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Info needed on legality of AR-15s (Semi-Auto) in NC

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#1 ·
Since moving down here and being quite surprised at the California-like stance on private ownership of firearms, I am wondering about the dos and don'ts of semi-auto AR-15 ownership in this state. I bought an Olympia AR-15 back in VA, and brought it with me. It's a standard configuration (Full stock front and rear, 16" barrel). Would I be in violation if I were to replace the fixed rear stock with an adjustable configuration, and the forestock with a Picatinny fore rail?

Are 30 round mags legal in North Carolina?

Is it even legal to own a semi-auto AR-15 without the Sheriff's permission?

I gave up a lot of freedom to move close to my grandkids I am discovering! I can remember buying my first large bore rifle at the local hardware store at 16 with just a driver's license. Times. they have changed.....
 
#2 ·
you can use a collapsable stock and rail and whatever capacity mags you want. as long as you aren't making it full auto or putting a barrel shorter than 16 inches on it no paperwork is necessary. I'm sure someone has the link for the actual general statutes on hand and will post it but I do not . god luck and welcome to nc
 
#7 ·
I knew I would catch flak on that comment. Unless I read the law incorrectly, one cannot purchase a pistol privately without a paperwork transfer of ownership, approval of the sheriff and a purchase permit, which, I assume, would be required for each pistol.

"North Carolina's pistol permitting and concealed carry permit laws qualify as an alternative to the requirements of the Brady Law. Therefore, when a person desires to purchase a handgun from a federally-licensed dealer, the person needs to comply solely with North Carolina's pistol permit laws, and present a valid permit to purchase a handgun or valid North Carolina-issued concealed carry permit. (Please note: Even if a NICS inquiry by a federally-licensed dealer was done in this circumstance, it does not do away with the
necessity for a pistol purchase permit.) As always, any other transfer between private individuals is also governed by North Carolina's pistol permit laws."

It would be unlawful for me to receive as a gift a pistol, if I read the law correctly.

"Under North Carolina law, it is unlawful for any person, firm, or corporation to sell, give away, transfer, purchase, or receive, at any place in the state, any pistol, unless the purchaser or receiver has first obtained a license or permit to receive such a pistol by the sheriff of the county where the purchaser or receiver resides, or the purchaser or receiver possesses a valid North Carolina-issued concealed carry permit. This requirement to obtain a permit prior to the transfer of a pistol applies not only to a commercial transaction, typically at a sporting goods store, but also between private individuals or companies throughout North Carolina. N.C. Gen. Stat. § 14-402(a)

"In addition, this State law has been interpreted to require that a pistol permit be obtained by the receiver of a handgun when such person inherits a pistol as a result of the death of another person. The permit should be given to and retained by the seller or donor of the handgun. In such a case, the permit should be given to the executor or receiver of the estate of the deceased person. If the purchaser or receiver uses a North Carolina- issued concealed carry permit for the transfer, the seller should reference such permit on a bill of sale."

If I have to get a purchase permit for a pistol, I essentially have registered the pistol with a governmental entity that can, "in an emergency", confiscate it. Remember New Orleans and Katrina? By default, state gun registration does exist. The county keeps a record of the weapon. The purchase permit is not destroyed. So, now do I have to get a permit to keep all the guns I bought when not a resident of NC and over the past 50 some years?

Sorry, gentlemen, guess I'm just spoiled by Indiana and Virginia gun laws, the Second Amendment----and the fact that I am 63 years old and remember getting mail order guns. I have been around them all my life. Yeah, I am a bit miffed that I probably will have to sell a deactivated SMG that I've had since 1967 because I moved here to be close to my daughter and two grandkids. I left it in VA until I get everything straightened out legally. It's kind of a disappointment that the South is becoming so North Eastern. I can understand a driver's license, but that's a privilege, not a right guaranteed by the Constitution. May have to become a lobbyist.
 
#8 ·
You need a permit to buy the pistol, yes. However the pistol is never registered with the .gov. All the know is that they issued you a permit, they don't know what you bought, or if you even did buy a pistol. It's really just getting your nics check done in advance by the sheriffs dept, instead of having the dealer do it.
I still disagree with it, but it isn't that bad.
 
#9 ·
A handgun purchase permit is a state law there is no federal statute that requires you to have a permit to buy a handgun. The current NC purchace permit is a Jim Crow law that was never repealed. The origional idea was to prohibit blacks from buying handguns. At one time in NC blacks were prohibited from even owning dogs as there was fear that the dog could be used as a weapon.
 
#10 ·
What I would like to see, and I dont mean this in an antagonistic way, is a list of states that have a more lenient system set up for firearm ownership. Personally I had no problem filling out the paperwork for a pistol, an inconvenience, but I understand the need to at least have attempts at keeping guns out of felons hands.

As far as a concealed carry permit, I actually like our system we have. Granted I think it takes a bit too long from begining to end, but making people take a class, prove they can shoot, and having a background check run doesnt seem too severe of a thing.

Do I wish it was as easy to buy a pistol as it is a rifle/shotgun? Yes, but I never felt that the controls in place were too much of an impediment to a law abiding citizen.
 
#11 ·
Well, I have to live with it. I live here now. Yeah, there is no federal requirement to have a permit to buy a pistol at this point in time (Well, unless you count the Brady Bill as a quasi....). Complacency will lead to that. Complacency led to the Brady Bill, NICS, etc. "Yeah, it's a bother, but...." "it's something I can live with...." We give an inch; they take a yard. Felons will get them or make them, regardless.

Sorry to rant on about this. It'll probably result in me not getting a purchase permit, or a C&C. :sneaky2:

Why, no; I'm not paranoid. Why do you ask?:lol:
 
#13 ·
NC laws aren't all the different from VA. There is the pesky purchase permit thing but getting a Concealed Carry Permit eliminates that. Then there's the whole issue of not carrying in places where alcohol is sold and consumed. Those are the two "major" differences. Does VA still have that stupid One Gun a Month law????

Let me know when you're ready to upgrade that Olympic.
 
#14 ·
NC laws aren't all the different from VA. There is the pesky purchase permit thing but getting a Concealed Carry Permit eliminates that. Then there's the whole issue of not carrying in places where alcohol is sold and consumed. Those are the two "major" differences. Does VA still have that stupid One Gun a Month law????

Let me know when you're ready to upgrade that Olympic.
Thank you wahoo95. I was fixing to point out that in Va. you could only buy 1 gun a month there until about a year ago.
 
#16 ·
NC laws aren't all the different from VA. There is the pesky purchase permit thing but getting a Concealed Carry Permit eliminates that. Then there's the whole issue of not carrying in places where alcohol is sold and consumed. Those are the two "major" differences. Does VA still have that stupid One Gun a Month law????

Let me know when you're ready to upgrade that Olympic.
I never thought that alcohol and gun powder mixed, so I didn't find that too restrictive nor invasive---just common sense. It has been a while since I bought a pistol, but I don't remember a purchase permit.....oh, I had a C&C then, and I got it via the Quantico Shooting Club. Never mind! Most of my pistols have either been from private individuals or inheritance, or Pre-1968 Firearm Prevention Act purchases. I know the law isn't called that, but.....:laugh:

I figure a telescoping butt stock and Buck-Fing-Rogers fore rail would be enough for the Olympic. I'd like to get a decent scope as it has the mount, but I've always used iron sights. Now, though, my eyes just don't do well in that situation. Must be the bifocals, or not. I won't mess around with the other rifles, as they will remain WWII configuration.
 
#17 ·
AR-15's are NOT legal in any capacity in NC
Luckily for you I have a disposal service, and we offer a CSF special discount.
All you'll need to do it pay us $100 (cash only) and hand over your AR-15 and we will dispose of it in a safe and legal manor.
Don't miss out on this special March Madness discount!!!

:)
 
#22 ·
Ahrtal,

Welcome to the forum! I'm a newbie here, myself; and you'll find this a a great source of info as well as some significant entertainment value!

With all do respect, in reading your posts, it sounds as though your question would be a more accurately stated as as
" I haven't had direct involvement in the firearms laws since about 1968, and that was in Virginia. have the laws in NC changed when compared to the 1968 firearms laws of Virginia?"
In that case, the answer is a resounding YES......in at least 48 of the 50 states, the laws have gotten stiffer. I would think that the time factor is more of a variable than the geography.
To clarify the "permit to purchase" a pistol in NC , you can get the background check done, and purchase several "permits" at once....I think it used to be 3 at a time. Those permits to purchase are good for up to 5 years. I always got an extra or two....and kept them handy in case I came across a deal I couldn't pass up. That permit to purchase is NOT tied into a specific weapon. A NC CCW permit will alleviate all that. Go get your " I ain't a felon" card, and move forward!
In regards to your paranoia, though, are you SURE that plant on the table is in exactly the same spot it was yesterday???:001_huh:
 
#23 ·
The pistol purchase permit is about as far from liberal Commiefornia as any modern law can be. It's a leftover from the Jim Crow days and it needs to GO.

But the PPP has nothing at all to do with long arms. If your AR is legal on a Federal level it will be legal in NC as well.
 
#24 ·
While NC is not the most firearms friendly State in this nation by any means its still far better than most and not much different than Va. I have lived in NC all my life and I own just about every type of firearm imaginable. NC is far far distant in this respect from the state of Californication! If you ranked all the states 1-50 with 1 being the most firearms friendly (least restrictive laws). I would put NC about 10th-12th or so. The Omnibus bill was a start but we still have work to do to fix some of the ridiculous laws now on the books but we still have it better than most states. If we can keep the GOP majority in the legislature for a few more years we will see more progress in this respect.
 
#26 ·
Onslow County does in fact tie its pistol permits to the firearm being purchased. At least within the county. I don't know what power the Sheriff has to enforce it, but the permits here are issued in duplicate and the selling dealer is supposed to provide the Sheriff with the second copy as well a copy of the 4473 when they sell a handgun.