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Video We Were Never Supposed To See

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#1 ·
Secretary of State John Kerry introduces Retired Admiral "Ace" Lyons to speak at a private meeting. He probably regrets doing so. It is a litany of lost opportunities to change the course of history in our battle with Islam. What he says regarding Erdogan's, the President of Turkey, views is revealing. His statements regarding Obama confirms what many of us already believe. Recorded February 11, 2015. This video may not be up and view-able for long.

http://www.liveleak.com/ll_embed?f=51fe948515b4
 
#4 ·
Liveleak videos never work for me. What was he saying?
 
#7 ·
I hope "Ace" has a good accountant and attorney because I am sure the alphabet soup police will come calling soon to give him a good ol "check up".
 
#11 ·
and you know…there are probably many more Admiral Lyons in service right now. The shame of it is, we castrate their ability to do what they have trained to do for years. That is another view of what all of the politicians do to America so they can benefit, and how it threatens the US.
 
#12 ·
Remember that current administrations put "their guys" in positions of power when it comes to promoting 4-star (and other) general officers, as well as secretaries of the armed services. The guys running DoD now are Obama's "guys," and not necessarily guys who will put the troops first. Out of all the services (and I'm retired Navy), I probably respect the USMC generals more than the GOs in any other service. IMHO, they seem the least political, and the most "honest" when assessing any situation. Just look how each service handles "politically correct" tasks/assignments/recommendations from the administration, and you'll see how I came to that opinion.
 
#13 ·
good point. Im not military, so forgive my ignorance. Isn't there Admirals, Generals, etc, that have been career folks that do not change with administration? Or are you referring to the more "white collar" military. If that makes sense.
 
#14 ·
Actually both.

On the civilian side of the military, there are "career" SESs, and there are "appointed" SESs. (SES - Senior Executive Service, the civilian equivalent of generals/admirals.) The latter are directly appointed by the administration. The former isn't quite as political, but it is definitely political. As for the generals/admirals, I'm talking more towards the 4-star guys/gals. Those are the ones that get the most "scrutiny" by the administration. The administration gets "their guys" into the big jobs. It isn't a "you're out, our guys are in" kind of thing like appointing the secretaries, but when a job comes up, you know the administration's guys are getting slotted into the job. If there is a general that constantly "locks horns" with the administration, it's not uncommon to see them being asked to resign, and the replacement will be someone more willing to work with the administration (even at the expense of the troops).

Don't be too surprised to find if the administration thinks a certain general/admiral may become too popular with the American public, they may dig until they can find a way to convict that person of a felony. That's a recent occurrence in the DoD's political game. I don't think it's ever happened before this president came into office.

Just look at the Navy (and probably other services too) spending a crap load of money doing "global warming" studies (among other "politically correct" projects/decisions).
 
#16 ·
I'll have to look at it when I get off work...and download it.

Others need to DL it, too...so it can be reposted ad infinitum on youtube and such.

:D
 
#19 ·
Downloaded it on my laptop. Only a 17 meg file.

Search youtube for Admiral Ace Lyons. You'll find this and several other videos as well.
 
#20 ·
I probably respect the USMC generals more than the GOs in any other service. IMHO, they seem the least political, and the most "honest" when assessing any situation. Just look how each service handles "politically correct" tasks/assignments/recommendations from the administration, and you'll see how I came to that opinion.
My time in the Marine Corps showed otherwise, and I know plenty of people that cut their Marine Corps careers short because of the politically correct stuff coming down the pipe and being shoved down their throat.