I need some recc. for a scope for my SKS. I have an NC Star on it now (it's the 3-9x42 P4 Sniper illuminated... I may sell it, or may put it on an AR .410 that I'm working on building), and that scope worked just fine before I put the bullpup stock on. But now with the bullpup stock installed, the eye relief is no good. I don't want a red dot, but rather something with some magnification for longer shots. At least 4x and preferably more. I like the lighted reticle. The key though is something with around 4.5" or more of eye relief. Looking for some suggestions that I can check out. I'd like to keep the price around $200, but not sure I can find what I need without spending more.
Scope Recc for an SKS Bullpup
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I need some recc. for a scope for my SKS. I have an NC Star on it now (it's the 3-9x42 P4 Sniper illuminated... I may sell it, or may put it on an AR .410 that I'm working on building), and that scope worked just fine before I put the bullpup stock on. But now with the bullpup stock installed, the eye relief is no good. I don't want a red dot, but rather something with some magnification for longer shots. At least 4x and preferably more. I like the lighted reticle. The key though is something with around 4.5" or more of eye relief. Looking for some suggestions that I can check out. I'd like to keep the price around $200, but not sure I can find what I need without spending more.
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You have went bull pup and need long eye relief, want illumination, and you want magnification.
Answer is a Red Dot with a magnifier.
Only thing though, it's a little much for the cheap SKS imo, although they do make some Chinese magnifiers that are pretty cheap.
Viper PST might would meet your needs as well as a Burris Mtac, they have 3-4 inches of relief. Leatherwood CMR is OK for the money 200 dollars, but doesn't have the eye relief you want.
At 200 dollars you don't have a lot of decent options in optics with all the features you want such as long eye relief, illumination, and reliability.
I would just put a Nikon or Vortex duplex reticle hunting scope on it (Reliable scopes) in a 2-7x32, with a scout mount and be done with it. After all the duplex reticle is all you need with 7.62x39, not like your going out past 300 yards.
Answer is a Red Dot with a magnifier.
Only thing though, it's a little much for the cheap SKS imo, although they do make some Chinese magnifiers that are pretty cheap.
Viper PST might would meet your needs as well as a Burris Mtac, they have 3-4 inches of relief. Leatherwood CMR is OK for the money 200 dollars, but doesn't have the eye relief you want.
At 200 dollars you don't have a lot of decent options in optics with all the features you want such as long eye relief, illumination, and reliability.
I would just put a Nikon or Vortex duplex reticle hunting scope on it (Reliable scopes) in a 2-7x32, with a scout mount and be done with it. After all the duplex reticle is all you need with 7.62x39, not like your going out past 300 yards.
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The 223 BDC on the m-223 is not going to benefit you any on an SKS.
Just go with the Nikon Monarch 3, same scope, no 223 bdc.
You can get it in duplex or with a universal BDC reticle.
http://swfa.com/Nikon-Monarch-3-Riflescopes-C4957.aspx
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No, you don't have to use the 223 BDC. If it's cheaper, grab it. Decent scope.
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OK, thanks. But now I see they also have the M223 in a 2-8x32 and a 2.5-8x28 handgun scope (Force XR EER). I see no reason why either of these wouldn't work as well. And the handgun scope has tons of eye relief, so I wouldn't have to worry about not having enough with that one. Any reason a handgun scope wouldn't work??
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Actually handgun scopes in scout mounts are popular options for sks's.
You will need to scout mount a handgun scope (above the rear sight on an sks), instead of a side receiver mount, because of the extra long eye relief it needs to be forward more. It will not work at 4-5 inches forward as you described with the bull pup configuration, as you have to get a scout scope or handgun scope at least 9+ inches forward.
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OK. Thanks for the advice SB. The rear sight is removed on an SKS bullpup (on my style stock, at least). I'm thinking if I have to mount a handgun scope that far forward, it would be sticking off the front of the rail and look funky. So I guess I'll scratch that idea. That leaves me with either the 1-4x20 or the 2-8x32 M223's. I like having the extra power of the 2-8x, but don't like not having the 1x.
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You will not need 8x for 7.62x39 honestly. Anything past 300 is problematic. It's a decent 0-200 yard rifle. 1-4x would suffice.
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Agreed completely on the 'decent 0-200 yard rifle". I believe the drop I have is 12" at 200 yards, with a 100 yard zero. Depending on ammo, of course. I noted that after I first shot it. My notes say it could go to maybe 250 yards with a good scope. On the other hand, I'd rather have more magnification than I need than not have enough. I can always dial it back. But for use in close quarters (where the bullpup would shine), the 2x would suck. Decisions, decisions.
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Oh, forgot to ask... Nikon also has the 2-7x32 P300 and it's only $200. It has a "BDC SuperSub" reticle that is sat up for the 300 Blackout. It seems that may be the best deal for me. Since I can't use the .223 ballistics of the M223, I would think I would be just as well off with the one that's sat up for the 300 Blackout. It would save me a few dollars. Or am I missing something?
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I would rather be able to dial down to to a lower power. I carry all my scopes on the lowest power when hunting, and only dial up if needed ( which is only if the animal is completely still at about 150-200 yards). 1x-2x will be more important for fast close range target accusation, than 8x will be at 200 yards. 4x at 200 is plenty.
Using hunting as a practical example, When I hunt hogs, I need 1 or 2x because it is up close in wooded areas, and they can be moving. A 3-9x scope would make things harder. 1-4x makes things much easier on 1x, and if I step out into a field, the 4x is plenty for large game out to 300. Your not going to be target shooting with an SKS in bulls eye comp, or shooting past 200 often, so you don't need the high magnification past 4x to make hits or even hit vital areas on large game.
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