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Trump picks up 16% of the black vote

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#65 ·
Don't believe any of the big media. IF Trump gets that much of the black vote he could win easily.
I personally believe Trump has much more than 16% of the black vote.

Also, Bubba Clinton didn't do Killary any favors recently by strongly suggesting importing more Muslims and Giving them jobs rebuilding Detroit.
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Just look at Drudge. - Up +2 in FL, up +4 in OH, up +3 in PA. - Notice that they keep saying he's losing, but each day he goes up and up and up. It's a trend. In PA alone he's pulling 30% of both the black and hispanic vote.
 
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Is this said tongue in cheek? - the Vegas line was +530 last wk and it has closed substantially since then. Considering the spread is fed by wagers, and the wagers are driven by false MSM propaganda (just look at Brexit) I should have put down.

Prior to the GOP nomination he was 150 to 1.

The gap keeps closing.

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And this is where I am having serious issues. Do y'all recall this point in the last election? Sure, the republicans were voting but it was a foregone conclusion that Obama was going to win. This feels so much different. For him to be that far behind in so many polls, he sure has a lot of people voting. There is a mismatch between what the MSM is saying and what we are seeing.
 
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The media has been in active voter suppression mode for months. They have forgotten that the reason their plan to put "easily defeated Trump" on the ticket failed. Turns out the previously silent majority just may be tired of their game.
I wonder home many people lie in the polls as well. No to mention the highly skewed sampling.
Didn't the polls the media published in 1980 have Carter winning? And we all know how that went.
 
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The media has been in active voter suppression mode for months. They have forgotten that the reason their plan to put "easily defeated Trump" on the ticket failed. Turns out the previously silent majority just may be tired of their game.
I wonder home many people lie in the polls as well. No to mention the highly skewed sampling.
Didn't the polls the media published in 1980 have Carter winning? And we all know how that went.
While I think there are a lot of issues in polling, the bottom line come November 8 is "we'll see."

As for Reagan-Carter, Reagan was ahead from May straight through the election. Carter significantly closed the gap until the last debate, then the wheel came off his campaign.

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Rolled into my early voting place here at the Library in Madison/Mayodan, all proud of myself today. Sign out that said early voting is over at that location. So if I wanted to vote early, have to drive to the county seat. Guess I will just wait for election day.
 
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Why would they. The demo's are so good at working for the "community".

Guess it'll be the same old, same old.

She's been spouting the same crap for 30 years why would anyone believe it?
 
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Also....Killory is just 4 more years of Obama except on steroids. Curious if the black community is happy with Obama's policies for the last 8 years and if it those policies have been good for them and the economy in general.
Or 8 more.....................

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Remember fellas...when talking about polls and statistics, it's all in the eye of the beholder. How 'bout we do a gun ownership in America right here on this forum. Bet we'd get some pretty good results. Now, give CSC a microphone that's loud enough to reach the masses of sheep in the country, maybe we could even leverage those bogus poll results to make people less uptight about guns and realize they're pretty darn prevalent in the country. So flip the tables: the media knows which poll results to release and which not to. Not a single friggin person on this planet will convince me otherwise to the fact that the mainstream EVERYTHING (not just the media: I'm talking media, pop culture, elite culture, celebrities, musicians, bloggers, vloggers, EVERYONE) is trying to derail Trump's election. It's akin to the "common sense gun control" bullshit they've come up with in the past year or two--you MUST be an idiot if you can't understand "common sense" gun control. They're manipulating the direction of public opinion.

My point is that those with the microphones loud enough know what power they wield, and wielding it this election they are. All in hopes of suppressing votes for their self-determined wrong side. That's bullshit, with a capital shit.
 
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To be clear, BOG asked me the question me the question and I attempted to provide and answer based on what I hear resonate with people. Those points weren't mine and we're actually take from her website as the ones most commonly listed as important. You don't have to agree with any of it and it wasn't meant to become a discussion over who's right and who's wrong so no need trying to argue that shit with me.

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To be clear, BOG asked me the question me the question and I attempted to provide and answer based on what I hear resonate with people. Those points weren't mine and we're actually take from her website as the ones most commonly listed as important. You don't have to agree with any of it and it wasn't meant to become a discussion over who's right and who's wrong so no need trying to argue that shit with me.

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I appreciate the insight. Thank you.

If we could all just have an open discussion I'm sure things would be much better than the way they are now. Finger waiving and the ineptitude to listen to what people are saying, and getting all bent out of shape because of what "he said" and "she said" is diving us faster than ever before.

We went from what used to be:
God, family, country

To:
My God
My family
My country

And then to:

Accept me!
Tolerate me
It's all about me...
 
#54 ·
It's a great idea but it'll be difficult to pull off for the very reasons I mentioned. We are not a country of equals so it will always be a situation where EVERYONE is wanting what's best for their own interests. That's human nature and ain't no changing it.

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Speaking of taxes, I'm a small business owner. My small business is small based on the number of employees we have. But the type of product and our customer base, makes the business look very large when you look at the financials. My brother and I, who both own the business, have always taken good care of our employees. Our business is a sub-chapter S corporation. Now both my brother and I do live comfortable lives financially because of the business we built these past 30 years.... no doubt. We go out of our way to make sure our people are taken care of as well. The employee who has the longest tenure with the company is black. He's been with us from almost day one. He's a great employee. But that's beside my point.

My quarterly tax payment to the state and fed, just a single quarterly mind you, is more than half of the purchase price of the first new home my wife and I bought in 1990. That's just my single quarterly, not including my brother's which is the same amount. That first house was priced at $96,000.00. The April tax bill amount is staggering.

I just posted that to put an end to the thought that small businesses don't get taxed as much as others. Most small businesses are S-Corporations. The shareholder/owners get taxed personally on the revenue generated by the business, regardless of whether they take the money out of the business or reinvest it back into the business. Some may argue, "Well look at the deductions you get to take on capital expenditures." My answer to that is, it takes major cashflow to handle a large enough capital expenditure to make a difference, and if the cashflow isn't there, then you go into major debt. That's not a good thing for a small business.

Some of my wealth was acquired through some forethought (aka saavy financial decisions) outside of the business. I started heavily investing in my kid's futures before they were born, for example. I have been ever since my daughter, who is my first of two, was born in 1994. I continued that with my son who was born in 2000. The property my large house sits on, I purchased in 1995. I paid off the property prior to building and moving into the house in 2005. The downpayment on this property I purchased in 1995 came from a CD that I had from some smart loans that I got against the original CD on some motorcycle purchases that held or raised in value before I sold them.

However, my point is, small businesses pay more than their fair share. My apologies for rambling on.
 
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Great info which gets to the point I was making. The companies out there larger than yours are paying a smaller effective tax rate than you are. Small businesses are just like middle class in that you are getting hammered with taxes while the big boys are able to work many more loopholes to not pay as heavily. This isn't about the amount of the payment so much as the percentage.

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#73 ·
I'm confused... 16% or 1.6%? I'd bet my life on the number being FAR closer to the latter. Why does anyone here believe 1 out of 6 black folks will vote for this carnival barker?

CLUE: "THE Blacks", excuse me, "THE African-Americans" understand bigotry, direct insults and dog whistle crap like "law & order". From my dealings, most aren't too keen on the unconstitutional Stop & Frisk BS either. Maybe you guys know better though. [emoji848]
 
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I'd bet your life that it's less than 1.6%. But my bet on your life doesn't do anything to help the black community. My next comments are very telling in my opinion: Liberalism and Socialism is a cancer in this country. The wealthiest and most powerful proponents for Liberalism and Socialism are caucasian and not black.

However, an overwhelming percentage of black folks support these ultra-wealthy, powerful, and caucasian proponents for Liberalism and Socialism.

So I agree with you. There's no way 16% or even 1.6% of blacks support Donald Trump.

Why this is true, I'll never understand.
 
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you would bet someone elses life, mmmmm , stop and frisk is not a favorite of many that believe in the constitution. your wording reminds me of hillary speak. IMO I think that when the donald stops and thinks about stop and frisk a little more it will be excised from his mind method of fixing crime.jobs jobs jobs is a positive for crime reduction competition from illegals is a positive for crime reduction. industry brought back to this country would help the poor and oppressed .reduction of govt corruption in all branches of govt but i think law enforcement and judicial system would improve the lives of people throughout all levels of American citizens. there is so much to be fixed i could go on and on. I believe the minorities that will be voting for trump is much much more then the media or hillary supporters will admit too. my opinions only, tear away dems.
 
#76 ·
you would bet someone elses life, mmmmm , stop and frisk is not a favorite of many that believe in the constitution. your wording reminds me of hillary speak.
Step back and think again. Nowhere in my post above did I agree with or even mention "Stop And Frisk". As far as the betting someone else's life comment, the member in question said it himself, not me. If my wording reminds you of Hillary speak, that's your problem, not mine.
 
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What is so amazingly sad to me is that for over 50 years the "black" vote has been strongly democrat. For over 50 years they have felt that Democrats will speak to their issues. And over 50 years later the main centers of crime, corruption, violence, and decay are in Democrat run cities and communities. So you should ask yourself honestly "Do they >really< care? Or are they just stringing us on because they need our vote?" Doing the same thing over and over again while expecting a different outcome is the definition of insanity.

I once read a great idea for the "black" community. Their main issue is that the Dems feel they have their vote locked down, so they offer only lip service. The Repubs know that courting the black vote is a lost cause. So why bother. So, blacks >should< vote in mass for the republicans. It would scare the Dems into realizing they have to actually follow through on their promises, and it would shock the repubs into realizing how much of a voter base they can enjoy if they pay more attention.

But...won't happen. Because believing a lie that sounds good and is comforting beats out cold reality.

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I only think stop and frisk should apply to Presidents, Vice Presidents and their families. After the Clinton's stole a bunch of stuff when they left the White House I think it is important to make sure no future occupiers do the same thing with OUR things.

And how are DUI checkpoints legal? What up with that?
 
#96 · (Edited by Moderator)
Apparently some of you are just complete moral superiors, levitating above the rest of us for not voting for Trump. That's all fine and good, except you're acting by inaction, and you will not be held guiltless. You can whine and b***h about stop and frisk all you want, but Trump isn't attempting to federalize local police forces by partnering with the UN like the bitch is.

Some of you just don't get it and never will. Whether it be law enforcement, economy, global trade, or whatever the hell else, it all makes too much damn sense for you to grasp. Adams said it best when he claimed our constitution was only designed and would only work with a civil society.

Globalism, economic wars, currency manipulation, complete lack of sovereignty, loss of the BOR...you can disagree with Trump on things here or there, but ultimately, these things are all what you face when you allow an HRC presidency.
 
#98 ·
...you know, so we have gentleman in this thread arguing why the black population isn't voting for Trump; "why would they" - perhaps they one day should wake up and realize that they're individuals, protected by the constitution, and they don't have to think as a collective anymore. Maybe one day they wake up and realize, "hey, maybe doubling black unemployment, 70+ percent black babies born without daddy, 50%+ black babies murdered every year by abortion," = but no, keep voting the same way. For the same tired and pathetic banter that has elected every democrat since LBJ.

Really, really not making a great case for intelligence.

 
#99 ·
"Protected by the constitution" in the very same thread we are discussing a candidate who is in favor of nationalizing something unconstitutional? Strong case for intelligence there I suppose.

"Why would they" is valid. Do some outreach, support policy positions that don't discriminate and nominate a decent candidate and the GOP might actually approach double digits with the black community.