first thing is that u passed the "attitude test".......please remember your experience next time you hear someone beating up on an LEO...happy holidays !

 

ccw

many times courtesy and willingness to accept responsibility will get you out of trouble... but usually not with troopers.
have you bought a lottery ticket today?

 

A trooper gigged me about 2 years ago, showed him my CCW,(didn't have it on me at the time) and was polite about it. I got the same warning ticket, although I thought mine was yellow

 

Re: ccw

many times courtesy and willingness to accept responsibility will get you out of trouble... but usually not with troopers.
have you bought a lottery ticket today?

Most of the NCSHP Troopers I know won't write a ticket for anything less than 15 over unless the "customer" is a dickhead. Act nice and it's all warnings.

(At 15mph over the limit and driving at least 55mph it is a mandatory Drivers License revocation for 30 days... so don't pay it off, go to court and get it reduced.)

 

I personaly do not write tickets unless you are doing 15 over....I may stop you for as much as 10 over but if everything else (registration, license, inspection, ATTITUDE) is good it will not cost you anything but time......but...at 15 over...I dont care if you are the pope himself...you will hold one.

 

The troopers that sit in front of our firehouse (35mph zone) normally won't pull anyone unless they are doing 20 over, but if they turn on the blue lights... someone is gettting a ticket.

 

I have received more than my share of discretion from the HP and local LEO's. I always show respect and do things to keep us both safe. I pull off the interstate to parking lots when possible, or WAY off the highway, turn interior lights on at night, ect.

We have a great group of LEO's in Johnston County.

 

attitude is definitely key...

there are some exceptions though... back home in FL, there were a couple of cities that funded their 4th of july and new years fireworks displays with traffic ticket revenue... pretty much everyone that got pulled over got a ticket, and they would pull em over for as little as 3 mph over.

 

attitude is definitely key...

there are some exceptions though... back home in FL, there were a couple of cities that funded their 4th of july and new years fireworks displays with traffic ticket revenue... pretty much everyone that got pulled over got a ticket, and they would pull em over for as little as 3 mph over.

Troopers in Florida are, by and large, jerks. I hate to make sweeping statements, but I've had similar "3 mph over" experiences and spoken w/ many others who have as well.

Back to the topic at hand - I got pulled over a couple of months ago in my go-fast by an NC trooper. Since I was on my way to the range, there were some long guns and ammo boxes clearly visible in the back. I made sure my hands were clearly visible to the trooper as he walked up and immediately informed him that all my firearms were in the back. I received a warning for 60 mph in a 45 mph zone.

I think it's mostly attitude and where you are - I was polite, and I was on a country road. I didn't do anything to make his job more difficult. It also probably has something to do with how the trooper's day is going too.... .

 

A respectful attitude, an admission of guilt, a pleasant demeanor, and a CWP have gotten me out of a few tix.

Line police "get it" when it comes to CWP. The politico "brass" downtown.....maybe not as much.

 

i dunno, i can agree with all of the above except for admitting guilt...

im not going to deny things because that is lying... but i will say "i dont know"

 

attitude is definitely key...

there are some exceptions though... back home in FL, there were a couple of cities that funded their 4th of july and new years fireworks displays with traffic ticket revenue... pretty much everyone that got pulled over got a ticket, and they would pull em over for as little as 3 mph over.

Troopers in Florida are, by and large, jerks. I hate to make sweeping statements, but I've had similar "3 mph over" experiences and spoken w/ many others who have as well.

Back to the topic at hand - I got pulled over a couple of months ago in my go-fast by an NC trooper. Since I was on my way to the range, there were some long guns and ammo boxes clearly visible in the back. I made sure my hands were clearly visible to the trooper as he walked up and immediately informed him that all my firearms were in the back. I received a warning for 60 mph in a 45 mph zone.

I think it's mostly attitude and where you are - I was polite, and I was on a country road. I didn't do anything to make his job more difficult. It also probably has something to do with how the trooper's day is going too.... .

So the Troopers are "jerks" for citing you for comitting a crime? :roll:

 

So the Troopers are "jerks" for citing you for comitting a crime? :roll:

For pulling people over for going 3 mph over the limit? Yeah, I'd call that being a jerk. I believe the term for that is penny-ante. I'd also suggest that calling that a crime is penny-ante.

I'll stand by my statement that the quality of troopers I've seen in Florida are not so hot.

 

Pulling someone over at 3mph over is not penny ante...depedning on where it is done and what the circumstances are. After all it is exceeding the posted speed limit. I know of a department that had stopped someone here a couple weeks ago for 9 mph over....they got 10 oz of marijuana out of the vehicle.

 

attitude is definitely key...

there are some exceptions though... back home in FL, there were a couple of cities that funded their 4th of july and new years fireworks displays with traffic ticket revenue... pretty much everyone that got pulled over got a ticket, and they would pull em over for as little as 3 mph over.

Troopers in Florida are, by and large, jerks. I hate to make sweeping statements, but I've had similar "3 mph over" experiences and spoken w/ many others who have as well.

Back to the topic at hand - I got pulled over a couple of months ago in my go-fast by an NC trooper. Since I was on my way to the range, there were some long guns and ammo boxes clearly visible in the back. I made sure my hands were clearly visible to the trooper as he walked up and immediately informed him that all my firearms were in the back. I received a warning for 60 mph in a 45 mph zone.

I think it's mostly attitude and where you are - I was polite, and I was on a country road. I didn't do anything to make his job more difficult. It also probably has something to do with how the trooper's day is going too.... .

So the Troopers are "jerks" for citing you for comitting a crime? :roll:

when speed limits are instituted for political reasons and in order to make money... that goes against the very idea of a government that is supposed to serve the people.

 

just remember, no amount of speeding will keep you from being late if you LEFT for your destination late.

if you get stopped on the way, you ARE late.

 

i dunno, i can agree with all of the above except for admitting guilt...

im not going to deny things because that is lying... but i will say "i dont know"

Its worked for me.

They always ask "Do you know how fast you were going?"

I'll give an honest estimate of my speed.

If I know I was over, I'll say "What can I say, sir? I was over the speed limit."

Its simply an argument you aren't gonna win. So might as well just give the honest answer. (Not to mention that being honest is the right thing to do anyway)

Like I says, its worked for me. They have always just told me "Slow it down, OK?"

"Yes, sir. Will do."

 

i dunno, i can agree with all of the above except for admitting guilt...

im not going to deny things because that is lying... but i will say "i dont know"

Its worked for me.

They always ask "Do you know how fast you were going?"

I'll give an honest estimate of my speed.

If I know I was over, I'll say "What can I say, sir? I was over the speed limit."

Its simply an argument you aren't gonna win. So might as well just give the honest answer. (Not to mention that being honest is the right thing to do anyway)

Like I says, its worked for me. They have always just told me "Slow it down, OK?"

"Yes, sir. Will do."

if you say that, you loose a great bit of your ability to fight the ticket in court... after all you have already admitted to guilt...

 

i dunno, i can agree with all of the above except for admitting guilt...

im not going to deny things because that is lying... but i will say "i dont know"

Its worked for me.

They always ask "Do you know how fast you were going?"

I'll give an honest estimate of my speed.

If I know I was over, I'll say "What can I say, sir? I was over the speed limit."

Its simply an argument you aren't gonna win. So might as well just give the honest answer. (Not to mention that being honest is the right thing to do anyway)

Like I says, its worked for me. They have always just told me "Slow it down, OK?"

"Yes, sir. Will do."

if you say that, you loose a great bit of your ability to fight the ticket in court... after all you have already admitted to guilt...

yeah, well I guess I have a problem with fighting a ticket when I KNOW I was over, be it 3 mph or 20 mph. It's something I have inside me, I think it's called INTEGRITY??? If I'm wrong, I admit it.

And bitching about getting a ticket for going "just a little over the limit", in my view anyway, is akin to bitching when the guy gets arrested who "only raped your sister a little bit". Right is Right. Do I speed? Yes I do. Do I bitch if/when I get a ticket? I'm not happy about it but I don't bitch. I know I shouldn't speed and I make a consious decision to not obey the speed limit. If it's an "accident" and I wasn't sure what the current speed limit is, then I deserve the ticket for not paying attention while driving a 2000 lb weapon down the road.

 

even though i agree with you, im still not going to admit guilt while an officer is conducting the investigation.

 

People that hid Jews from Nazis had no integrity and were dirty liars and criminals. :evil:

 

i dunno, i can agree with all of the above except for admitting guilt...

im not going to deny things because that is lying... but i will say "i dont know"

Its worked for me.

They always ask "Do you know how fast you were going?"

I'll give an honest estimate of my speed.

If I know I was over, I'll say "What can I say, sir? I was over the speed limit."

Its simply an argument you aren't gonna win. So might as well just give the honest answer. (Not to mention that being honest is the right thing to do anyway)

Like I says, its worked for me. They have always just told me "Slow it down, OK?"

"Yes, sir. Will do."

if you say that, you loose a great bit of your ability to fight the ticket in court... after all you have already admitted to guilt...

yeah, well I guess I have a problem with fighting a ticket when I KNOW I was over, be it 3 mph or 20 mph. It's something I have inside me, I think it's called INTEGRITY??? If I'm wrong, I admit it.

And bitching about getting a ticket for going "just a little over the limit", in my view anyway, is akin to bitching when the guy gets arrested who "only raped your sister a little bit". Right is Right. Do I speed? Yes I do. Do I bitch if/when I get a ticket? I'm not happy about it but I don't bitch. I know I shouldn't speed and I make a consious decision to not obey the speed limit. If it's an "accident" and I wasn't sure what the current speed limit is, then I deserve the ticket for not paying attention while driving a 2000 lb weapon down the road.

First off going 3 miles per hour over the limit is not a misdemeanor or felony it is an infraction of traffic law. Equating that to a violent felony (rape) is absurd. Can you be written for 3 over? Sure. Should the officer maybe show some common sense and warn you or maybe pull someone over who is going faster than 3 over? Absolutely. I'm not knocking any LEO but I mean really let's not overdo the seriousness of going 3 mph over the posted speed limit. And for that matter what would be wrong with "fighting" a ticket so your insurance rates don't go up? I don't know about you but I give my insurance company plenty enough money as it is and will do whatever is legal to keep my rates down. I guess that makes me a violent felon. :roll:

 

if you say that, you loose a great bit of your ability to fight the ticket in court... after all you have already admitted to guilt...

Of course, I'm not advocating admitting guilt when someone is innocent.

But I've never yet been pulled over for speeding when I was under the speed limit.

When I'm guilty, I admit guilt. Why should I argue my innocence when I'm guilty and i know it?

Rather, I'm pleading for mercy in my guilt.

my point of all that is..... IT WORKS.

Its not unlike man's relationship with God. We've all sinned. To argue our innocence is pointless. Rather, we should fear God's right to exercise His wrath, but also plead for and hope in His mercy. This is called "the Gospel." I'm a sinner. But because of Christ, I benefit from God's mercy.

My job is to stop sinning, thru God's power.

 

People that hid Jews from Nazis had no integrity and were dirty liars and criminals. :evil:

I assume that you were dripping sarcasm when you typed that. Lying to misdirect in war, killing in war, espionage in war were all ordered by God at times. War changes things. I think Grace would cover this.

 

Wow - Equating speeders to rapists, comparing police officers to gods, discussing the morality of standing up to genocidal National Socialists. This thread sure has morphed. I suspect it should be moved over to the Non-Firearm forum....