Excellent points...I love watching Doomsday Preppers and there are always some on there with elaborate set-ups...gardens..ponds...solar....and no means or DESIRE to defend it? People will take your shit....hell they will panic and riot on Black Friday for a PS4 and that's something they are paying for. Along with shooting skills fitness is also huge and often the last thing people consider a prep.

After seeing my wife struggle with an AR and the mechanics involved of loading..charging and shooting it.....you realize there is no way in anybody's doomsday fantasy to be practical to arm her with one. She loads, shoots and operates a Ruger 10/22 very well.....I would rather have .22LR rounds going down range accurately and consistenly then malfunctions and poor marksmanship due to fatigue. She can operate just about any firearm on a rudimentary basis if needed but the 10/22 has proven to be realistic for her skill level and ultimately her fitness level to have to carry it with ammo etc.

 

Carbine training is not often enough offered or taken in this area. Every able bodied adult should know how to fight with one. I don't really know how (sort of, but not like I do with a handgun). Training opportunities seem to be infrequent and long (multiple days).

 

Carbine training is not often enough offered or taken in this area. Every able bodied adult should know how to fight with one. I don't really know how (sort of, but not like I do with a handgun). Training opportunities seem to be infrequent and long (multiple days).

You need to look harder. In the great State of NC we have more firearms training per SQ mile then any other state in the nation. That's no joke.

Checkout my website in my sig line and book a date with us.

John

 

John, I really need to get into one of your classes. I was a Sapper in the Army, but that was MANY moons ago.... As they say.

 

Carbine training is not often enough offered or taken in this area. Every able bodied adult should know how to fight with one. I don't really know how (sort of, but not like I do with a handgun). Training opportunities seem to be infrequent and long (multiple days).

People need to be willing to drive a ways to further their mechanics. Training with John is a 2.5hr drive for me and an all day adventure, but its worth every penny.

 

Interesting responses to my comment.

I did just check out the Trace website. Looks like 4 basic carbine classes in 2014. I actually be able to do the Feb or March one, so maybe that's a good option. Driving distance isn't really an issue.

 

JTM,

If it's not with us, please find a quality course. We do a top shelf carbine that honestly is second to none. But we are not the only option in this area.

Have a great week.

John

 

Good points John!!

For those that can't afford "official" training I suggest you look on Youtube for subject matter and examples and practice at home.

Airsoft guns are a safer and cheap way to try these techniques and learn how to accomplish them. Even basic and advanced firearms skills can be practiced with airsoft.

With ammo cost and training cost it can be very cost prohibitive for many but airsoft can help bridge that gap.

NOTHING replaces training and practice with your actual firearms but this is a way for those on a budget and not on a budget to expand their training.

Here are a few videos that explain a few things about airsoft.

(look up the entire video series)

 

Good video about slicing the pie.

 

Good points John!!

For those that can't afford "official" training I suggest you look on Youtube for subject matter and examples and practice at home.

Airsoft guns are a safer and cheap way to try these techniques and learn how to accomplish them. Even basic and advanced firearms skills can be practiced with airsoft.

With ammo cost and training cost it can be very cost prohibitive for many but airsoft can help bridge that gap.

NOTHING replaces training and practice with your actual firearms but this is a way for those on a budget and not on a budget to expand their training.

Here are a few videos that explain a few things about airsoft.

(look up the entire video series)

Great points we use AirSoft during FoF training. Now this the video you posted the third one please take a close look at it.

In sport shooting its fine but fighting these things will get you killed. Let me show you what I am talking about.

1. (time: 9sec's) the black shirted person steps out from the training cover and exposes his whole body.
2. (time: 14sec's) the same person is moving past cover to engage a target if you stop at the 14sec mark he leads with his left leg / foot and the muzzle is still behind cover. He should lead with his muzzle.
3. (time: 22sec's) the person again leads with his foot steping arond cover, not muzzle lead with his pistol

Thats just the first 22sec's of that one video. I agree that airsoft and watching YouTube can help alot, more of a supporting role then a primary training tool.

Lastly the video about Travis, his AirSoft guns he speaks of cost more then most live fire guns plus ammunition with all the trimmings he has.

 

John. I said airsoft can help basic and advanced skill set including those wanting to learn or practice competitive shooting, tactics, etc. Sorry, maybe I didnt make that clear enough about that.

Those airsoft guns Travis shows are expensive but the basic skills can be practiced with the cheaper airsoft guns as well. I also made sure people understood that NOTHING replaces training and practice with your actual firearms but this is a way for those on a budget and not on a budget to expand their training.

 

Oh I agree 1000% with you.

I have airsoft in a Ar and pistol both are used for training at my house all the time.

John

 

Time is more my enemy than funds. Especially since most places let you train with 22lr now.

Does anyone offer more advanced classes? Ones not really pertaining to firearms and gun play so much but more along the lines of whole experience societal collapse. Not sure how to ask this question anymore exactly.... hmm. Gunplay can be a rather important aspect, but if one is struck with dysentery the fight might be over days before it even begins.

 

Winterswar--Triangle Krav Maga....coming up in a couple weeks. Only $200.00 I've trained with them...it's quality stuff for the price. LEO and Military discount as well....

http://store.trianglekravmaga.com/product/winter-s-war

 

Time is more my enemy than funds. Especially since most places let you train with 22lr now.

Does anyone offer more advanced classes? Ones not really pertaining to firearms and gun play so much but more along the lines of whole experience societal collapse. Not sure how to ask this question anymore exactly.... hmm. Gunplay can be a rather important aspect, but if one is struck with dysentery the fight might be over days before it even begins.

If you look at these books that create a story line around their version of societal collapse, there is a common theme among all of them. Weapons/tactical training is essential. Survival skills, ie how to bivouac without being spotted, blending in to your environment, etc. Then, there's knowing land navigation, medical skills (you mentioned dysentery) to treat yourself or family if something happens, having a surplus of food and being able to grow or procure more (which means you've got to have a secure place to live or to evacuate to)....its literally the entire gambit of staying alive without a structured society to support life as we know it. As far as I know, there isn't a course that offers ALL of that stuff combined. You might have to take advanced first aid classes, learn to grow food on your own, take firearms training, etc.

Now, if someone had the resources to start a business that offered like a 2-week course that offered a bug-out scenario, that teaches people how to go from point A to point B while throwing all sorts of scenarios at them in a learning environment...that'd be something.

 

John, check out his other book, Contact!

 

Sounds a lot like Sapper School to me. A little longer than two weeks and not much fun honestly.

If you look at these books that create a story line around their version of societal collapse, there is a common theme among all of them. Weapons/tactical training is essential. Survival skills, ie how to bivouac without being spotted, blending in to your environment, etc. Then, there's knowing land navigation, medical skills (you mentioned dysentery) to treat yourself or family if something happens, having a surplus of food and being able to grow or procure more (which means you've got to have a secure place to live or to evacuate to)....its literally the entire gambit of staying alive without a structured society to support life as we know it. As far as I know, there isn't a course that offers ALL of that stuff combined. You might have to take advanced first aid classes, learn to grow food on your own, take firearms training, etc.

Now, if someone had the resources to start a business that offered like a 2-week course that offered a bug-out scenario, that teaches people how to go from point A to point B while throwing all sorts of scenarios at them in a learning environment...that'd be something.

 

^^ I definitely understand that, although I was never some POG engineer lol

It's hard to beat a combat arms enlistment (or career) in the military for that kind of experience.

 

We liked to think of ourselves as Rangers that could do math..... LOL

^^ I definitely understand that, although I was never some POG engineer lol

 

I will be taking some carbine courses this coming year. I have been sorely lacking in that department. Hope to see some of you there.

 

I will be taking some carbine courses this coming year. I have been sorely lacking in that department. Hope to see some of you there.

Our 2014 dates are posted. I hope you can make it some time to us.