To start with, we love "which gun threads"! It's a main reason we are here...to discuss what to carry.

I have to hit the road but will comment more later.

 

If you liked the P226, check out a P229 as well. If you like DA/SA also check out the HK p30 and P2000SK.

 

I have nothing to help. I shoot any type handgun. Most fairly well. Some better than others. I do not want a range gun for a carry gun. For me a carry gun will be 22oz and under and a good range gun would be heavier and larger than what I carry. 4 1/2" barrel and larger .

I don't life the life style that would allow a large or heavier pistol to be comfortable or practical for carry. We all eventually find what cc's best and what we enjoy as range toys. I grew up shooting and hunting with revolvers . I carry a thin pistol , mostly a single stack that can be cc'd under a t-shirt if need but still enjoy shoot everthing from a 22 to 44mag and load for most.




Thang it there and in 10 years, more or less your figure it all out !

 

The point isn't "carrying a range gun daily", it is carrying a pistol that you enjoy shooting enough that you will actually use it at the range. That little mouse gun that you only shoot once a year is great for comfort, but you have shot it enough to learn muscle memory and other vital aspects of shooting.

Having range guns is fine. Having CCW guns is fine. But make sure your CCW is something you will actually practice with.

Back to the OP...have you checked out the Khar line up? I have always found them to be very pleasant for people with smaller hands like I have.

My daily carry, range gun, and competition/training gun is a Glock 19. Even with small hands it is as comfortable as a Glock can be for me.

 

booger My mouse guns get shot ever two weeks. Just don't conceder them range guns but would work fine for a ipsa match. Oh and there kahrs. cm9, cw9 and tp40. Well the cw9 now belongs to one of my girls as here CC. Don't Assume .

 

booger My mouse guns get shot ever two weeks. Just don't conceder them range guns but would work fine for a ipsa match. Oh and there kahrs. cm9, cw9 and tp40. Well the cw9 now belongs to one of my girls as here CC. Don't Assume .

You assume I was calling you out specifically. I was pointing out to people who are not you who may read your post and assume that it's ok to have a little pocket blaster that only gets shot to knock the lint out of it once a year as opposed to a pistol that they take time with at the range.

Bit dog barks though.

 

You assume I was calling you out specifically. I was pointing out to people who are not you who may read your post and assume that it's ok to have a little pocket blaster that only gets shot to knock the lint out of it once a year as opposed to a pistol that they take time with at the range.

Bit dog barks though.

This is a solid point. I just shot my LCP Thursday that I've carried foe a few months for the first time. I hate it.

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Puddlejockey, I too have relatively small hands and prefer both EDC and range guns to be natural pointers for me. My preferred pocket 9 is a Kahr PM9. Same form factor as a CM9 but with a higher quality barrel. Next step up in size for EDC is a Springfield Armory XD9 subcompact. Lots of mag capacity options and it fits my hands.


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I borrowed a friends 9mm shield to try, and it shot well and was comfortable for me.

This on it's own says enough for me. I'd say try and get more trigger time behind it, if you can walk around with it for a day. See how it goes for you. If it doesn't make the cut, then you would know not to choose that line look in another direction. Just my opinion. Usually though, your first guess is right.

 

I agree with you on the P226 - best gun ever.
I think M&P's are the "poor man's" P226. So let me know if you want to sell your M&P 40 pro.

There's not that much difference between a 40 and a 9 in a full size gun to warrant changing over - BUT in the smaller guns (like a shield) the 40 can be more difficult to manage.

I also agree with B00GER's point - a shield is big enough that its fun to shoot at the range (I use mine in IDPA) but small/thin enough to regularly carry.

Good luck whatever you decide - but a P226 is a LOT of gun to carry, especially if your M&P already sits at home.

 

Thanks for the input, folks!
I had some free time today, so I spent a few hours shooting some rental guns I hadn't had any trigger time with ( or very little, anyway). Ended up really liking the sig P938, which surprised me to be frank. I wasn't thinking SAO or a 1911 style platform, but that's a sweet shooting little 9, and pretty shockingly accurate for a pocket rocket!

 

Only comment from me is don't even consider the 250. Waste of time and don't really know what sigs as thinking there.

 

The point isn't "carrying a range gun daily", it is carrying a pistol that you enjoy shooting enough that you will actually use it at the range. That little mouse gun that you only shoot once a year is great for comfort, but you have shot it enough to learn muscle memory and other vital aspects of shooting.

Having range guns is fine. Having CCW guns is fine. But make sure your CCW is something you will actually practice with.

Where's that plus one thing again?

Booger you hit the nail on the head with what I meant by " your carry gun should be your range gun." IMO, and this is just an opinion, far too many people have pistols they like to shoot, and consequently practice with regularly; and ones they carry, which get shot maybe once or twice a year. My EDC pistol needs to be one that I enjoy shooting as well as carrying. Being unpracticed in a high stress situation with a pistol that's comfy to wear is dangerous; and being really, really good with the ones in the safe while you and the BG are both at the mall....

 

I'd love some input from some experienced shooters ! Thanks-

( PS...yes I tried the GEN 4)

Here's the best advice I can give you:

The "best" gun is the one YOU like, not anyone else. It will be a compromise of:

1. Fit - It should fit in your hand like you were born with it there.
2. Reliability - It should go BANG about 99.8% of the time you pull the trigger.
3. Accuracy - In YOUR hand. It's how well YOU shoot it.
4. Concealability - It should be comfortable enough to wear and easy enough to conceal so you won't leave it laying on the dresser at home.
5. Cost - You don't want to scrimp on your "life protector" weapon, but you probably don't need a $1,000 Kimber, either.
6. Enjoyment - The caliber and gun should be fun to shoot. If it isn't, you won't practice with it like you should.

Carry what you shoot best.

 

Where's that plus one thing again?

Booger you hit the nail on the head with what I meant by " your carry gun should be your range gun." IMO, and this is just an opinion, far too many people have pistols they like to shoot, and consequently practice with regularly; and ones they carry, which get shot maybe once or twice a year. My EDC pistol needs to be one that I enjoy shooting as well as carrying. Being unpracticed in a high stress situation with a pistol that's comfy to wear is dangerous; and being really, really good with the ones in the safe while you and the BG are both at the mall....

I carry a glock 26, but I also shoot a glock 17 in competition. Both have the same trigger kit, sights, etc.

I used to carry a shield (sometimes still do when my 26 is out of commission), and shot an M&P9L in competition. I also disabled the safety on my shield.

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I had the same dilemma as you. I was carrying a M&P 9 FS as my edc, and eventually I started leaving it at home due to the weight and bulk of the gun. I picked up a PF-9 to use as my edc, and loved how it carried but I couldn't stand to shoot it at the range because of how uncomfortable it was to shoot. I finally picked up and settled on a GLOCK 26. I feel it is the best compromise between size, weight, capacity, and comfort to shoot. Good luck in your search.


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Thanks for the input, folks!
I had some free time today, so I spent a few hours shooting some rental guns I hadn't had any trigger time with ( or very little, anyway). Ended up really liking the sig P938, which surprised me to be frank. I wasn't thinking SAO or a 1911 style platform, but that's a sweet shooting little 9, and pretty shockingly accurate for a pocket rocket!

The P938 and P238 are nice little pistols--have both and like them a lot!

 

Don't confuse how accurate or fun to shoot it is at the range with how you might perform with it in a SD situation. I carried a PF-9 for almost 2 years. I didn't have a problem with shooting it at the range, it was accurate and the recoil didn't bother me but I typically shot slow fire. Once I started practicing drawing and engaging with rapid fire I found I was sacrificing a lot by carrying a pistol that just wasn't big enough for me to get a good grip on. YMMV, I have large hands.

My compromise pistol is the Walther PPS. I can shoot it IDPA style almost as good as a Glock. It fills my hand but its still slim and small enough to conceal very well. The S&W Shield would probably have done the same for me but I bought my PPS just before the Shield came on the scene.

One more thing, I'm convinced slim single stack guns are the way to go. Aside from the obvious comfort and concealability advantages, everyone should carry a 2nd mag for reliability reasons and the low round count pretty much forces you to. Carrying a second single stack mag is cake, whereas carrying a second double stack mag pretty much requires a second holster.

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Dupe, no delete option.

 

Keep all your other guns, buy the new one your looking at and let's go shoot more.