ATF Ruling on 3D Printed Guns
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I can't seem to get the file to download. Anybody else having trouble?
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Sen. Chuckie Schumer is working on a bill to prohibit the sale of the 3D guns.
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I have downloaded PDF on my phone. cliff notes you can make one if it can be seen by metal detector and you do not sell it. Just like any other firearm in individual makes for personal use.
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ATF Qs & As 3-D Printing of Firearms ATF Public Affairs For Immediate Release
(202) 648-8500 May 8, 2013
3-D Printing Technology of Firearms
1. Is ATF aware of the new 3-D printing technology producing firearms?
ATF routinely collaborates with the firearms industry and law enforcement to monitor new technologies and current manufacturing trends that could potentially impact the safety of the public.
2. What say does ATF have in the technology used to produce firearms?
ATF's regulatory and enforcement functions are focused on clearly defined by laws and regulations governing the manufacturing of firearms.
3. What is ATF doing in regards to people manufacturing firearms?
There are no restrictions on an individual manufacturing a firearm for personal use, as long as it does not meet the National Firearms Act (NFA) classification.
4. What will ATF do if a prohibited person is manufacturing a firearm?
When ATF receives credible information regarding the illegal manufacture of firearms, it will investigate and take appropriate action. If individuals neglect to follow federal laws and regulations surrounding firearms, ATF will investigate their activities.
5. What is ATF doing to make sure this technology is monitored so it is not used illegally?
ATF always tries to stay ahead of illegal firearms activity, novel firearms technology and firearms trafficking schemes while fully respecting the individual's second amendment rights.
6. Can an individual now manufacture large quantities of these firearms and sell them?
If he/she is engaged in the business as a manufacturer then that person has to obtain a license.
Public Affairs Division - Washington, DC
The term "engaged in the business" means- (A) as applied to a manufacturer of firearms, a person who devotes time, attention, and labor to manufacturing firearms as a regular course of trade or business with the principal objective of livelihood and profit through the sale or distribution of the firearms manufactured.
7. Can anyone make these firearms and sell them?
As long as an individual is not prohibited from possessing firearms, he or she can manufacture firearms. If he or she then wants to sell firearms, he or she is required to obtain a license.
8. Who can obtain a Federal Firearms License (FFL)?
ATF will approve the application if the applicant:
Is 21 years of age or older; Is not prohibited from shipping, transporting, receiving or possessing firearms or
ammunition; Has not willfully violated the GCA or its regulations; Has not willfully failed to disclose material information or willfully made false
statements concerning material facts in connection with his application; Has premises for conducting business The applicant certifies that:
o 1.the business to be conducted under the license is not prohibited by State or local law in the place where the licensed premises is located;
o 2.within 30 days after the application is approved the business will comply with the requirements of State and local law applicable to the conduct of the business;
o 3.the business will not be conducted under the license until the requirements of State and local law applicable to the business have been met;
o 4.the applicant has sent or delivered a form to the chief law enforcement officer where the premises is located notifying the officer that the applicant intends to apply for a license; and
o 5.secure gun storage or safety devices will be available at any place in which firearms are sold under the license to persons who are not licensees ("secure gun storage or safety device" is defined in 18 U.S.C. 921(a)(34)).
[18 U.S.C. 923(d)(1), 27 CFR 478.47(b)]
Under federal law, if an applicant for a federal firearms license or a manufacturing license meets all the licensing criteria ATF is required to issue that person a license.
9. How does one apply for a license?
Submit ATF Form 7 (5310.12), Application for License, with the appropriate fee in accordance with the instructions on the form to ATF.
10. If an individual manufactures an item that falls into the "any other weapon" category is that individual required to register the item? Yes, "any other weapon category" is an NFA classification which requires an individual to register the item with ATF.
11. What does "any other weapon mean?"
The term "any other weapon" means any weapon or device capable of being concealed on the person from which a shot can be discharged through the energy of an explosive, a pistol or revolver having a barrel with a smooth bore designed or redesigned to fire a fixed shotgun shell, weapons with combination shotgun and rifle barrels 12 inches or more, less than 18 inches in length, from which only a single discharge can be made from either barrel without manual reloading, and shall include any such weapon which may be readily restored to fire. Such term shall not include a pistol or a revolver having a rifled bore, or rifled bores, or weapons designed, made, or intended to be fired from the shoulder and not capable of firing fixed ammunition.
12. Is a firearm illegal if it is made of plastic and undetectable?
A person or manufacturer cannot produce an undetectable firearm as prescribed in 18 USC 922 (p).
"It shall be unlawful for any person to manufacture, import, sell, ship, deliver, possess, transfer, or receive any firearm-(A) that, after removal of grips, stocks, and magazines, is not as detectable as the Security Exemplar, by walk-through metal detectors calibrated and operated to detect the Security Exemplar; or (B) any major component of which, when subjected to inspection by the types of x- ray machines commonly used at airports, does not generate an image that accurately depicts the shape of the component. Barium sulfate or other compounds may be used in the fabrication of the component."
Barium Sulfate - substances that reflects x-rays. More information on ATF can be found at www.atf.gov.
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You can sell it after you make it. You just can't engage in the business of manufacturing firearms without a license.
No different than selling a kit gun (ak, fal's) after you built it and decided you don't want it anymore.
Lonely, you'd be retarded to sell a 'plastic' gun, you printed. Can you say liability issues
No different than selling a kit gun (ak, fal's) after you built it and decided you don't want it anymore.
Lonely, you'd be retarded to sell a 'plastic' gun, you printed. Can you say liability issues
I just read where the State Dept. told the owner to take the plans off his web site because of itar violations.
http://www.popsci.com/techn...-gun-plans
http://www.scribd.com/doc/1...istributed
http://www.popsci.com/techn...-gun-plans
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Would you have to engrave a serial # onto it before selling?
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Do you have a torrent downloading program? -
1) Download and install uTorrent
2) Go to kat.ph and search "defcad"
3) Download v4.2 - It's a 600mb file.
Took me 10min.
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Not sure, probably the same rule as Ares.
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That doesn't have Liberator, correct? Just the earlier stuff like the lower receiver, mag, etc., correct?
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I remember my instructor making 3D rubber band guns and also making a billet version on the CNC HAAS when I was in mechanical engineering. He always wondered if it was possible to make a real functioning 3D polymer gun like the carbon fiber ones you buy overseas from china. If you guys are not familiar with 3D models from printers that stuff is like concrete when it's finished.
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This gun is a POS and I would have zero use for it. I get that it is symbolic in what is trying to be achieved but if I used a 3D printer to replicate a steaming pile of feces, it is still just that.
Those folks that are concerned with a metal detector signature are clearly detached from reality as the gun is useless without metallic ammo. Now if someone figures out how to print live ammo, let me know.
Those folks that are concerned with a metal detector signature are clearly detached from reality as the gun is useless without metallic ammo. Now if someone figures out how to print live ammo, let me know.
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Agreed
Ok.
I'm no expert(at all), but:
1. The barrel is apparently smoothbore.
2. I am not in any way recommending this.
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Brass - Not necessary. Replace with paper or cardboard.
Firing Pin - Currently a metal nail. Make a plastic firing pin. Top with small piece of metal and flint.
Gunpowder - Use gunpowder, or finely ground alternative. I remember reading settlers would grind cottonwood fine for a gunpowder alternative.
Bullet - Wax casting or 3d printed bullet. Heck, you could use a ball. It's single shot.
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Nail firing pin, use primer.
It's single shot. A modern cartridge isn't necessary. Why not treat it like a muzzleloader?
I have a simple question, the ATF bans the diagrams from the internet but it is okay to get "How to Make a Bomb" from the internet search is not banned? Does it seems you need to both or neither? Maybe I am foolishly using common sense. I am more concerned about the bombs that can hurt many people than a single shot 22.
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Exactly. Some are not going to be impressed until you can 3D print a Glock. But I'm pretty sure dissidents in countries with strict gun control can see the potential of this very first 3D printed handgun.
Plus, as this information gets more widely spread, you'll have people modify the design and use it as a springboard into better designs. The Liberator is what Cody Wilson was able to come up with in x man hours. With the Liberator as a starting point, think of what hundreds or even thousands of people around the world, spending many multiples of the man hours Wilson spent on this, can come up with.
viva la revolution!!!
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You can make a complete mechanically working slide and trigger. Springs won't work those would have to be installed. And the printer will print the entire gun components and all.
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