I have one, non issue IMO. Unless you have a closet full of tin foil hats...

 

I have one, non issue IMO. Unless you have a closet full of tin foil hats...

I don't like the tin foil hat crowd, but this seems a bit much. I don't know anyone in Law Enforcement that is actually "looking" for illegals (quite the opposite) so why start now?

 

I don't like the tin foil hat crowd, but this seems a bit much. I don't know anyone in Law Enforcement that is actually "looking" for illegals (quite the opposite) so why start now?

I was more referring to the idea that this is the first step in merging the US, Canada and Mexico into one union like the EU is.

 

what's on the chip that the barcode on the 'old' version couldn't hold?

 

If it's a big deal, it is pretty easy to kill an RFID chip. Just whack the licence on the back with a hammer a couple of times over the chip.That will crush the little antenna array and the chip itself, rendering it inert.

 

If it's a big deal, it is pretty easy to kill an RFID chip. Just whack the licence on the back with a hammer a couple of times over the chip.That will crush the little antenna array and the chip itself, rendering it inert.

I was thinking that putting it in the microwave would be fun

 

I was thinking that putting it in the microwave would be fun

That works too, about 5 seconds should do it. It might screw up the holograms in the outer layer too though. We nuked a graphics card (yeah, that annoying to get the drivers set up) once and the holograms warped and looked very odd.

 

or we could always wrap it in tin foil...

 

Their is seriously chips in our licenses? When did this start?

 

They make wallets that will block RFIDs. I've played around with some in class, and unless they are active RFID chips with their own power source (and they aren't), they don't work all that well.

 

So, tin foil aside, does anyone know the distance the license can be read? Assuming your license is stashed away in your standard wallet.

And no, I am not worried about a Canada/US/Mexico super state.

 

What all the detractors are missing is how this is the PERFECT SOLUTION to the illegal immigration problem. After we build "Berlin Wall II" and rig claymores all over it, then we use RFID chips on us, our persons, our possessions (damned eeeleguls are everywhere!) with this big neato database. Let em try a bellerin' Allahu akhbar with THAT in place! We can tie it in to Patriot Act compliance and use it if Bush, er, Clinton, uh, Obama, oh whoever it is... needs to suspend the constitution, habeas corpus and posse comitatus like all them neat little presidential directives (we call em "executive orders" you know, like the man said "stoke of the pen, law of the land, pretty cool"). I mean, it is the govenment's JOB to protect us all, isn't it?

That way, the government can track them, uh, us, uh, well, you know what I mean. I feel safer already!

Sorry, I have to go. Alex Jones is coming on the radio and you know I never miss a show.

 

Stick it in the microwave for about 4-5 seconds, no longer, and you'll fry any electrical chip on the license.

 

Your passport has the same thing in it...

 

My NCDL is due now. I like the hammer idea. :wink:

 

what's on the chip that the barcode on the 'old' version couldn't hold?

We may never know...

 

What all the detractors are missing is how this is the PERFECT SOLUTION to the illegal immigration problem. After we build "Berlin Wall II" and rig claymores all over it, then we use RFID chips on us, our persons, our possessions (damned eeeleguls are everywhere!) with this big neato database. Let em try a bellerin' Allahu akhbar with THAT in place! We can tie it in to Patriot Act compliance and use it if Bush, er, Clinton, uh, Obama, oh whoever it is... needs to suspend the constitution, habeas corpus and posse comitatus like all them neat little presidential directives (we call em "executive orders" you know, like the man said "stoke of the pen, law of the land, pretty cool"). I mean, it is the govenment's JOB to protect us all, isn't it?

That way, the government can track them, uh, us, uh, well, you know what I mean. I feel safer already!

Sorry, I have to go. Alex Jones is coming on the radio and you know I never miss a show.

I'm gonna' have to start keepin' a closer eye on you...

 

Well.......REAL ID Act: America's Next National Security Crisis
Proponents of the REAL ID insist that establishing a uniform national identification system will provide America with the most effective defense against terrorism that the world has ever seen, deliver unbeatable illegal immigration control and eradicate completely the crime of identity theft.


Proponents(?) who might they be???????
I do not see how this can be that perfect a system considering the monies most people who wish to destroy us are ablle to obtain. In other words, they can also get equipment and reproduce anything we come up with for their own personal use to thwart detection.

 

If it's a big deal, it is pretty easy to kill an RFID chip. Just whack the licence on the back with a hammer a couple of times over the chip.That will crush the little antenna array and the chip itself, rendering it inert.

done

 

I'm gonna' have to start keepin' a closer eye on you...

He knew somebody was watching him. And he's not paranoid either.

 

Can you see the chips on the license?

 

You want to see if there's an RFID chip? Have you license x-rayed.

If any such chip existed, it would be passive and rely on a reader to glean any info off of it. The range of detection would depend on the power of the reader. We use them for inventory control in our server farms and the range is about 6-8ft

 

It sounds like "Back Door" gun registration to me. They can track me all they want to but I do not want gun registration.

 

People worry WAY too much about RFID chips. They hold a bit of info..just like the barcode on the back. Sure, they can hold a lot more but so can a computer with a record about you referenced by the bar code. The range is very short. Non-issue.

 

People worry WAY too much about RFID chips. They hold a bit of info..just like the barcode on the back. Sure, they can hold a lot more but so can a computer with a record about you referenced by the bar code. The range is very short. Non-issue.

If it's a "Non-issue" then why put them on there at all?