I usually like to pick fairly busy locations, but out of the crowds. I have done them in McDonalds parking lots out back, sports store parking lots, Walmart parking lot, etc. I just do the deal in the bed of my truck or keeping it in my front seat and not flashing it around. That way, both sides feel safe, but yet not drawing attention to yourself. Especially if you do it in a sports store parking lot, it seems more normal to have a gun around there anyways.

 

If there's a Sheetz in your location those are always good spots in my opinion. They have a lot of security cameras and its a fairly busy place. Managers at Sheetz I know of, are aware of the laws in NC and know you can do public firearms sales. They have never said anything to me at the ones I go to. My wife works at a Sheetz in Kernersville. She said folks have tried snitching on others doing guns sales at her Sheetz. And the manager will kindly school them on NC laws and leaves them alone.

 

I bought a revolver in that very location.

 

This concern is part of the problem. The gun control fanatics have us running scared and afraid to exercise our rights openly. If the trade/sale you are conducting is not illegal, why try to hide it in any way? Pick a convenient location for both parties. Do not be afraid to examine the firearms in the open. Of course common sense handling of them will be used.

 

If any of you think, even remotely, that a convenience store is a good place to do a gun transaction you must be out of your mind.......

 

if your sellig have them come to your house if buying go to their house

 

That's what I've always done. In My driveway. Not hiding the fact that there are other people around, watching.

 

I like meeting at gun shops, the downside, at least for my wallet, is I go in and spend money LOL.

 

I've found grocery store or Lowe's parking lots convenient. Discretion is advised, so that the Karens of the world don't call the police for "brandishing a firearm"... out of a truck bed or SUV wayback is typical.

 

I sold a pistol a few months ago advertised on this site. Took about 2 days. Anyway, I checked out the person and made sure he had a concealed carry permit and/or permit to purchase. That was by the advice of my FFL. After checking out the person (easy because he was well known). we met at a location between both our towns that was busy (that's the key), and completed the sale. I have copies of the Bill of Sale, his Concealed Carry Permit and License in a secure location....

 

You must deal with idiots, no way in hell your getting that much info from a sane, reasonable person. And you VERIFIED his CCW?? BS......

 

At the sheriff's department, they have cameras everywhere or call your local office to ask them for an officer to stand by for the trans action

 

Me and a regular met once at a gas station in-between our locations just off the interstate. He was there about ten minutes before me, and the place called the cops on him for loitering. SO he moved to another one across the street. We parked dude by side, joked, and left without much delay. Moments later he called me and said he was being followed. Cop followed him right to the county line. But that's been the worst of it after all these years.
I'd rather not meet at someone's house or at mine. Done it once or twice. It's too inequitable. Lowe's is a fav although sometimes they're a bit off the interstate.

 

I am a Conceal Carry Instructor, but something has always bothered me. Once a person gets their C.C.W permit, it is good for about five years. If the dude then goes on a killing spree, he can still walk into any gun store, or otherwise present his C.C.W. and purchase a firearm without question. Until the law catches up with them, and physically takes that permit, there is never any questions asked.

 

Feral liberals murdering people by the boatload with stolen guns... but you're worried about the guy who goes thru the CCW background check process.... jeez...

 

my gun, my rules. You don’t like it, who GAS.

 

There are no regulations restricting private firearms sales as of yet (other than tiny BS government "suggestions)........I have yet to figure out why people are so dead-set on insighting rules on firearms perchases that dont even exist. The government will eventually get around to regulating every aspect of private sale possible so why not actually enjoy your freedoms while you still have them. I see this on so many gun sales. Especially the "CCW required for purchase"......NO....its isnt. This is America.....yes if you want to require something before someone buys something from you it is ABSOLUTELY your right to do so. But requiring a CCW to purschase a long gun privetely is like saying "Hey I'll sell you this 2010 chevy suburban as long as I can see your Food Lion Discount card first"......Makes no sense and has no legal validity. Feel free to do as you please.......we're americans.....its our right. BUT FOR HEAVENS SAKE STOP SUGGESTING THAT WE SHOULD ALL BE JUMPING THROUGH EVERY ATF, SBI, FBI AND GOVERNMENT HOOP BECAUSE YOU THINK THATS THE WAY IT SHOULD BE DONE.
Enjoy your freedoms while you still have them.

"Anyone who will give up a little freedom for a little comfort, deserve neither and will lose both"

 

There are no regulations restricting private firearms sales as of yet (other than tiny BS government "suggestions)........I have yet to figure out why people are so dead-set on insighting rules on firearms perchases that dont even exist. The government will eventually get around to regulating every aspect of private sale possible so why not actually enjoy your freedoms while you still have them. I see this on so many gun sales. Especially the "CCW required for purchase"......NO....its isnt. This is America.....yes if you want to require something before someone buys something from you it is ABSOLUTELY your right to do so. But requiring a CCW to purschase a long gun privetely is like saying "Hey I'll sell you this 2010 chevy suburban as long as I can see your Food Lion Discount card first"......Makes no sense and has no legal validity. Feel free to do as you please.......we're americans.....its our right. BUT FOR HEAVENS SAKE STOP SUGGESTING THAT WE SHOULD ALL BE JUMPING THROUGH EVERY ATF, SBI, FBI AND GOVERNMENT HOOP BECAUSE YOU THINK THATS THE WAY IT SHOULD BE DONE.
Enjoy your freedoms while you still have them.

"Anyone who will give up a little freedom for a little comfort, deserve neither and will lose both"

Actually, if WE had access to NICS, I'd agree. We could each just do a background check and sell or don't sell. And keeping that system up to date is on local and federal law enforcement. BUT, if you just sell to someone with no diligence at all... and they turn out to be a felon, or an FBI agent who lives in another state, you've just committed a felony. At the minimum, you need to see a drivers license for residency. Bill of sale also covers you if they kill someone and the ATF shows up at your door asking to see the gun.

 

Sell? A gun? Who gets rid of a gun?

 

Those of us who can't afford new toys without selling something else in exchange.

 

I know I am getting into this conversation a little late, but there are a couple rules and regulations you must follow: This only applies to NC (So if you are on here from SC or VA, YMMV) FOR HANDGUNS (Pistols and revolvers)you are required by NC law to obtain either a pistol purchase permit or a copy of a CCH even in a private transfer. This only applies to pistols and revolvers (NCGS 14-404). Failing to obtain either of these is a misdemeanor in NC. Now with that said, this only applies to handguns. You are free to do whatever you would like with the sale of a shotgun or rifle. Now common sense would dictate that you get some sort of ID hopefully. Although not required, you should consider it as it is going to be you they come to when they (Feds) do a trace on a firearm used in a crime or theft and the last person the paper trail goes to ends with you. Obviously you can hang your freedom and alibi on (Some guy in a small red pickup at the Sheetz on 70), but I personally would probably get a little more info. Now I am not saying that you should conduct a private party transfer through an FFL (a pretty good idea though to CYA), but if you choose not to, a bill of sale or something else that shows you did a little due diligence to not provide firearms to a prohibited possessor will go a long way when the three letter boys start talking "Straw purchase" and other things. So if you are an EDC person consider these things as a little insurance for not only your well being, but your peace of mind that you didn't just arm the next leftie commie school shooter when you sold your Keltec to some guy in the convenience store parking lot without any paperwork. Best of luck in your future acquisitions.

 

Keeping a copy of a Pistol Purchase Permit or CCH or its a misdemeanor is news to me.

I just read through 14-404 again and didn't see that. Which paragraph actually states that?
Thanks.

 

I also read through the entire 14-404. This is referring to permit issuants, reasons for or against receiving a permit, and all regulations required by a sherrif to issue or not issue a permit and also a few of the legalities of officers perchasing pistols and their requirements to do so. Have I missed something? I also am curious.

 

Why are these people giving out legal advice KNOWING its incorrect??? I had a police officer pull my ex wife over once and told her that she couldnt carry her pistol in her car with ammunition in the clip......not in the chamber.....the clip. He even went on to tell her that the clip and pistol had to be in separate areas of the car......what???? This was a POLICE OFFICER.........what is wrong with these people? And why are they KNOWINGLY spreading incorrect legal advice?

 

I want to see a pistol that takes a clip. In all my years. I've never seen one.

 

Years ago in Texas you could carry and gun you wanted to inside the vehicle as long as it was unloaded and the ammo was in the trunk or a place not readily accessible......NICE!!

 

I was curious and came across this during my research. It appears earlier posters showed 14-404 instead of 14-402 as is shown below.


"Sale of Weapons in Certain Counties.
N.C.G.S. § 14-402. Sale of certain weapons without permit forbidden.
(a) It is unlawful for any person, firm, or corporation in this State to sell, give away, or transfer, or to purchase or receive, at any place within this State from any other place within or without the State any pistol unless: (i) a license or permit is first obtained under this Article by the purchaser or receiver from the sheriff of the county in which the purchaser or receiver resides; or (ii) a valid North Carolina concealed handgun permit is held under Article 54B of this Chapter by the purchaser or receiver who must be a resident of the State at the time of the purchase."

 

Thanks for the information. These are very good to know. However safely and securely someone wants to sell a pistol is completely up to them, outside of the permit for transfer/sale of a pistol. The purchaser of a pistol would definetely want to do whatever he needed to, to cover himself if he were to ever get checked for the purchase of his pistol. However none of this covers long guns and doesnt apply....which is what was being stated earlier. Also.....just curious.....It says the buyer OR purchaser must attain the said permit. Well how in the heck are they going verify who is at fault in a sale of a pistol if either is required to but neither did???......Kinda makes me wonder who they would try to point the finger at later on down the road. Gotta love government specifics.

 

I posted because the statute presented and discussed (14-404) appeared to be the incorrect one for the conversation. So I figured that the statute which appeared the appropriate one (14-402) might be useful.

It (14-402) says "sell, give away, or transfer, or to purchase or receive". This to me means that the person purchasing or receiving the pistol has to provide a purchase permit or CHP at the time of the transaction, and the seller/gifter/transferred is expected to be presented with the appropriate documentation during the transaction. It is also seems to me that the seller being provided a purchase permit or CHP information is being shown by such that the person being "sold to" can legally possess a handgun. What the "seller" does with the information is their choice (in a private sale), but basic CYA seems reasonable to me.

I know a person that sold privately and maintained purchaser information and either purchase permit or CHP information. Approximately 7 years later the handgun was used in a crime by a person that could not legally possess the handgun. Since the store sale was to the person I know, the information led back to them. They provided documentation to LE showing whom them sold it to (which was not the offender in the incident) and the purchasing individual it was sold to was then known to LE. Obtaining and keeping the information from the transaction was very useful I believe.

 

So when they repeal the Sherrif issued purchase permit only people with CCP can buy a handgun thru private sale unless they go thru an FFL? Seems they gonna have to rewrite that law anyway.

 

it is NCGS 14-402. I apologize for the confusion.

 

You are right, they will most likely have to rewrite the law pertaining to purchase permits if and when they ever get around to getting rid of the permit process. There have been a couple revisions already to the law so i'm sure they will find the time in their busy schedule to correct this. Like I said in the previous post, you can do whatever you want obviously but in the interest of not getting in trouble for something stupid, it behooves you to keep a record of firearms sales. Having received a half dozen or so firearms trace requests over the past 10-12 years I can assure you there is a record of firearms transactions even if we don't choose to believe it or want it. I was just emphasizing you don't want to be the terminus of a trace for a firearm involved in a major crime.

 

Anytime I sold to a person with a Permit, I wrote "VOID" across the face of the permit with a permanent marker and returned it to the buyer. No LAW says I have to keep it and I sure as hell don't want to begin being a document depository.

 

Wow, really didn’t expect this to blow up like it did, but then again, it’s the internet. Ended up conducting the transaction in a Cabela’s parking lot and received a purchase permit, copy of drivers license, and bill of sale to make sure I was covered in selling a handgun. Worked well enough, and didn’t come across any Karens thinking we were brandishing a firearm and nobody batted an eye.