Oh I sure hope you find someone, I'm looking for one too!

 

I've never used a lawyer, but you can print out a trust with Quick Will Maker without any problem. Trusts for firearms don't need any special language or sections or anything to be used for NFA items.

 

Talk to cornershot as well. I can't remember if he is one, but a lot of guys who sell silencers will print, help you fill out the form and have a notary on staff, so all you have to do is mail it.

 

Talk to cornershot as well. I can't remember if he is one, but a lot of guys who sell silencers will print, help you fill out the form and have a notary on staff, so all you have to do is mail it.

hope they are licensed to practice law!

 

hope they are licensed to practice law!

Wouldn't need to be They're only "helping" and all you need for a trust is your signature, and that of a notary. I'm having mine signed when I get home, it has its perks when your Girlfriend's mother is a notary.

 

Right now the ATF is takeing a guy thru the system for useing some internet trust. And with out a lawyer to verify in our state it might not be legal. It also should not be attached to a regular revocable trust if realestate is involved. Also if a class 3 dealer has trust paper work but no attorneys name in your state to verify it probably ain't leagl to use. Thats the reason i am looking for a lawyer that has done some nfa trust.

 

Right now the ATF is takeing a guy thru the system for useing some internet trust. .

Post a link, proof, etc... don't post lies.

If you are talking about the Gun Lawyer website post about something similar you should consider the source, its comming from someone selling a $500 service to fill out a form. Even if there was a actual incident (which remains in question) the paperwork was probably just returned so he could correct his error before the stamp was issued. No one one has ever gotten in any trouble for using quicken to create a trust. If they did news would spread pretty quick, and the gunlawyer guy would be all over it trying to sway the ignorant masses.

 

c5 nc You must be a second rate dealer to be calling me a lier. I found the info at a class 3 dealers site in charlotte area. Hell I did not rite it down. I have been try'n for 3 weeks to find a dam attorney to help me out. You must be parinoid that ever body is lie'n to you . I do know if a darn trust from some dealer ain't legal unless I know a nc lawyer has proof it first. One of my area dealers likes to use a internet trust. Oh, he ain't a lawyer. The other 2 to have never seen a gun trust or delt with a gun trust. That alone does not make me comfy. And there is no one advertizeing in NC that i can find. Don't call me a LIER . I don't know anything about a gun lawyer web site cause i can't find anything about any NC gun trust at all. They advertize in florida and south carolina, thats it. I do know my revocable trust i do have had to be change when i moved here from florida. My florida lawyer told me that. So I assume that any florida based gun trust could be worthless here. Why the heck do you think I am asking for a dam lawyer that does this. If there is one in NC. I am smart enought to contact the state attoney generals office and found out they can't or won't help with info about a trust being legal or not.


Since your so damd bright ,give me a name of a regular ole lawyer in THIS state that does guntrust . I'm waiting?????

 

Hay c5 nc
Maybe these ole boys can tell you a bit why I am looking in to trust more.
PERSONAL DEFENCE & HANDGUN SAFTY CENTER in raliegh. Look at there class 3 site. This is what has me try'n to find a bottom line. Legal or not. When the dam state AG office will not advise yes or no then????????

 

The AG will most likely tell you it's not legal or won't answer just because he doesn't like NFA items and actively pressures sheriffs to not sign off.

 

AG will tell you no, PDHSC and the group they link to that provided that statement will tell you no as that has been their stance on the issue for years.

I have never heard of a lawyer in NC who would do it.

 

c5 nc You must be a second rate dealer to be calling me a lier. I found the info at a class 3 dealers site in charlotte area. Hell I did not rite it down. I have been try'n for 3 weeks to find a dam attorney to help me out. You must be parinoid that ever body is lie'n to you . I do know if a darn trust from some dealer ain't legal unless I know a nc lawyer has proof it first. One of my area dealers likes to use a internet trust. Oh, he ain't a lawyer. The other 2 to have never seen a gun trust or delt with a gun trust. That alone does not make me comfy. And there is no one advertizeing in NC that i can find. Don't call me a LIER . I don't know anything about a gun lawyer web site cause i can't find anything about any NC gun trust at all. They advertize in florida and south carolina, thats it. I do know my revocable trust i do have had to be change when i moved here from florida. My florida lawyer told me that. So I assume that any florida based gun trust could be worthless here. Why the heck do you think I am asking for a dam lawyer that does this. If there is one in NC. I am smart enought to contact the state attoney generals office and found out they can't or won't help with info about a trust being legal or not.

Since your so damd bright ,give me a name of a regular ole lawyer in THIS state that does guntrust . I'm waiting?????

I requested details of the mis-information you posted about the ATF taking the guy through the system for using a online trust. Its not true. PDHSC has the same problem spreading misinformation. Apparently they think there has to be North Carolina law saying its OK to use a Trust, when most states outside of "ban state" don't address trusts in their law and the ATF lawyers apparently are OK with them.

To answer your question, pretty much every attorney in the state can give you a trust. If you are asking for a Gun or NFA Specific Trust there is not not such a thing. The trusts used for NFA items are regular trusts and the property held in them are firearms. There are not state requirements for trusts that have firearm property in them. Which is why most people use forms or quicken to do them, rather than to pay an attorney fill out a similar form for them.

 

If any lawyer that does trust can do one for firearms then 8 of them i my area and the office full of them in asheville that do trust and estate plane only can't, won't or don't do anything related to guns. I have no names from you that will do a trust covering just firearms. Untill class 3 dealers can even be on the same page with a trust in nc i will just wait. So unless your a practiceing attorney in NC you have nothing for me. Just hear say or what you think. Maybe lies on your part.

 

This thred is intresteng. I cant weight to get all of the rite ansers.

 

This thred is intresteng. I cant weight to get all of the rite ansers.

:lol:

I see what you did there.

 

If any lawyer that does trust can do one for firearms then 8 of them i my area and the office full of them in asheville that do trust and estate plane only can't, won't or don't do anything related to guns. I have no names from you that will do a trust covering just firearms. Untill class 3 dealers can even be on the same page with a trust in nc i will just wait. So unless your a practiceing attorney in NC you have nothing for me. Just hear say or what you think. Maybe lies on your part.

There is no special trust for NFA items, and there is no state law concerning them. It is a federal law, with federal restrictions. The states can't decide how a federal law is implemented.

Its distinctly possible that the 8 lawyers you say won't help you just don't want to help you. Or perhaps they aren't familiar with the NFA legislation and don't want to wade into. OR, more likely, you are asking if they do NFA trusts, which they don't because they don't exist.

When you apply to own an NFA item you are applying to the federal government, not the states. There is no secondary licensure in the state of North Carolina for possession of an NFA item. Since the items are legal in the state of North Carolina all you have to do is satisfy the federal government. An irrevocable trust is one method of satisfying the fed. An LLC and a CLEO signature are two other ways.

Lets not forget that YOU came to a public forum asking for advise. Its worth what you pay for it. If you don't like the answer do your own research. There is NO SPECIAL TRUST FOR NFA ITEMS, that simple. However if you don't like that answer, or you insist on having a lawyer sign off on it, then go get a lawyer and stop being an ass to the people who are trying to help you.

 

Instead of being a jerk to those who are trying to help you (many of whom have done what you are trying to do SUCCESSFULLY), save yourself the time and aggravation and call this number:

1-800-662-7407

It is the NC Bar Association. They'll refer you to an attorney in your area.

Or, call Dancy Arms in Salisbury. They've done many Class III transfers to trusts.

 

Its the people that keep stirring up all the dust around NFA items/Trust and their legality that cause more harm than help. This is one of the reasons I've stopped offering any guidance on this stuff. As was said before, there is no such thing as a NFA Trust nor is there a requirement for such....hence the reason you can't find anyone to do one. Its very hard to find any attorney who will risk their licensing to practice in an area that are unfamiliar with.


If you're uncomfortable using a boiler plate Trust then don't do it and stop stirring up so much sh*t about it as it only causes more problems.

 

1 - is this why yankees make fun of rebs?
2 - to the OP, the statement that offended you was "Post a link, proof, etc... don't post lies." You weren't called a liar, the tone was clearly that you had probably been duped by a self-serving website that is apparently known for exaggeration. At worst you were accused of passing along their bull crap, and heck it's the Internet, you're far from alone in falling into that.

Breath deeply, reread everything with an open mind and without any bias, and you'll find one of several paths to enlightenment.

 

I think mrcroom is a hoot! hahahahaha

 

I think mrcroom is a hoot! hahahahaha

I second that, his comment made this thread.

 

Keep in mind NC has some of the loosest trust laws of any state. You don't even need to do paperwork to create a revocable living trust here in NC. I can do a verbal one. You probably won't find a lawyer that will do a "NFA Trust" due to the vague nature of the statutes. You'll find plenty to do a standard trust. So have them do one. Then just move your NFA items to it. Nothing special about a trust holding NFA items.

 

For those the couple of posters that are truely trying to help and offered worth while advise, Thank you.

 

Send the kid to school, and he eats the books....

 

NC NFA Trusts

I am an attorney in NC who offers NFA trusts, in conjunction with guntrustlawyer.com. Please review the website for the advantages of using a specialized NFA trust prepared by an experienced gun trust lawyer.

We prepare trusts for gun owners across the state, and have done at least a hundred over the last couple of years.

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