they've been around awhile and they have a good rating on Amazon. Not a deal breaker but I was surprised to see cheaperthandirt asking $112.00 for a magazine for this rifle. Wow. Hopefully the rifle comes with two mags. I'll be wanting two mags, but I'd like to pay less than $112.00. I'll post some pics for you guys when I get everything put together. Does anyone have suggestions for a high quality, highest quality flash hider?

 

That is a great looking setup. Cannot wait to see some range reports!

 

Does anyone have suggestions for a high quality, highest quality flash hider?

Get a suppressor for it, it will hide the flash well.

 

Winchesters are all made to hunt animals with more than two legs. Although I guess you could use one on an ostrich hunt.

I'm pretty sure the OP is looking to create sit-still precision from concealment, not a leverevolution.

Are you saying that a Savage is a precision piece and a Winchester Model 70 is not capable of such accuracy?

 

Are you saying that a Savage is a precision piece and a Winchester Model 70 is not capable of such accuracy?

Yes. I'm also saying Winchester doesn't make a rifle with a detachable 10 round magazine, factory threaded barrel, and a sub pound trigger.

 

I think that looks like a really nice rifle, plus it's already threaded, so you have to get the suppressor. My next purchase is going to be an fv-sr to go with my new .22 can.

 

Yep, that's a nice set up. If it had been available when I purchased my 700 milspec, I would have probably purchased the savage.

"Why"? you ask. Well, I payed close to a grand for the rifle, then had to pay around $100 to have the barrel threaded. I haven't purchased the detachable magazine (yet) but when I do, I'm looking at around $400 and that just includes one magazine. Additional mags are around $100 each.

So, mine with threaded barrel and detachable magazine with one mag will gross around $1500. If I could have done the same thing, and had the same accuracy for $500 less, guess which way I would have gone.

 

Your handle is Winchester and you buy a Savage?.......in what way does the Savage out perform the Model 70?

Maybe 6 of the last 6 World Long Distance Championships from Team Savage using an off the shelf production rifle.Model 12 target rifle

A barrel so simple that any man with basic tools and time can swap out with minimal instruction.

A Trigger system (The old pre accutrigger) that is also simple easily adjusted with nothing more than 5 mins of instruction on what to do.

When was the last time you took the bolt of a Rem 700, Model 70, Howa 1500 apart without special tools are getting a bruise on your stomach....Savage bolt comes apart with an allen wrench for easily replace bolt (Tactical bolt knobs, customized bolt knobs of your choice, bolt face change out for caliber change.

Savage = versatility

A industry changing trigger system (The accutrigger) that every other company shat themselves over trying to copy.

Savage barrels having button cut rifling for tall lands and deep grooves, making for accurate and long barrel life. No micro grooves, no hammer forging rifling off a mandrel....

Winchester can hang its hat on? Yeah I couldn't think of it either.

 

Currently Savage has a very good rifling machine and a better yet marketing game. The base of any rifle is the action and the Model 70 is in a class by itself when compared to production level designs even though the current owners of Winchester choose to molest the design with a copy of the Accu-junk trigger.

 

Currently Savage has a very good rifling machine and a better yet marketing game. The base of any rifle is the action and the Model 70 is in a class by itself when compared to production level designs even though the current owners of Winchester choose to molest the design with a copy of the Accu-junk trigger.

Uhhhh they have used the same button rifling machines since 1958. Some of the finest machining tools are the oldest.

Model 70 class by itself? that would be the "Also Ran" class.

Lets not forget Winchester is name only, the company is gone, the name is owned and marketed by FNH with home base in Belgium.

Savage for its entire history and is currently American owned, designed, and manufactured.

Winchester had one of the best actions on a bolt prior to 1964, but now? Not so much.

 

Hard to beat a factory Savage out of the box and they were smart enough to use 1:10 so you can shoot heavies. I love the Redding micro adjust seating dies...good choice. Only thing I see you might regret is an optic topping out at 8x. Nothing wrong with 8x but most people buying Lapua brass, comp dies and VLD's are looking to shoot distance or bug holes and 8x is going to limit you with both. Of course I am only guessing your intended use and either way it'll be a nice rig.

 

Here is picture of Team Savage with their off the shelf competition rifles Model: 12 F/TR

Contrast with Winchester latest product announcements, accuracy accolades and industry awards...

 

Only thing I see you might regret is an optic topping out at 8x. Nothing wrong with 8x but most people buying Lapua brass, comp dies and VLD's are looking to shoot distance or bug holes and 8x is going to limit you with both.

I know, I put a lot of thought into the optic. I already own a Leupold 45X45 1/8th minute dot competition with a 30mm tube and I have a 35X40 Leupold FX-3 Silhouette with a 3/8 minute dot and 1 inch tube. I use the 45x on my Model 12 F-Class Savage and the 35x on my Anschutz rimfire. I'm embarrassed to say this, but I kind of fancy the new rifle as a shtf zombie gun. I will compete with it since it's new but I plan on keeping the zero at 300yrd with the Mark4. I'm figuring if I want to push it I can throw the 45x on it to get out there. I have a Nikon 75x Fieldscope that competes with me so for giggles I may just use the Mark4 at the first NRA match. Most of the time however I believe I'll be ringing the bell on steel targets. I do hope this scope works well with the rifle. It's not right for my Daniel Defense and I don't want to have to buy another rifle to fit a scope...... again. As I think about it though I can't think of a more fitting rifle for this scope.

 

Since it sounds like you will have it soon, bring it out to the Sniper Golf match 3/17: http://www.carolinashootersclub.com/threads/2502-Sniper-Golf-Part-2-March-17-2012

 

All in your intended use. I'd be interested in how the rifle is throated and the bolt face to lands OAL. Savage definitely seems to be the only manufacturer really in tune with the rifle shooter.

 

The savages shoot great, however I hate the lack of accessories like a good stock. You can order one from McMillan or Manners but its a very long wait still. Same with Winchester.

As far as which one is better, the winchester is a fully capable and the action/bolt is pretty simplistic. The bolt can be disassembled in the field w/o any specialized tooling. FN rifles are built off a winchester action, the SPR is a damn fine shooter just as capable as the savage. I'm not saying the savage is trash, They are both equally equipped, but the savage is a lot cheaper than the SPR and of course you do some barrel changes a lot easier on savage, plus swap bolt heads for 223, 308, and 300wm all w/ the same bolt and action (if you run a long action)

out of the box they are all pretty much the same shooters. If you take the time to load develop they will all perform about the same.

As Cape Fear said, get the rifle and come shoot it, that's what's important

 

As Cape Fear said, get the rifle and come shoot it, that's what's important




get the date right and a few more will be there.............. LOLOLOL Sorry Kyle I could not resist.
Gimme call or PM about ammo. They are starting to run low since Federal is under contract again with Obamalama till futher notice. (at least that's what's I've been told by UNRELIABLE sources! (not by Federal) )

 

You will not regret buying the Redding dies. As far as I'm concerned, they are the Cadillac although I've never used Forsters.

I am a Remington 700 fan to the bone but I swear, Remington is starting to look like a dinosaur stuck in a tar pit. Remington's production line of 700s is suffering from major quality control issues, then you have an innovative company like Savage putting out 0.5 moa off the shelf guns. It will be interesting to see who survives.