I didn't realize they had patrol AR's. Interesting that they do but CMPD does not. Is that a locking device or a light/laser combo on the barrel?
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Concord PD AR's
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I was involved in a lock down on a college campus when a guy was mistakenly reported carrying a rifle in his bookbag. The guy was not on campus and nothing came of it.
With that said seeing first hand city police running around with ARs was a bit unsettling. It's not like they were reserved for a few, just about all the officers had one. It appeared to me most were not comfortable with the weapon and not trained nearly enough to be proficient. Just my opinion. If the officers who use the weapons are trained I guess that's the best you can ask for but it looked like an accident waiting to happen to me.
With that said seeing first hand city police running around with ARs was a bit unsettling. It's not like they were reserved for a few, just about all the officers had one. It appeared to me most were not comfortable with the weapon and not trained nearly enough to be proficient. Just my opinion. If the officers who use the weapons are trained I guess that's the best you can ask for but it looked like an accident waiting to happen to me.
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So have there been no situations in which a non-swat CMPD officer was confronted with a person with a rifle? I'm not sure of any here, but there was that recent shooting in Winston Salem in which four guys with at least one rifle shot up an apartment complex and later shot some random minivan on the highway. Had they been found and stopped I can't imagine I'd want to be an officer in that situation with only a handgun. I don't know whether WSPD has ARs or not, but the scenario comes to mind as a good example of why you'd want one.
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Yeah and another issue I could foresee is them issuing AR's to the officers and then being cheap when it came to providing them with "proper" training.
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M14's Full auto or Ruger Mini 14?
Last word was that HP had some M14 gun not many if any full auto being used in the state all semi.
Swat hat some at one time for larger citys.
Talking to a lot of the PD's in that area, most had no AR's..
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I agree for multiple reasons.
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No need at all.
They do not spend enough range time training, if one has them they all want them and some just can't flat shoot.....
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Uh yes. Semi is more than adequate. I can't think of any scenario sans the West Hollywood Shootout where even a 3 round burst makes sense for patrol officers.
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A Winchester m14 that the full auto has been disabled on. We got 10 of them for free from less which is a government agency. And yes full auto is useless and yes they do cheap out on the training.
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Training is definitely a concern with a carbine program. I don't agree with the "If you own one and can qualify with it you can have it on patrol" school of thought. I feel any PD that allows the use of or issues carbines should have a thorough training program to go right along with it.
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The only LEO agency I am aware of that has m16s converted them all to three round burst because they couldn't hit shit with it on full auto.
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That is crazy to me. A three round burst seems like it has liability written all over it in just about every LEO patrol application I can think of.
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