[eclipse13]

I am too tired to type the really bad stuff left, but yes, look at AZ, they are now blocking off 80 miles from the boarder to Americans, saying it's too dangerous.
So what? We gave up land? If that's the front we are being attacked from do we typically back up 80 miles or start killing people?

They are running convoys now with 50 Cal's daring border town police to stop them and driving right on in. What is too much? Where is the guard?

While I don't think things are quite as bad as other may, this REALLY scares me. When I heard this I couldn't believe it. They are, in effect, taking land from us, and that SHOULD NOT be allowed to happen. They keep testing their boundaries and we are just caving.

 

[rem40x]

Good post and I agree on being able to support one's family in dire circumstances. I do think the administration knows exactly what they are doing w/ our direction as a country.

 

[Cigarhead]

I don't think it's going to happen tomorrow by any means, but depending on spending and when our existence no longer benefits China enough to keep us afloat, things will come crashing down. It will probably be similar to the collapse of the USSR, the government and public services will just grind to a halt.

Is it too late to stop it? I don't think so, but it would take a radical change in direction and mindset of the state & federal governments. If politicians ever decide to do what's best for the country and the people versus what's best for themselves we have a shot at recovery.

Van Jones.
White House Team
Green CZAR (green my ass, red is more like it, this stuff is mild.
If you will allow me I will expose the whole White House. You would be considered by the largest part of the movement to get back to our earlier times and closer to the constitution and small government as "asleep"
And all of this is out there for you to see. So sleep you shall until something effects you directly if you are like most, but what you don't know evidently is it already has. Yes, we can change it, with impeachment of the whole staff?

Please, take a minute and see who is working in the white house.
it's important. Take the 3 minutes and listen, while I find something that will curl your hair. Listen for the quote I was using about the radical pose.
They want to look like the calm ones in charge, not radicals, so they get to the end and then can be radicals in charge.

times have changed, you can't just worry about your ready bag, worry about your children living in socialism as best. This is not the first time bad people ran the country. And it got bloody the last time, people died and you can't find it in a history book. Hell you can't find anything about proud black people who also fought and died here, free men who lead white churches, battles for freedoms and equality. WHy? they have to keep us pissed off at each other and push us to fight the fight for them. This is a mild taste of Jones, HE WORKS IN THE WHITE HOUSE with 5 other Marxist, 1 communist (him) and worse. I hope you can take the time to hear it from his mouth

Also add Bill Ayers, try to remember this guy bombed the pentagon, he is now the most frequent WH visitor and is a trusted ADVISOR to the president.
Last year he said he wished that the bombs he has set off here had done much more damage.
Now his is working for Bama and teaching young minds in a college.
Rich rich rich.

 

[Cigarhead]

This is a twisted video, you have to pay attention to the flips in this speach.

 

[Cigarhead]

Your children? I don't have any, but would die for yours, so take a minute and see why I would, why I care. I will be gone (maybe)

"It COULD happen tomorrow"
Wake up.

Here is a list of names to look up. This directly effects every one of us, look these people up. Question everything boldly. This is long, but it's your freedom on the line.
So take a minute. Listen, if you think Glen Beck is a nut job, you have not listened to him. Or seen him cry when talking about your kids. The man is putting his life in danger for saying stuff like this and he is getting bolder and bolder.
Fridays are "founder Fridays' and he teaches history, even brought in the foremost history expert in the world, a great and honest man to help him teach it correctly and teach him.
He is working with a staff of 6 people (was a month ago still) he sleeps very little, reads and learns and digs to find what no other station will tell you about.

When your done ask yourself why this is not on all the stations with people yelling and crying?

How do you feel about a global government? It's already started, but you did not get a memo on it I am sure.
There are zero communist around me
this guy is leading our country and writing bills and skipping legislature.
He grew up with Bill Ayers and now the foundation that Ayers co founded, it's other co founder is a close White House advisor, but he is a terrorit.....who still runs it. Why is he on the white house check in sheet ever week?

 

[Cigarhead]

This is the perfect bio on Jones, and since this was made he has taken the stance to look wholesome and let the moronic "white ***holes destroy it for them"

Storm exposed, everything from even before college.
He has NO boss, he is one of 20 Czars? That word makes my skin crawl.

this is exposed to the 10th degree

Trust me when I tell you this guy is not in the cabinet due to his past, it would have been exposed before Obama was elected, he had to lay low and then be appointed.
would you vote for someone with this guy talking in his ear....

THanks to anyone who listened and tried to hear the truth about this man, and others.
I guess we would need 10 or 15 threads to expose them all one by one. I just don't have time to day. Google and Youtube this guy. And look up Storm and try to find a copy to read.

 

[Cape Fear]

Proverbs 22:3...

 

[snal]

Proverbs 22:3...

+1

 

[Gouranga]

I am glad I have more hope in America than you guys. You must live each day in abject terror. I think things are not as they should be, but when are they ever?

I believe more in my country than that.

I have seen real broken countries. They don't look like ours.

That being said, I am definitely preparing for disaster, but not because I don't believe in my country. Some of you should be ashamed of yourselves.

I had a lot of confidence. It got shaken a lot during Katrina when we saw a major US city decline to 3rd world country status in < a week. We are a LOT closer to chaos than any of us like to think.

It is not something I look at and cheer for, or look forward to in any way. My family has been part of this nation since close to it's inception. I take a LOT of pride in this country and it breaks my heart to think about its decline.

However, if you remember the USSR and its death. It was an economic death. The nation could not support its bureaucracy, and I see the some of the same things that occurred there happening here. Even some of the stuff which affected the Roman Empire and its decline.

Infrastructure is in dire need and extremely high capacity. Our use of water, not sustainable. Our power grid, overtaxed and ripe for collapse, about a week after it goes down nationwide,(imagine a solar storm, terrorist attack or another failure like the one in the NE), things will start to get bad. The government cannot rapidly restore a nationwide failure. Bridges are decaying all over without repair or plans to replace. In major cities water lines, sewer lines are way beyond designed lifetime.

Our economy, in shambles and even in the best of times not sustainable. States are beginning to drop now. Cali, NY, and Ill are only the first, it is gonna get a lot worse in the next couple years the feds cannot bail these folks out.

Defense:We cannot and will not protect our own borders. We literally have militants coming across the southern border and killing citizens and nothing being done about it. Our forces are overtaxed and stretched thin fighting 2 wars.

I would feel maybe some confidence if anything was being done to address any of these problems. However, nothing is being done. None of these problems are being seriously addressed and the government appears happy to go same ol' same ol' and the road that leads down is going to wipe the nation out.

Can we fix it? I think so, I think we are a powerful enough nation and our people (especially our people) could address these through sheer force of will. Will we though? I do not think so. I think we will die a death of complacency, by the time any action is taken, it will be too late. Do others see it? heck yeah, People see it and are ticked, they yell out to the government to fix it and are labelled crackpots, ********, misinformed, etc. Marginalizing your population is the single biggest mistake they can make in this country. People get madder and madder and when they perceive that there is nothing non-violent than can be done...well we will see more folks like the fellas they just grabbed up north. Sooner or later they will get unlucky and one of these radicals will do some damage.

 

[SpeedyCotton]

+1,000 to Cigarhead.
Every night after watching the news, I just shake my head and wonder if I woke up in an alternate universe. (Fire up the warp drive and take us back Scotty)
I'm 51 and have been talking about what was slowly coming all my life, it has just accelerated some lately, that's all. But in the end, no real surprise.
I only hope that now, after the last few years, folks will wake up.

 

[1325air]

The news is shocking every day. A lot of stuff is happening that just makes absolutely no sense. For Instance today we find out that Obama had a meeting with the head of NASA. Obama ordered NASA to have as their main focus and priority, to inspire Muslims and foster good relationships with Muslims. What? What the heck does NASA have to do with Islam? Just another whacked out piece of info that will be forgotten tomorrow and replaced by something weirder.

 

[2819]

Cigarhead, good post.....

One comment on it....
When you say :

"You have a white house that is lead by a man who really has no idea what he is doing, how to do the job, simply there to further the agenda of the maxes and socialist that he has on his cabinet."

IMHO, you are mistaken..... Obama KNOWS exactly what he is doing and why he is doing it.

I have to agree with this statement....he knows exactly what he is doing!!!!

 

[Paracord Joes]

http://www.prisonplanet.com/ny-national-guard-involved-in-mass-arrests-of-u-s-citizens.html

 

[NCshooter26]

This thread has taken a sharp turn into political discussion, which isn't allowed here. If you want to discuss it further take it to the minefield. Thanks.