I am new here but not to the love of firearms and the 2A. It appears to me that the members here are attempting to sell their items at the trumped up and gouging pricing of some retailers who are trying to take advantage of the current administrations attempt to slaughter the 2A. I was hoping to find like minded gun enthusiasts who were trying to maintain a fair minded outlet for weapons enthusiasts. Am i in the right place?
J-Dub
Not sure you will find normal prices anywhere right now. I think by definition gouging is when you raises prices on must have items like gas and milk. Not sure firearms fall into that category. Something is worth what someone else is willing to pay and right now people are willing to pay a lot more.
Wish i could get ar rifles right now to sell but every distributor and manufacturer are somewhere around ten to twelve months on backorder. So until either this ban crap gets shot down or is passed prices will stay high. If it passes prices will probably double again until the ban actually becomes law. If it fails and blows over then expect prices to stabilize in a year or so but i doubt you ever see sub $1000 ar rifles again.
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Wish i could get ar rifles right now to sell but every distributor and manufacturer are somewhere around ten to twelve months on backorder. So until either this ban crap gets shot down or is passed prices will stay high. If it passes prices will probably double again until the ban actually becomes law. If it fails and blows over then expect prices to stabilize in a year or so but i doubt you ever see sub $1000 ar rifles again.
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I heard that they are not making any more guns
, so they doubled the prices, guess there is no need to go back to that shop
, so they doubled the prices, guess there is no need to go back to that shop
This has been discussed on here before not long ago. It was a long and sometimes ugly thread. This is how it is now. I agree with you that people are taking advantage of the situation to maximize profit. Gotta' love a free market. I've seen two posts in particular in the last two days that just made me shake my head. Try changing your expectations of people and you won't be so disappointed, IMO.
Look at it this way...let's say a gun shop owner needs $1,000/month to feed his family. I'll keep the math simple since supply/demand seems a difficult concept for some people.
Pre-panic he was reasonably assured he could get whatever stock he wanted from a distributor whenever he wanted it, so he sold 10 AR's a month for "a good price" and at the end of all his expenses he was able to make his $1,000 to feed his family. All is good, supply and demand are matched up pretty good (known as equilibrium).
TODAY, the distributor tells him, "I've got 1 AR for you, and you probably won't get another for 6 months". Well, his kids still have to eat so that 1 rifle now needs to support his family for 6 months, of course the dealer is going to raise his price to "maximize profit". He'd better sell it to the highest bidder, because at the end of the day he's going to lose his ass for lack of product to sell. If he were a generous guy and still sold the rifle for $1,000 he is being a poor father and letting his kids suffer.
This unexpected shift in the demand curve and the resulting shock to prices is all Econ 101 stuff. Bitch about it, sure. But stop ascribing evil to it.
Pre-panic he was reasonably assured he could get whatever stock he wanted from a distributor whenever he wanted it, so he sold 10 AR's a month for "a good price" and at the end of all his expenses he was able to make his $1,000 to feed his family. All is good, supply and demand are matched up pretty good (known as equilibrium).
TODAY, the distributor tells him, "I've got 1 AR for you, and you probably won't get another for 6 months". Well, his kids still have to eat so that 1 rifle now needs to support his family for 6 months, of course the dealer is going to raise his price to "maximize profit". He'd better sell it to the highest bidder, because at the end of the day he's going to lose his ass for lack of product to sell. If he were a generous guy and still sold the rifle for $1,000 he is being a poor father and letting his kids suffer.
This unexpected shift in the demand curve and the resulting shock to prices is all Econ 101 stuff. Bitch about it, sure. But stop ascribing evil to it.
but, but, but, I just joined up to a local gun forum so I could score some good deals. I can't find an AR priced good anywhere else, and didn't even care till this week. Now that they are going away I'd like to scoop one up, but you guys are hoarding them. You should sell me your only AR for $1,000 and thank me for giving you my money.
Exactly, it's capitalism.
You'd figure a forum full of libertarians wouldn't be screaming for something as socialistic as a price ceiling.
Economics 101... Businesses try to find the equilibrium price where supply and demand intersect on the graph. This is how you reach maximum efficiency and all businesses should strive for this to succeed. In all honesty since the demand is so high on AR's right now the prices is still to low in spite of the current political climate.
People seem to have no problem when they get a killer deal when capitalism works in their favor, and the demand dictates the market set a rock bottom price, and a merchant has to take a loss or minimal profit when they have to put things on sale or clearance.
You can't have the best of both worlds, there are pros and cons to capitalism.
Ok so i will sell you my 6920 for 1200.00 so you can sell it for 2000.00 on GB....I dont think so..if anyone is gonna make that profit IT will be me....I owe nothing to no one but my family and a few close friends
Ok. Here is the way I look at it. I was in the market for a Ruger 10/22takedown. I was on the waiting list at my local gun shop for about 3 or 4 months. In the mean time I saw it on sale at a larger retailer and went there to get but they sold out quickly I was on their list. Well sure enough the came thru and I got it there great price too since then I went into my local favorite shop and my phone rang. Guess what it was same dealer telling me that the takedown came in and when was I coming to get it. I walk up to the counter and said "fast enough". Lol. Well now I have a decision to make to I still buy & try to resell or maybe pass and let the next guy on the waiting list smile...... I chose the latter.
Hopefully I made the correct choice I am ok with it
Hopefully I made the correct choice I am ok with it
This has been a sticky subject since the madness started. I'm not a rich man that can afford to sell to you for $100 when someone else is willing to pay me $300. Can you afford to leave that $200 on the table?
There are a lot of folks that were screaming about this a few weeks back that are now selling at inflated prices like everyone else. What a difference a couple of weeks makes.
I bought what I have before this madness and if I sell it, I may not be able to replace it.
We have an ignore option, that's the best way to eliminate people that offend you.
Thanks, Terry
"People seem to have no problem when they get a killer deal when capitalism works in their favor, and the demand dictates the market set a rock bottom price, and a merchant has to take a loss or minimal profit when they have to put things on sale or clearance.
You can't have the best of both worlds, there are pros and cons to capitalism"
WELL SAID ilivas
There are a lot of folks that were screaming about this a few weeks back that are now selling at inflated prices like everyone else. What a difference a couple of weeks makes.
I bought what I have before this madness and if I sell it, I may not be able to replace it.
We have an ignore option, that's the best way to eliminate people that offend you.
Thanks, Terry
"People seem to have no problem when they get a killer deal when capitalism works in their favor, and the demand dictates the market set a rock bottom price, and a merchant has to take a loss or minimal profit when they have to put things on sale or clearance.
You can't have the best of both worlds, there are pros and cons to capitalism"
WELL SAID ilivas
Agreed with the above. Why should we price something at before panic prices just to have someone else buy them and turn around and make a stupid high profit elsewhere? If anyone is going to profit from my for thought and preparation I would like it to be me.
Some of those that have complained about pricing have made themselves sound really bad. Basically they are saying: Everybody stop buying anything gun related right now, so the supply will come back and the price will go back down because I want what I want, when I want it, at the price I want to pay.
As I have said before either wait or pay to play. If you cannot afford or do not want to pay the inflated prices for your your new found love be time for a new game.
If you don't like a price don't pay for it. If you like the price buy and be merry.
If you don't like a price don't pay for it. If you like the price buy and be merry.
Welcome comrade! I am in the market for a $100 aluminum stripped lower, a $120 BCG, $0.30/rd 55gr brass cased FMJ, $13 30rd pmags, and a $1100 Colt 6920. As a fellow lover of firearms and the 2A, I'm sure you'll be willing to part with your AR gear at these 'old normal' prices.
On a side note, I think it is quite telling that the Liberal Gun Club Forum does not have a Classifieds section. The cognitive dissonance that would have been on display would have been epic!
On a side note, I think it is quite telling that the Liberal Gun Club Forum does not have a Classifieds section. The cognitive dissonance that would have been on display would have been epic!
In the technical field of Economics, there are no "needs" but only "wants"... the differentiation of needs from wants is not an economic issue.
Kinda like "greed", the term "gouging" is more of a social or political issue.
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