I usually add a round count to my ad because I don't keep a gun long enough to put more than 100rds thru it. I've always got something up for sale or trade.​

 

amen brother! i shoot alot so usually round count is a bunch! but really how many is alot?
the only place i can see rd count is if selling a vintage or collectors item. just my 2 cent

 

I've seen some police trade ins look like smooth bores. Also, when it comes down to something up in price range like a FN bolt rifle that I may want to shoot competition with, well I don't want to invest in a new barrel from the get go.

 

Bless you

Bless you sir, this is something that people need to realize who purchase guns here. I guess it's a common sense thing... but thanks for saying it Stan.

Also I noticed people list for retail, are you insane? the moment you buy something it's devalued, unless you get something special and hold on to it for years.

I plan on selling a gun here shortly and I plan on putting it on here for below retail, why? because i've shot the thing over 250 times and it's time to pass it on.

Not everyone of these guns can be NIB or unfired. Trust me if the guns older than 15 years chances are someones fired it, this is just MO. As for round counts, I know plenty of people that write down the number of rounds they shoot out of each gun. I'm not this anal but some people can be.

 

I don't own many and don't shoot often - I know how many rounds have been put through mine, give or take 50 rounds.

 

The "round count" is a bunch of **** jargon in MOST circles, including prolly 99.9-100% of the people who sell items here. It started years ago with the "sniper" types who thought they needed to keep a record of the number of rounds fired thru their uber-accurate anti-personnel rifle. Some Hi-power shooters do/did it too.

the guys who actually DID/DO snipe for a living, or SERIOUSLY shoot hi-power, have a reason for doing it, mostly to judge barrel life or determine a point at which the rifle is "broken in". The internet gun guru`s use the term to sound "cool" or "tactical" . It has absolutely no use in an AK/FAL/16"AR type rifle. You can tell by looking at those if they`ve been used and abused.

Besides, unless YOU actually installed the barrel, or know EXACTLY who did, it`s a mere guess anyways..........

 

Sorry for those of us trying to give accurate descriptions offended you. I know how many rounds have been through my guns. I try to pass that information along to the buyer. But hey, feel free to not buy anything I sell.

 

Sorry for those of us trying to give accurate descriptions offended you. I know how many rounds have been through my guns. I try to pass that information along to the buyer. But hey, feel free to not buy anything I sell.

1. Did you buy them all NIB?
2. Do you know how many rounds the factory fired?

Besides, my laugh is at all the "tacticool" types on the net who use the term "round count".

 

1. Did you buy them all NIB?
2. Do you know how many rounds the factory fired?

1. Yes. If I didn't I say so and don't give round counts.
2. No. But I don't say total. I say "I've fired 200 rounds". If the factory does 5 I doubt anyone cares. The idea is to give a grade or notion of usage. A gun fired 50 times will be in different condition than one fired 5K times.

 

Sorry for those of us trying to give accurate descriptions offended you. I know how many rounds have been through my guns. I try to pass that information along to the buyer. But hey, feel free to not buy anything I sell.

+1 to the above. Counting rounds also helps to keep track of things like preventive spring changes, etc.

Chris

 

+1 to the above. Counting rounds also helps to keep track of things like preventive spring changes, etc.

Chris

Exactly. If I buy an AR-15 with 5K rounds through it I'm planning on swapping the bolt. Just lets me know.

 

Sorry for those of us trying to give accurate descriptions offended you. I know how many rounds have been through my guns. I try to pass that information along to the buyer. But hey, feel free to not buy anything I sell.

+1
For every new rifle I've purchased I have the exact round count. If I rebarrel a rifle I obviously start the round count over. If I buy a used rifle I start the round count with 0 and add my rounds and note that the original round count was unknown.

Round counts do have value especially if you shoot competition with various calibers that can be barrel burners. Many competitors have a maximum round count based on history of the various calibers and loads they are shooting. Assuming the barrel doesn't go south before the count gets to the historical limit, the competitor will normally continue to shoot that barrel until the accuracy falls off. If they plan on shooting an important match and the barrel is nearing its historical limit they will rebarrel rather than taking a chance on the barrel going south during that match.

 

Exactly. If I buy an AR-15 with 5K rounds through it I'm planning on swapping the bolt. Just lets me know.

i see your point, but there are alot on here and other boards that really have no idea how many or might tell a fib for a sale

 

I think the folks I've dealt with here are generally pretty honest. I've made some great deals both buying and selling. If someone here gives me a round count, I take them at their word. Why would I assume they're fibbing?

 

i see your point, but there are alot on here and other boards that really have no idea how many or might tell a fib for a sale

I wouldn't trust an unknown on like ar15.com but I know a lot of people on here and have no reason not to trust them. Plus, a good visual will atleast give you an idea of outright lying.

 

I wouldn't trust an unknown on like ar15.com but I know a lot of people on here and have no reason not to trust them. Plus, a good visual will atleast give you an idea of outright lying.

id say thats the key look and know what your looking at. and yes everyone ive met on here has been good no flunkies. but cant say that about other boards

 

Match shooters keep very good count on rounds fired usualy in a data book so we know when to change bolts barrels and springs. We don't sell our rifles very often and almost never to anyone that we don't shoot matches with.
Darrell

 

Count me in as one of the folks who know exactly how many rounds have been through the pipe. I keep handwritten records that I transfer to a MS Excel spread sheet on every firearm I fire. Yes, I am that anal. I'm also a good business man and instructor.

My round counts are accurate.

 

I look at round count as a general barometer of the wear on a weapon. But only a general measure. You can generally tell, at least in handguns, whether a gun has been used a lot or is nearly new/pristine. And in that later case, it's worth a little extra in the purchase price. But, the difference between 2000 rounds or 5000 rounds would be hard to tell...

I'm a bit like another person posting here -- many of the guns I sell haven't been shot that much by me, and they're generally low count guns. I have guns with higher counts, and they'll continue to go up. I keep the ones I like and shoot them, and sell the others -- but that doesn't mean there's something wrong with them. (I sold three SIGS recently that just didn't ring my chimes... one, a GSR, was a fine weapon. The other two were DAK triggers, and heavy ones at that... I didn't like the triggers.)

 

i shoot F Class, its very important if buying an F Class gun..... for a 308 or 223 1000rds isn't that high, but when you jump in the Open class and guys are shooting 300WSM, and 6.5-284, 7mmWSM, those rounds will require barrel changes a lot sooner maybe 750-1200 rds depending on bullet weight, speed, powder, etc....

now those guys generally don't go out and buy a new barrel, they usually have the barrel chopped back 1/2 - 1 inch due to the throat erosion. When you demand match grade accuracy this stuff is important.


When i sell a firearm i try to give a general idea, ie i've fired the pistol approx 500 rds, i bought it new, etc.....

 

1. Did you buy them all NIB?
2. Do you know how many rounds the factory fired?

Besides, my laugh is at all the "tacticool" types on the net who use the term "round count".

When I sent my new pistol in for warranty work, I knew that I had exactly 288 rounds through the gun when it broke.

When the factory rep sent it back the report said that he had fired 16 test rounds through the gun. So yes I know what the factory did.

New Remington 700 rifle has exactly 20 rounds to set up the scope.

Just sold my G- 30 to a friend and had nearly 1800 rounds through it.

My G-34 has about 2400 rounds through it.

My AR only has 300 rounds through it.

I do have a few used guns and I have no idea how much the previous owners shot the guns, and would not lie and say I did. Life's too short to be trying to cheat people.

 

I agree, its good to give some kind of idea of a round count but an accurate count isn't necessary. Would help to know if it may need some work/parts swapped out. Other than that, I dont care.

I know exactly how many have been fired in my lcp. I'm still on the first box. Im afraid Ill shoot it all and not find more. I have a good idea on my glock 26, its kinda new. I can ball park it. I have no clue on my g19. Its 10 yrs old. several rounds per yr. Id say 8-10k range, Dont matter to me, I'm driving it until the wheels fall off.

 

If I was to sell a firearm on this forum, I would provide a "round count" to any potential buyer. It might not be precise but at least be honestly accurate........
Its no different than buying a used car.
But more importantly, I find any insinuation of fellow forum members of "fibbing", rather insulting.
This is a member's forum, not some New York City flea market.......

 

my 9mm has over 5K rounds though it... it looks exactly the same as it did when it hit the 500 round mark... i honestly tried to keep track, but after running a match with it, i gave up... there was no way to keep up with what i was shooting along with everything else that was going on at the match... as for what i see on posts and adds here and other places... unless it is a match gun, i dont believe it...

 

I don't worry about round count, given the bore looks good, with just a couple exceptions:

As a buyer, if it's a weapon chambered in a caliber known to be hard on barrels, it's nice to know how much use it's had. Things like .22-250, .220 Swift and some of the hot magnums.

As a seller, I don't make note of it unless there is a good chance the piece is unfired, or I happen to think it's unfired.