I started a new thread rather than divert the other one. I'm not surprised at what happened in AL at all. College campuses are magnets for trouble. The BGs know that no one is armed. What's worse is that the students and faculty have been inculcated with the idea that to resist is wrong. I live in Durham and the students at Duke are getting the crap knocked out of them regularly both on and off campus. Less than half of the stuff that goes on makes the paper or TV. If i were a bad guy, I'd get me a nice suit and a lead pipe and I could make a fairly decent living.