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Glock 20 or RIA Tactical

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I decided I want a 10mm pistol. My desire for this seems to be more wishful thinking than an actual need, as I do not hunt as much as I once did nor roam in the wilds as often as I did when younger. I have narrowed my list down to two choices; the Glock 20 10mm and the Rock Island Armory Tactical II 10mm. As I struggled with these two choices I made a comparison list to help me. It may help others, but it did help me to make a final decision that the RIA will work for me. While everyone may not have the same needs or reach the same conclusions as me, I will list my comparisons below and highlight my preferences. My short/fat fingers and trigger reach are my most limiting factor in hand gun choices that simply are not a concern for many shooters. Many of the comparisons are a wash in that one pistol does not hold an advantage for me either way. Let me know what you think or prefer?

.40s&w barrel from Advanced Tactical $70 available for RIA

Glock can shoot .40s&w but extra barrel from Lone Wolf $90 recommended

RIA has 5" Bull Barrel w/20# spring (legal length for Ohio)

4.6" long Glock barrel (not legal length for Ohio hunting)

6 Barrel Groves rifling in RIA

RH Hexagonal Twist in Glock 20 (not recommended for Hard Cast bullets)

1911 aftermarket parts usually require fitting

Glock aftermarket parts usually does not require fitting

RIA Tactical has ambidextrous safety and grip safety with memory bump

No external safety in the Glock

RIA Cast metal frame

Glock polymer frame

RIA Checkered flat mainspring housing

Glock Gen 4 has replaceable back straps (that I would not use)

RIA Tactical has Combat hammer that is replaceable

Glock is Striker Fired

RIA Tactical has Extended beavertail that is replaceable

extended beavertail only with medium or large backstrap which I can not use

RIA Tactical Front Sightis Orange Fiber Optic

Glock has white dot front sight

RIA has a Fully supported chamber

Glock is an unsupported chamber

I already have 3 1911 holsters

only 1 Glock holster

RIA Height: 5.5"

Glock height is 5.47"

RIA Length of Twist 1 in 16"

Glock Length of Twist 9.84"

Both have Lifetime warranty

RIA Magazine well funneled

Glock is standard mag well but w/tapered mags

RIA Comes with only one 8 Round Metalform magazine (9 round Wilson Combat available)

Glock Gen 4 comes standard with 3 magazines at 15 rounds

1911 More complicated design

Glock is a Simpler design and easier to field strip

RIA Overall Length: 8.5"

Glock length is 8.22"

RIA has Parkerized finish

Glock has Melonite Finish

The 1911 has the proper trigger reach for me

The Glock 20 does not have proper trigger acquisition for me without changing my grip

Proven 1911 design

Glock has a long time Reliable and durable reputation

RIA Tactical Rear Sight is Fully Adjustable

Glock rear sight is white bracket adjustable for windage only

Glock Gen 4 has reported slightly better recoil

RIA Tactical II come with Scaled VZ Operator II Grips made of durable G10 with relief exposing the checkered magazine release that are replaceable

Glock has a textured frame available in colors

1911 has a Single Action Skeletonized trigger, Medium length replaceable to shorter if needed

Glock has the Safe Action Double Action Only trigger


1911 has Thinner frame/slide easier to conceal


Glock 20 has wide blocky body, grip & slide

RIA claims Trigger Pull: 4 to 6 pounds (5 average)

Glock claims 5.5 lbs. trigger pull

Trigger travel is shorter on 1911

Glock Trigger travel is .49"

RIA Weight Empty 39.98 ozs.

Glock 20 is 30.89 ozs. empty

RIA Weight Loaded 45.92 ozs.

Glock 20 is 39.71 ozs. loaded
 
#4 ·
I wish I could afford both, but I can barely convince myself to part with the money for one! I was torn between the two at first. I really wanted a Glock, but after trying the fit in my hands, I just couldn't see me owning a gun that I can barely reach the trigger on. Then after doing the side by side comparison of features, it just seemed like a no-brainer (for me) to get the RIA. This morning after a trip to the bank for the last 1/3 of the funds I needed for my birthday present to myself, I ordered a #51991 RIA from my LGS. It should be here by the first of next week. I did notice on the Armscor website today, that they no longer refer to 51991 at the Tactical II FS, but now call it the Rock Ultra FS. So, it may be a surprise as to what it is called on the box when mine comes in.
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#6 ·
Grip size was the biggest determining factor for me when making a similar decision, and I've had great luck with RIA guns. (I'm a Glock fan too). I did not buy a RIA 10mm in the end but did buy a 1911 from another manufacturer because of availability at the time. I bought a long slide version, but would like to add a 5" RIA to the collection and most likely a commander length as well. 10mm is an excellent round. You can buy factory rounds that closely duplicate 40s&w ballistics without investing in another barrel unless you plan to shoot enough to offset the cost.
 
#7 ·
I'm a Glock 20 fan but you should buy what you shoot best. If a G20 SF is too big of a grip then get the RIA no question.

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I was just checking some prices at Midway and if my math is close, the .40sw barrel from Advance Tactical for $70 would pay for itself in 280 rounds of .40sw at the price of .25 per round of Blazer ammo as advertised. That would be $140 investment for 280 rounds of .40sw Blazer @ .25 plus the cost of the $70 barrel. The 10mm Blazer is .61 per round at Midway. I could fire 230 round of 10mm Blazer for the same $140 but I would not have the extra .40sw barrel either. I can save roughly .36 per round shooting the .40sw over the 10mm in the same brand of cheap ammo. At that rate after firing approximately 195 rounds of .40sw I will have saved enough in ammo cost to pay for the $70 .40sw barrel. I know ammo prices can vary greatly with sales, bulk buying and different brands and stores, but this is enough of a difference to make me want to get the .40sw barrel real soon for just plinking fun and save the 10mm for "show n tell," hunting and carry.
 
#9 ·
IMHO the small difference in price between the Glock and barrel vs the 1911 and barrel is insignificant compared to the difference in the guns themselves. Most people are either Glock or 1911 guys, if you have never owned either you owe it to yourself to try both first to see which you shoot best.
 
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I agree, the difference in cost between the Glock and RIA pistols are so close, the money is not much of a tipping point either way. However, the addition of being able to convert either pistol from using 10mm ammo to cheaper .40sw ammo is an option that I like that could save me money over they years just when shooting for fun. Like .357 & .38 or .44 mag & .44 spl. ; I like the idea of being about to shoot either 10mm or .40sw in the same pistol.

I have a RIA GI .45 that I am very fond of (see avatar), however while I have come close to getting a Glock several times, just like this time, I could just not get past the bulky Glock grip in my hand or the trigger reach.
 
#13 ·
My RIA M1911 A1 10mm Tactical II G10 arrived today. Fit and finish appears excellent and everything seems to function correctly. It is very heavily oiled and will require a take down cleaning as soon as I get a chance. The test round was fired 8/4/15 and this is before the name change on the Armscor website where the Tactical II is now called the Rock Ultra. Here is a stock pic, but mine looks just like it.
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#14 ·
I would choose the Glock 20.
Here is why, and I don't want a lot of hate mail on this one. Glock is a stronger auto loader. It has a single lug that 100% engagement, while the 1911 has 3 engagements, as the barrel lugs they are not 100% engaged to the slide. Now a correctly built and fit 1911 barrel to slide should have sufficient strength for real 10mm Auto rounds you have to keep in mind the area behind the ejection port and it is also a weak point. The Glock has a much thicker slide and is built to take that kind of abuse on a regular basis.
If the 1911 was fit exactly correct you would be good to go, but I have my doubts many production pistols are correctly fit. Take that for what it is worth as I have both.
 
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I would choose the Glock 20.
Here is why, and I don't want a lot of hate mail on this one. Glock is a stronger auto loader. It has a single lug that 100% engagement, while the 1911 has 3 engagements, as the barrel lugs they are not 100% engaged to the slide. Now a correctly built and fit 1911 barrel to slide should have sufficient strength for real 10mm Auto rounds you have to keep in mind the area behind the ejection port and it is also a weak point. The Glock has a much thicker slide and is built to take that kind of abuse on a regular basis.
If the 1911 was fit exactly correct you would be good to go, but I have my doubts many production pistols are correctly fit. Take that for what it is worth as I have both.
1911Tuner mentioned this once in here...
 
#17 ·
While I've never shot a 10mm 1911 I've always heard the Glock polymer frame absorbs recoil better than the steel framed 1911 even though it is heavier.