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Heading to Tennessee This Weekend

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#1 ·
My wife, kids and I are headed to the Smoky Mtns. for the Labor day weekend. We are leaving tomorrow afternoon. So I decided to do a little research on their laws regarding carrying in your vehicle. It appears, that up until 2014, it was illegal to carry a firearm in your vehicle unless you had a state issued permit. Now, as a result of new provisions in their Castle Doctrine, carrying a firearm in your legally owned private vehicle without a permit is not a crime as long as the firearm is not carried on your person. While researching this, I came across this article. The ignorance just about makes my head explode when I read this stuff:

"But some law enforcement officials have reservations about the change. Col. Tracy Trott, with the Tennessee Highway Patrol, voiced doubts during a Senate Judiciary Committee hearing this spring.

"I do have concerns as a law enforcement officer for guns to be more readily available in this business," Trott told lawmakers. "But my concerns are not enough for the administration to 'flag' the bill."

A 'flag' indicates to legislators that a governor, in this case Gov. Bill Haslam, is personally opposed to a measure.

Chattanooga's new police chief, Fred Fletcher, was appointed shortly after the bill passed. He has mixed feelings about the law, too.

A former top official in the Austin Police Department, Fletcher said Texas has allowed people to carry "long guns" -- shotguns and rifles -- for many years and officers "were very familiar and comfortable with that."

But, Fletcher said Tuesday, Chattanooga "is plagued by a number of violent crimes that involve handguns" and criminal gang members.

"This law will make it easier for people who are up to nefarious purposes to carry a gun, to go commit violence," Fletcher said. "That's not a news blast to anybody. If people are allowed to carry guns they will carry them both for good and for ill."


What's also not a news blast is the fact that if they are carrying handguns for ill, they are going to do it regardless of what law is out there. Good God how much more simple can it be? So if Tennessee would go back to their law prior to the Castle Doctrine, according to these people in the article, everything will be safer because the criminals who mean to do harm, will abide by the law and refuse to carry their firearm in their vehicle, thus negating the need for law-abiding citizens without a permit to worry about having to carry to protect themselves. These people have so much hot air in their heads, it's a wonder they don't float away.

Here's a link to the full story:

http://www.timesfreepress.com/news/local/story/2014/jul/09/new-gun-rights-law-takes-effect/251789/
 
#2 ·
My wife, kids and I are headed to the Smoky Mtns. for the Labor day weekend. We are leaving tomorrow afternoon. So I decided to do a little research on their laws regarding carrying in your vehicle. It appears, that up until 2014, it was illegal to carry a firearm in your vehicle unless you had a state issued permit. Now, as a result of new provisions in their Castle Doctrine, carrying a firearm in your legally owned private vehicle without a permit is not a crime as long as the firearm is not carried on your person.
Before the new law took effect, those without a TN concealed carry permit could carry a firearm in the vehicle, but the ammunition had to be stored separately.

Now, per the new law, you can carry the weapon loaded so long as you are legally able to possess it, permit or no permit.

We went to the Smokies in August...I carried a pistol and a rifle.
 
#15 ·
Legal concealed carry in NC transfers same rights in Tennessee, right?
Tha'ts what I thought reciprocity was---if you are legal in NC you are legal in Tenn. Some educate me if I'm wrong. I will soon be traveling thru Tenn, ARkanas, Oklahoma, Texas, New Mexico and Colorado. All of these state recognize NC concealed carry laws and "offer" reciprocity. I am not talking about anything other than carrying concealed while traveling, no alcohol, no establishments that serve alcohol, etc etc. If you respond a link to your info if other than what I have stated would be much appreciated.
Thanks, stay safe out there.
 
#16 ·
A state having reciprocity means that you as a permit holder visiting or transitting from a recognized state are entitled to the same rights and face the same limitations as that state's resident permit holders. The burden of knowing each state's laws is on you.
 
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#18 ·
I don't have a NC, or any state's, concealed carry permit. So my concern was from a different perspective. I was pleased to discover that I could stay legal in Tennessee while carrying my firearm in my vehicle, concealed or open, as long as it isn't on my person. It's the driving/traveling thing that was my main concern.
 
#20 ·
We had a good time as well. But I'll tell you one thing. This weekend will be the last weekend I ever, and I mean EVER, go to the Smoky Mountains, or any where else, on Labor Day weekend, or any other holiday. I hate traffic and crowds. That said, it's my own fault. We met my sister and her husband at the cabin over there and spent all day Saturday watching college ball. Great time. Sunday morning, I came up with the grand idea of taking everybody to downtown Gatlinburg to ride the sky lift. I haven't been on it, or to TN since I was 4 years old (1967). My wife had never been to TN at all. Rained like hell when we got out of our car after about a 1-1/2 hour drive from our cabin which was about 10 miles away. We waited about an hour for the rain to subside and then we took our skylift ride. It was nostalgic for me, not so much for anyone else with me. Then this morning, we packed our bags to head home. What should have been a 4 to 4-1/2 hr drive, turned out to be a 6 hour drive. They, the Gatlinburg, Pigeon Forge, Dolly Parton, Smoky Mountain folks haven't quite nailed down the engineering on traffic management/road design quite yet......... But we had a good time and that's what counts. Glad you guys did as well. Sorry we couldn't meet up. We've got plenty of more opportunities however. Let's just make sure we don't make the attempt on another holiday weekend.:D
 
#25 ·
Required stops: SMKW in Sevierville, Apple Barn in Pigeon Forge, and ole Smoky tasting. Everything else meh. Camping at Smokemont and points along the way to Cades cove is pretty nice
 
#27 ·
A few suggestions:

Smokey Mountain Knife Works: this place is located just north of Pigeon Forge. I highly recommend that you and your son set aside at Least 2 hours to look around. They have a fair amount of firearms, but their knife selection is the largest you will likely ever find in one place. Their "gear" selection covered basically anything you can imagine. I went for around an hour and it wasn't nearly enough. I became overwhelmed. Right across the street is Buds Gun shop. I couldn't figure out if it was the Buds of internet fame, but it is still a gun store that needs scouting. So get to it.

Parrot Mountain & Gardens: I wasn't to keen on this until we actually went and ended up being a highlight of our trip. The birds are awesome to play with and feed.

The Comedy Barn: Pigeon Forge. Nice family friendly show and it was hilarious. We were all enjoying it.

As far as carrying your firearm, concealed is concealed, and when we walked downtown Gatlinberg at night I was glad I had mine.

Not as recommended: Ober Gatlinburg. The ride in the gondola is fun, but once at the top it was just kinda blah. There was a cool shop up there that sold a lot of 2A flags and signs and stuff. The zoo there is pitiful.
 
#28 ·
A few suggestions:

Smokey Mountain Knife Works: this place is located just north of Pigeon Forge. I highly recommend that you and your son set aside at Least 2 hours to look around. They have a fair amount of firearms, but their knife selection is the largest you will likely ever find in one place. Their "gear" selection covered basically anything you can imagine. I went for around an hour and it wasn't nearly enough. I became overwhelmed. Right across the street is Buds Gun shop. I couldn't figure out if it was the Buds of internet fame, but it is still a gun store that needs scouting. So get to it.

Parrot Mountain & Gardens: I wasn't to keen on this until we actually went and ended up being a highlight of our trip. The birds are awesome to play with and feed.

The Comedy Barn: Pigeon Forge. Nice family friendly show and it was hilarious. We were all enjoying it.

As far as carrying your firearm, concealed is concealed, and when we walked downtown Gatlinberg at night I was glad I had mine.

Not as recommended: Ober Gatlinburg. The ride in the gondola is fun, but once at the top it was just kinda blah. There was a cool shop up there that sold a lot of 2A flags and signs and stuff. The zoo there is pitiful.
We drove right past Smokey Mountain Knife Works at one point. Neil commented on it. So yeah, we need to hit that place the next time we're over there. Thanks.
 
#35 ·
That makes me miss my grandfather. I think the last time we got to do that as a family was around 2001. We're still eating the syrup we made then.

We checked out three different go-cart racing places on Sunday after taking in the Dixie Stampede dinner show. We learned our lesson: no more dinner theater and no more $5 go-cart rides.
 
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#42 ·
they also have this bbq sauce recipe on their site that i'm going to try

Barbecue Sauce

1 cup ketchup
1/2 cup packed brown sugar
1/3 cup sugar
1/4 cup honey
1/4 cup sorghum
2 teaspoons prepared mustard
1 1/2 teaspoons Worcestershire sauce
1/4 teaspoon salt
1/4 teaspoon Liquid Smoke
1/8 teaspoon pepper

Combine all ingredients in a small saucepan. Bring to a boil. Remove from heat. Enjoy.
 
#43 ·
Here's a proposition for the denizens of CSC to marinate over: if somebody with a big garden would grow and cut sorghum cane, my family could press and cook it into syrup in exchange for some of the final product, say maybe 1 jar of every 3. We'll need to dust off all the old equipment and it's going to be a really long day cooking, but we're game if anybody here is.
 
#45 ·
To be honest I haven't had any molasses since last Christmas and probably won't have any more until this Christmas. Just too much sugar in it for me. But I appreciate the role sorghum molasses played in my heritage and I want to help my dad resurrect that now that my grandfather isn't with us anymore.
 
#46 ·
I forgot to post this. One of these things was hanging out on the outside of the front door of our cabin last Friday evening when we got there. I should have took a picture of it but it seems I can never remember that my phone has a camera. I knew that small versions of these insects lived in the US, but I had no idea that some of the larger ones did. The one on our cabin door was about 6 inches long. Have any of you come across one of these insects?

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#48 ·
When I first saw it sitting there on the door frame, I thought it was a praying mantis. After unpacking I went back out to get a closer look and realized it was a walking stick. What's funny, evidently, one of these things got into the cabin sometime in the past. We were reading the guest book names and comments. There was one posting from someone in the guest book comment section that basically stated: "We had a great time and loved your cabin. The only negative we experienced while staying in your lovely cabin was that there was a big long scorpion downstairs in the basement." lol.