[Chdamn]

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[NonamehaveI]

With 7+ billion people on this earth right now, and the number is increasing... I don't think the human race has got to worry about running out of babies anytime soon.

The idea that the whole purpose of humanity is to reproduce as much as possible is outright asinine.

To be fair the purpose of all animal species is to propagate and spread a and survive. And if you see humans as no better than any other animal this could be interpreted as a true statement. I like to believe as the only animal in existence with higher brain function we have evolved past our simple animal purpose, but that's just me.

 

[Guest]

Not trying to be a smart-ass, but is marriage still marriage if the man and woman are not religious. Or should couples that "swing" or have other beliefs, not be recognized?I really am asking seriously. Please know I don't mean this as a backhanded comment. I know that most have an issue of the government being involved. I honestly do not care what people do in their own lives. I am one of those that believe that views or beliefs should not be forced on others. As many liberals fight to abolish gun ownership, many conservatives try to abolish homosexuality.

This spawns many conflicts to me. Like the magistrates that refuse to marry same sex couples. Are they not obligated to do a job? Then again should they be exempt because of religious beliefs? This is the slippery slope of political correctness. Are we the society that is intolerant of others? That is like the businesses that refuse equal treatment of minorities prior to the 60's. We live in a world that is full of hate. I just don't think the government can wave its magic wand and make everyone get along. The hate will take many generations to change.

 

[fieldgrade]

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Go on.

 

[NonamehaveI]

I

I agree

 

[Converted Yankee]

Ok what does propagation of the species have to do with humanity?

Simply put, everything.

Well, the Octamom, for one agreed with you.

Btw, the rabbits in my backyard are going to be thrilled to have joined the ranks of humanity! Those f¥c<ers are the most human critters you're every gonna find!

 

[1406]

Homosexuals reproduce by marketing and solicitation. It's the only natural way they grow their numbers.

Ther

 

[NonamehaveI]

Homosexuals reproduce by marketing and solicitation. It's the only natural way they grow their numbers.

Ther

Lol is that how it works?

 

[Chdamn]

I always find it interesting when people get upset at being "judged". Typically it comes from people who have proclivities that fall outside societal or natural norms.

We all judge others. Whether it be the promiscuous house wife, the BDSM practitioner, the crooked politician, the homosexual or the guy doing death defying feats. Sometimes its just the person wearing a polkadot shirt with plaid pants.

As humans we form societies and those societies dictate through a collective mindset what is acceptable and what is not. Murder, theft and incest for example are forbidden now and all have been accepted practices in historical societies to one degree or another.

We generally judge things the most harshly that we either don't understand or go against either gods law or natural law depending on your persuasion. So humans and animals are generally programmed to eat, sleep and procreate. We all have a natural tendency to choose life over death.

So suicide bombers, death defying acts, suicides, murderers and yes...homosexuals seem to garner the bulk of judgement.

But much like the case of laws, your morality should end if my actions don't directly effect you. So morally opposed to murder....check. Suicide bombers.......check. Suicide? Not so much. Jumping a bike over the grand canyon? Nope. Being homosexual? Again I don't see how it effects you.

But that then brings us to another conundrum. If laws shouldn't be made to outlaw opposing moral standpoints, should it be made to legalize and normalize them?

And while we're on that train of thought, does legalizing things like gay marriage effect society as a whole? It does lead to other things like adoption etc. While someone may practice BDSM at home does it negatively impact society for them to walk their submissive down the street on a leash? That may seem obtuse but I think it's a fair question.

I'm no sociologist so I cannot answer the questions I posed and even they won't be able to answer them for at least 2 generations.

I have no morality dog in this fight. My opposition to this ruling is exactly the same as Silver Bullet's. But I do ponder the questions I posed and it will be interesting to see the outcome.

 

[gunbelt]

Answer:
She's still around with her pal.
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Homosexuals reproduce by marketing and solicitation. It's the only natural way they grow their numbers.

Ther

Yep!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[Chdamn]

Go on.

Lol. Sorry i hit send instead of backspace. I was going to delete it but it's funnier if I don't.

 

[fieldgrade]

Chad- I think from a purely objective standpoint your statements and questions are very reasonable. Perhaps I fear things that will never come to pass, but while homosexuality, and other behaviors that I deem to be deviant may not effect me at this specific moment in time, I do wonder what will happen in society where these behaviors are deemed to be acceptable, or worse, actively promoted as they already are becoming and the participants are no longer just a small vocal minority. It will not stop here with this recent decision.

None of us has a crystal ball but I fear for our society.

 

[NonamehaveI]

Chad- I think from a purely objective standpoint your statements and questions are very reasonable. Perhaps I fear things that will never come to pass, but while homosexuality, and other behaviors that I deem to be deviant may not effect me at this specific moment in time, I do wonder what will happen in society where these behaviors are deemed to be acceptable, or worse, actively promoted as they already are becoming and the participants are no longer just a small vocal minority.

None of us has a crystal ball but I fear for our society.

Isn't this similar to the anti gun stance of, it hasn't happened yet but...? If not how is it different?

 

[jrgreen]

As far as I know, there isn't a sub species or hybrid humans. Your argument is flawed because we are all human, regardless if you have children, cannot have children, or do not want children.

How do you explained the children that were conceived by gay parents, if they are not human? Many of their parents were living false lives because of fear of being ridicule. Currently, many homosexuals are having children by donors (male and female).

Saying gays are not human is bologne, and this same argument was used before to justify evil intentions in the world.

Children of gay parents are born without a soul!

 

[fieldgrade]

Isn't this similar to the anti gun stance of, it hasn't happened yet but...? If not how is it different?

No, because as a social conservative I think it is wrong now, and I do not view it as acceptable, now. I was just viewing it through Chad's perspective as to what might be a future outcome.

 

[NonamehaveI]

No, because as a social conservative I think it is wrong now, and I do not view it as acceptable, now. I was just viewing it through Chad's perspective as to what might be a future outcome.

Ok I am still not seeing the difference, you think it is wrong now, and do not feel it is acceptable now. What is the future outcome that your hypothetical person fears? Does that mean you feel you should be able to legislate away something that you don't like?

 

[gunbelt]

http://patdollard.com/2013/07/it-begins-pedophiles-call-for-same-rights-as-homosexuals/

Ity's what has been the plan all along.

And it begins!!!!

Curt

 

[NonamehaveI]

http://patdollard.com/2013/07/it-begins-pedophiles-call-for-same-rights-as-homosexuals/

Ity's what has been the plan all along.

And it begins!!!!

Curt

It seems that some fears are not unfounded

 

[fieldgrade]

...Does that mean you feel you should be able to legislate away something that you don't like?

Hmm, "something I don't like". That makes it sound like "a color I don't like", or a "flavor I don't like". I have been avoiding this topic for the most part because I end up having to answer questions that to me seem to have painfully obvious answers.

You say, "something I don't like."

I say, "It has been considered to be sin for thousands of years by those who follow my Creator. Whether others choose to believe in Him or not is between Him and them. I simply do not wish for a society that openly accepts, even embraces these things that my maker deems to be wrong.

 

[NonamehaveI]

Hmm, "something I don't like". That makes it sound like "a color I don't like", or a "flavor I don't like". I have been avoiding this topic for the most part because I end up having to answer questions that to me have painfully obvious answers.

You say, "something I don't like."

I say, "It has been considered to be sin for thousands of years by those who follow my Creator. Whether others choose to believe in Him or not is between Him and them. I simply do not wish for a society that openly accepts, even embraces these things that my maker deems to be sin.

So you are saying that you believe that we should legislate everyone in the country to only follow Christian values, regardless of their belief system?
Does that include mandatory church services? What kind of punishment do you think the local government should meet out for premarital sex? Have you never done anything that could be considered sinful by your creator? And if so what do you think the legal penalty should be?