[MrSnow]

TO the original poster MOVE to SC or somewhere else NC stinks with all their gun restriction crap.

To the rest of you guys all the legal crap is making my head spin. One sec he can own it then another sec he cant or he can own but not buy. Like i said NC is screwed up whith their gun laws.

 

[MrGloCc]

OK, so Lumber-Jack, you are going to have to provide proof of your statement that you have to be in the presence of the person who owns the gun. I've read every NC law pertaining to firearms and have never seen this. I'm going to call BS unless you can prove it.

You can purchase a firearm in NC when you are 18-20. You have to get a purchase permit from your county sheriff, which may be difficult, but is possibe. There is nothing preventing your approval. You are not able to purchase from a FFL, though private party is perfectly legal.

The straw purchase you referenced is not legal in any way.

Criteria to qualify for the issuance of a permit.
(a) The sheriff shall issue a permit to an applicant if the applicant qualifies under
the following criteria:
(1) The applicant is a citizen of the United States and has been a resident
of the State 30 days or longer immediately preceding the filing of the
application.
(2) The applicant is 21 years of age or older.

You have to be at least 21 to obtain a permit for the sheriff, this is one of the requirement one of my friend who turned in his application 3 days before he turned 21 still got denied... So this isn't true

I ran into similar situations when I used to work at Triad Gun Source. If your friend used his money (emphasis on "his") to buy a handgun to give you as a gift, no foul if you had no knowledge of the transaction. If you gave money to your friend to buy a handgun for you because you were ineligible, that is the straw purchase. That guarantees you less than first class accommodations at Club Fed. I remember an instance when two men came in and it was obvious who the handgun was for (fondling, drooling, etc.) They left. Later in the day, the eligible "friend" returned to purchase that handgun with his CHP (not from my class). We declined to sell him the handgun. Better to lose a sale than wind up in adjoining cells.

14-402. Sale of certain weapons without permit forbidden.
(a) It is unlawful for any person, firm, or corporation in this State to sell, give
away, or transfer, or to purchase or receive, at any place within this State from any other
place within or without the State any pistol or crossbow unless: (i) a license or permit is
first obtained under this Article by the purchaser or receiver from the sheriff of the
county in which the purchaser or receiver resides; or (ii) a valid North Carolina
concealed handgun permit is held under Article 54B of this Chapter by the purchaser or
receiver who must be a resident of the State at the time of the purchase.

So he cannot even give it to him.. The only way he can have it is a lawful reason to attend target practice or so.

being he can't even get a purchase permit he cannot even have the pistol unless its for target practice....

 

[JDriver1.8t]

^Under certain conditions you can get a permit before you are 21, which is stated on the forms.

NC still doesn't specify that you have to own the gun you carry.
If you are legally allowed to possess a firearm, you are able to carry it.
18+ can OC.

 

[Chall08]

ok thanks everyone for all of the advice. to the ones who thought i was trying to argue my point or be stupid on the board you are incorrect and i am sorry if i came of as being that way. i was just seeking advice trying to find out if it was legal for me to carry or not. my gun will be going back into my dad's gun safe (the one who bought it for me) and i will only have it out when i go to the range to practice.

lumber jack thank you for your advice i am really wanting to become a police officer i start blet feb. 1st so i'm not going to let this gun mess up my chances of that.

to everyone that thinks i am a dumb kid who is just trying to find a way to bend the rules and laws i am not i promise. i am a responsible young man who is just trying to get information on what i want to do to make sure that i am NOT breaking the law.

 

[Lumber-jack]

ok thanks everyone for all of the advice. to the ones who thought i was trying to argue my point or be stupid on the board you are incorrect and i am sorry if i came of as being that way. i was just seeking advice trying to find out if it was legal for me to carry or not. my gun will be going back into my dad's gun safe (the one who bought it for me) and i will only have it out when i go to the range to practice.

lumber jack thank you for your advice i am really wanting to become a police officer i start blet feb. 1st so i'm not going to let this gun mess up my chances of that.

to everyone that thinks i am a dumb kid who is just trying to find a way to bend the rules and laws i am not i promise. i am a responsible young man who is just trying to get information on what i want to do to make sure that i am NOT breaking the law.

This is the response that should shut everyone up, my man did the right thing.

In reference to my earlier post whenever I said firearm I meant "handgun" sorry for the confusion... you can purchase a rifle at 18 and carry it all you friggin want.

To those of you who want to call BS or want me to quote case law you can pound sand... I'm in court once a month every month and I didn't scribble down State V whoever when it happened just for you.

Chall, welcome to the forum and kudos to you for coming to a place where you'd get a straight answer, if theres anything you need to know, chances are someone here will have some good input.

I wish you the best of luck in BLET, stick with it!

 

[mekender]

To those of you who want to call BS or want me to quote case law you can pound sand... I'm in court once a month every month and I didn't scribble down State V whoever when it happened just for you.

All I wanted was some source info that showed that you had to have the gun owner present. Far as I knew you didnt and i can find no law saying different. But then again it is hard to research things while pounding sand, my bad...

my gun will be going back into my dad's gun safe (the one who bought it for me) and i will only have it out when i go to the range to practice.

Since it was your father that bought it, I suspect that legally you can carry it without any problems. The problem most people had was the way you worded things which made us think that there was a crime happening. There are several LEOs on this forum that are regular posters, they very well may be legally obligated to report anything they see that seems to be a crime. That is not a hassle that anyone needs.

 

[llll1l1ll]

Honestly, if I were your age, and I had a handgun, I would not walk around with it open carry.

Nor would I walk around open carry at my current age. At least, around where I live it would be weird.

The point is that it seems like it's more trouble than it's worth. I would just wait a bit and get your concealed.

 

[gunn24]

Why carry the biggest POS ever made. When you open carry you ask for trouble to find you.

 

[eclipse13]

Why carry the biggest POS ever made. When you open carry you ask for trouble to find you.

I disagree with this on both accounts.

 

[chiefjason]

Here is the law for possession of a handgun by a minor being illegal. Minor is described as under 18. Where is the law making it illegal for and 18-21 yr old to possess a handgun?

Pound sand, your going to fire off advice about the law and not be willing to post a reference? Come on. The least you can do is reference it so others can make up their own mind. They don't have to listen to me or you. But if you post the link they can decide for themselves. I'm on the GS site as much as this one these days. If it is truly illegal I would love to know. I DO NOT want to give out bad advice on gun laws. But I'm not going to make the law up, or fill in blanks that do not exist.

Buying a handgun is illegal between 18-21, buying handgun ammo is illegal, possessing one (unless someone can provide a link) is not specified as being illegal. What is not illegal is then legal. Same idea applies to OC. Heck, look at 3. An emancipated MINOR can possess a handgun in their own residence.

§ 14‑269.7. Prohibitions on handguns for minors.
(a) Any minor who possesses or carries a handgun is guilty of a Class 2 misdemeanor.
(b) This section does not apply:
(1) To officers and enlisted personnel of the armed forces of the United States when in discharge of their official duties or acting under orders requiring them to carry handguns.
(2) To a minor who possesses a handgun for educational or recreational purposes while the minor is supervised by an adult who is present.
(3) To an emancipated minor who possesses such handgun inside his or her residence.
(4) To a minor who possesses a handgun while hunting or trapping outside the limits of an incorporated municipality if he has on his person written permission from a parent, guardian, or other person standing in loco parentis.
(c) The following definitions apply in this section:
(1) Handgun. - A firearm that has a short stock and is designed to be fired by the use of a single hand, or any combination of parts from which such a firearm can be assembled.
(2) Minor. - Any person under 18 years of age. (1993, c. 259, s. 1; 1994, Ex. Sess., c. 14, s. 5; 1993 (Reg. Sess., 1994), c. 597, s. 1.)

If you do choose to OC under 21 I would really get into the reasons why you can carry. I would see you as more likely to get some negative LEO attention than I do. I'm 36, no question about whether I can legally possess a handgun per my age. Check this site out too.

http://opencarry.mywowbb.com/forum41/

 

[Outlaw450r]

Here's my take on the subject and these are my finding and yours or others may differ. My first car was a 5.0 mustang and I was a **** raiser in it. I was pulled over numerous times since the time I was 16-21. I never had a handgun with me until I was 18. Between the time I turned 18-21 I was pulled over by the following departments NCHP, NCDMV, MAPD, SCSD and VASP. I never had an issue whatsoever. When the officer approached the car and asked for license and reg. I informed him/her I had loaded handgun laying on the center console. Some of them asked to hold it until the traffic stop was complete and some of them just said OK. However I didn't open carry the gun on my side anywhere other than on our property. When I was away from the car I locked it in the glovebox. The handgun in question was a Glock 26 that my father bought and let me borrow, so far I haven't returned it. I was actually going to give it back to dad but he died a few years back.

 

[jones21290]

Yeah, I have this problem too. I have a year and two months to wait but I'll be going about this the right way. Going over Christmas break to get my CCW class out of the way, then as soon as I turn 21 I'm gettin the license and probably a Glock 19. Heck, until then, I'm just buying parts and accessories for it and shootin my buddies at the range. Open carry makes no sense if you can't have ammo.

 

[bahamadave]

ok thanks everyone for all of the advice. to the ones who thought i was trying to argue my point or be stupid on the board you are incorrect and i am sorry if i came of as being that way. i was just seeking advice trying to find out if it was legal for me to carry or not. my gun will be going back into my dad's gun safe (the one who bought it for me) and i will only have it out when i go to the range to practice.

lumber jack thank you for your advice i am really wanting to become a police officer i start blet feb. 1st so i'm not going to let this gun mess up my chances of that.

to everyone that thinks i am a dumb kid who is just trying to find a way to bend the rules and laws i am not i promise. i am a responsible young man who is just trying to get information on what i want to do to make sure that i am NOT breaking the law.

If you are indeed starting BLET on 2/1/2010 how are you going to take the state exam? You must be 21 years old to sit for it, is your birthday later this month?

 

[alamo28630]

Does anyone else find it strange that we have had some new people coming on and asking questions about things that are illegal? This one is about a straw purchase.

It happens on all gun forums, I dont understand why someone would do something illegal than post it on a forum.

 

[Chall08]

If you are indeed starting BLET on 2/1/2010 how are you going to take the state exam? You must be 21 years old to sit for it, is your birthday later this month?

no you don't you have to be 20 there are agencies in north carolina that will hire at 20 years old

 

[bahamadave]

no you don't you have to be 20 there are agencies in north carolina that will hire at 20 years old

If it is 20 then they have dropped the age then, you had to be 21 by or on the date you took the state exam.

 

[soreshoulder]

I think Bahamacop's signature says it all, lol.

Part of me just wanted to say that I don't want someone this immature and stupid carrying a badge and a gun, then I look back at some of the stuff I did when I was that age, and then I'm sort of inclined to say give him a break...

My 22 yr old son is starting Forsyth Tech next month and is considering being a cop, so I'm seeing this from multiple angles.

 

[jones21290]

Yeah, the age is 20 in Rocky Mount. My friend who s 20 years old was issued an M&P.

 

[chiefjason]

So, if you are a 20 yr old cop and you are allowed to CC under the LEO exemption, how do you buy your CC gun. hehe NC is a love/hate relationship for me anymore. I love the area. I hate some of the crazy laws.

14‑415.25. Exemption from permit requirement.
Law enforcement officers and qualified retired law enforcement officers authorized by federal law to carry a concealed handgun pursuant to section 926B or 926C of Title 18 of the United States Code, who are in compliance with the requirements of those sections, are exempt from obtaining the permit described in G.S. 14‑415.11. (2007‑427, s. 3.)

 

[WNC Seabee]

....and shootin my buddies at the range.

I hate internet typo nazi's....but..... I think you meant "...and shooting my buddy's at the range"

TOTALLY Different ! = )