This is a bad thing?

 

Yeah. That program looks like it stinks all over. Fingerprints? How about using the technology that exists to find a missing child in real time. It's there. Why hasn't anyone implemented it? Fingerprinting our kids by law enforcement. They have to be kidding. It's a joke........ Big time....... That is all.............. Dave

 

Yeah pretty invasive

 

This is a bad thing?

I see your concern about how a program like this couldn't be a bad thing. But fingerprints? What kind of quick and easy access to information could be gained by law enforcement? Parents have things at their disposal called Birth Certificates. People put chips in their pets so they can be identified by vets and animal shelter personnel if their pets go missing. That is old technology. I have to admit, fingerprinting kids is a very bad idea.

But I see where you are coming from. It just doesn't make sense to me with today's tech.

 

They had this kind of thing when I was a kid (20+ years ago). I remember it was a whole kit with current photo, stats, finger prints. It was a missing kid profile in case you were abducted or whatever. It was optional then too, offered as a service.

 

This is a bad thing?

you might just be right. Freely give a dna sample also. If you are gonna start a "file", might as well do it as early and complete as possible

 

I call -I like chicken-. over stepping their bounds

 

you might just be right. Freely give a dna sample also. If you are gonna start a "file", might as well do it as early and complete as possible

I agree. How could it go wrong?

 

We had our kids fingerprinted 20 years ago and we kept the fingerprints. I see no issue with this.

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Considering they have recovered 2500 missing/runaway children during raids on sex trafficing operations, I have no problem with it.

http://blog.missingkids.com/post/56795201973/the-national-center-for-missing-exploited

http://www.take25.org/~/media/Take25/ResourceDocuments/Child_ID_2013-EN.pdf

 

well then, why just for the "children". If its such a good idea, why not do it for everybody?

 

Kidnapping children is a big buisness and the first thing a child abductor does is to desguise the child, different clothes, hair color, cutting hair etc. Do you know what they can't disguise?


But if you think that every thing that the government does is designed to personally bring you down, who am I to argue?

 

This has been an identification program that's been going on for nearly as long as finger printing has been a "technology". Even before Orwell wrote 1984....
It's not some sinister "big brother plot"

 

Kidnapping children is a big buisness and the first thing a child abductor does is to desguise the child, different clothes, hair color, cutting hair etc. Do you know what they can't disguise?

But if you think that every thing that the government does is designed to personally bring you down, who am I to argue?

will the police stop and finger print every child that crosses paths?

It just doesnt seem right to give up so freely to the state of "what if fears".

 

We had our kids fingerprinted 20 years ago and we kept the fingerprints. I see no issue with this.

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We did the same thing, they took photos of the kids and put them on cards for us and put the fingerprints on the cards. We kept all the info and I think we still have them around somewhere.

 

IF the parents get the only fingerprint card, fine. Then it can be a useful service and the parents can decide to turn them in if a child is missing. I did that 30 years ago and still have the cards. If the police insist on keeping them on file, NO F'in WAY.

 

I'd still like to know what the "Quick and easy access to information" thing is all about. No one on here would argue against a program that would assist a mother/father or parents from recovering their abducted child. But it doesn't make any sense. We are far beyond that as far as tracking tech goes. I want someone on here to explain to me how fingerprinting a child will protect them from being abducted or assist with a rescue.

I understand the "photograph I.D. card" program. My wife and I participated in the same program for both of our children. However, fingerprints............ No way.

I agree with the above statements: If the legal parents/guardians are the only recipients and possessors of the child's fingerprints, then that is all fine and dandy. But if any records of such prints are kept outside of the parental guardian's physical possession, then No Deal. It's a crock full of crap with ill intentions.

 

I was fingerprinted in 4th grade under the same type of program, while here in Charlotte.

 

Ok guys I must just be missing something here, What is the conspiracy to take the kids finger prints? Is it that they could be used to identify them at a crime scene in 10-20 years or some nefarious scheme about taking them and putting bar codes on their necks?
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Ok guys I must just be missing something here, What is the conspiracy to take the kids finger prints? Is it that they could be used to identify them at a crime scene in 10-20 years or some nefarious scheme about taking them and putting bar codes on their necks.

Nope. Not that. It's all about the government that none of us can trust at all. There's no conspiracy here. The program probably has good intentions. Just like the Patriot Act and all of the other government programs that are in place to protect all of us "good law abiding citizens"..................... Then it get's perverted into something else............ By the "all protective" government that has our best interests in mind........ Not........... I can't explain it in anymore detail than that.

 

All I'm saying is the fact that the technology exists where we can do better to protect our children. Taking fingerprints isn't it. Maybe 10 or 20 years ago........ But not now. I still want to hear how fingerprints of our children can protect them. Yes..... It may reveal the location of their bodies...... after the fact. Why not put something in place with the technology we currently have, and have had for many years, to track down an abducted child? Holy shit........... we can do it with an automobile... why not our children?

 

okay but What do you think they can do with a finger print? Now look I don't trust the government about a lot of things. But what do you think they could do with a finger print that they couldn't just do? Other than identifying you what else is it used for at any point in your life?
The guberment has a 3d printer that can print finger prints on a piece of film to plant in the book depository to frame you for killing jfk, type thing? Yeah that sounds plausible too but come on. It just sounds far fetched and obsurd especially as a few are pointing out it has been going of for years.

 

With a digitized data base it would make it easier to identify and get the profile,picture,info,identifying marks of the child not just the finger prints to the street level officer in thier car,cell phone in the matter of minutes not hours it could help find the child.
What they did for us is put all the information on a flash drive which would cut the time as well.

 

We had our kids fingerprinted 20 years ago and we kept the fingerprints. I see no issue with this.

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That is the way the program is supposed to work. It really is no big deal as long as these are not kept "on file" with anyone but the parents. I am former LEO and recommend this along with the parents keeping frozen DNA swabs in the freezer from your child. While they can get matching DNA from the parents it is even better to have it direct. If you are that worried about it just go to your local LEO and ask for the kit or a set of finger print cards (tell them what for) and do it yourself with a simple ink pad from any office supply store.

Either way this is not some program to start collecting finger print and DNA samples for LEO to keep on file they give you the cards to keep for yourself.

Someone asked how finger prints could help the police. Lets say they have a basic ID of a suspect. (ie white male 5'8" in his 40s salt and pepper hair, driving a gray Honda Accord) They stop a person matching this descrption ibecause of an Amber Alert and the officer notices a book bag like your child was carrying in the back seat. The officers is able to detain the suspect maybe because the car is stolen and the matching description and probable cause. They finger print the car and find maching prints of your child thru utilizing the "technology" you were taliking about. They did this because you were able to give the officers your finger print card you had on file at your house. Now they wer able to track where this guy lives and found your child alive. Yes, I know this may not be as simple as ABC like in this situation I give but I think you get my point. The finger prints were able to speed the process in getting an ID on the finger prints found on something like a car.