You wouldn't be referring to personal responsibility would you, the kryptonite of liberals

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Painful truth that no one wants to hear. The author gets it...and so do I, every time I'm around my boys and I can feel their tractor beam gaze soaking up anything and everything I do. In my opinion, there is no greater responsibility in the world.

 

It would be an interesting sociology study to review murderers, especially murderers of random people rather than folks that kill friends/family/self, and their parental status. I'd want to know if the home was simply divorced with dad still involved (like my dad was) vs. cases where dad was non-existent.

 

This is a good time to bring up this great documentary:

 

It would be an interesting sociology study to review murderers, especially murderers of random people rather than folks that kill friends/family/self, and their parental status. I'd want to know if the home was simply divorced with dad still involved (like my dad was) vs. cases where dad was non-existent.

That would be interesting but hard to do. Some fathers are there but still absent?

 

My sister in law is a single mom, and i can say that that boy will end up in jail one day. He is only 8 but has NO respect for other people, their belongings, and is always doing dumb things to get in trouble. He really needs a dad, but knowing the dad, I don't know which would be better.

 

I grew up without a father but one thing I did have was a Big Brother (Big Brothers/Big Sisters of America).

Like a second family to me.

 

My sister in law is a single mom, and i can say that that boy will end up in jail one day. He is only 8 but has NO respect for other people, their belongings, and is always doing dumb things to get in trouble. He really needs a dad, but knowing the dad, I don't know which would be better.

The data is pretty clear. When raised by single mothers, boys are on the order of 5x more likely to be juvenile delinquents.

Can't talk about this though because that would go against the politically correct glorification of single motherhood in this country.

 

Another great thread. Thanks for sharing drypowder. I told my wife right after the shooting in CT that the shooter's dad lived in another state. Not to say just because a boy grows up without a Dad he's going to turn out to be a murderous monster. But I personally feel that if this maniac's Dad would have been in the picture, his Mom would have had better support to get him some help.

 

The data is pretty clear. When raised by single mothers, boys are on the order of 5x more likely to be juvenile delinquents.

Can't talk about this though because that would go against the politically correct glorification of single motherhood in this country.

That must have been why my 2nd grade teacher told my mother I would be a JD, now Im a teacher, and shes dead!

Im surely not saying that a positive male role model is not good for a boy growing up, its crucial.

 

Im surely not saying that a positive male role model is not good for a boy growing up, its crucial.

Crucial for girls too. Girls who grow up without their father tend to be more promiscuous than girls who are raised by their father; and with that comes increased likelihood of single motherhood.

Of course this comes as no surprise to any guy who has a lot of dating experience.

 

I've never seen any data on that subject, but many of guys I've run into that seems to always be having some sort of personal or legal problem, grew up without a dad. I've met a few like that who grew up without a mom too.

I've met a few that despite growing up in a single parent home, they were able to get their act together. I've got a few situations like that in my family. My cousin Bradley's mom is a drug addict that sleeps around to support her habit. I thought Bradley was headed down that road too, but last I talked to him, he was going to college in Wilmington.

 

Children need both parents, its really that simple. A mother is too soft and a father is too hard. I see it all the time with my son and I know that he is getting what he needs from us together but it would be damn near impossible to give both equally.

Divorced does not mean absent. And married does not mean present.

Present means having an active roll in the day to day of your child. It can be made harder by divorce but not impossible.

 

So, if you're a married man with children, and you find out your wife is cheating on you and is also treating you like crap, if you divorce her, should the government ensure that there are no guns in the household where the children/child are/is being rasied? or should you be required to stay married if you want to keep your guns?

Ultimatley, what this all boils down to is the fact the the mother should of known better to keep her guns in a secure location so her son couldn't get to them. It's not rocket science.

 

So, if you're a married man with children, and you find out your wife is cheating on you and is also treating you like crap, if you divorce her, should the government ensure that there are no guns in the household where the children/child are/is being rasied? or should you be required to stay married if you want to keep your guns?

Ultimatley, what this all boils down to is the fact the the mother should of known better to keep her guns in a secure location so her son couldn't get to them.

Uhhhhh, yeah.......I think you need this.

If you're going to play the game you should do it on a regulation mat.

 

Uhhhhh, yeah.......I think you need this.

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If you're going to play the game you should do it on a regulation mat.

Somehow, you've offered an eloquent response. Good work.

To Joe, you gotta think just a wee bit harder on this one. It's not a "skim the surface and form an opinion" topic. It's the core of our society (and its current downhill gradient).

To the folks referencing data and statistics for kids (boys and girls) without fathers, I'll refer again to the Absent documentary. He spells it all out for you in addition to providing some really deep interviews with examples of the absenteeism. I caught wind of it since it features James Hetfield of Metallica as an interviewee. His dad took of at an early age and James has been one of the lucky ones who escaped the black hole and turned it into something promising (musical preferences aside, the dude's a millionaire now and raising what appears to be a pretty good family).