That 45-65 grain bullet is going to be greatly affected by cross winds especially at great distances. The military practices out to 500 meters (I believe) with their M-16s. Would not want to be shot at any range with the "poodle shooter" rounds. The BC is not very good on them. My son says that the 284 is the round I should be using because of it's extremely high Ballistic Co.
ETA: nice looking shooter you have set up.

 

You should be able to get hits well out to 600yds especially with 69gr SMK's, however there are better options in terms of effectiveness when you get out past 400-500yds. Going with a 1:7 or 1:8 barrel would allow you to step up to 75+gr bullets which would extend your range.

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You need the 1:7 twist to shoot the higher grain stuff and be less effected by wind. I have seen people take it out to a 1000 on occasion, but that's not practical with .223 vs varmints, out to 600 is practical.

Now if you want to talk Varmint AR's at 1000 I know some guys with AR's chambered for .260 and 6.5 credemore, they are nasty! I imagine 243 would be nice also.

As far as military the Army qualifies out to 300m only or did when I was in, the Marines take it out further. Army Infantry sometimes practices out further than 300. The army primary uses the short barreled M-4, Marines use the M-16.

 

PLEASE
keep AR and military related threads to the military section.

On average it gets twice as many views as this section(good for you)
Having all the related threads helps new members as well as the senior members when it comes to searching and info(helps everyone else).

 

QUOTE=Ncreptile;835626]PLEASE
keep AR and military related threads to the military section.

On average it gets twice as many views as this section(good for you)
Having all the related threads helps new members as well as the senior members when it comes to searching and info(helps everyone else).[/QUOTE]

Being a varmint gun, for hunting varmints at long range, it fits hunting also

 

It is still a military inspired weapon.

QUOTE=Ncreptile;835626]PLEASE
keep AR and military related threads to the military section.

On average it gets twice as many views as this section(good for you)
Having all the related threads helps new members as well as the senior members when it comes to searching and info(helps everyone else).

Being a varmint gun, for hunting varmints at long range, it fits hunting also [/QUOTE]

 

LOL Yes but the intended use and question is related to long range hunting, thus the question might reach more experianced varmit hunters, in the hunting section. . Let me know when the military starts setting up varmit AR's

I think I will go post a deer hunting 308 ar in the hunting section just to bother you and be a pita lol . Joking

 

We also post .22 ars in the military section.
The military does not use .22 to my knowledge.

I wont argue about it and I wont say its a rule, rather an unspoken one and a polite reminder to folks to keep threads in right area as its helpful to others. I never come in this section other than to move threads to their right section which I am done doing.

Post where you like. But it will get far more traffic in the right section.

Alden

 

We also post .22 ars in the military section.
The military does not use .22 to my knowledge.

I wont argue about it and I wont say its a rule, rather an unspoken one and a polite reminder to folks to keep threads in right area as its helpful to others. I never come in this section other than to move threads to their right section which I am done doing.

Post where you like. But it will get far more traffic in the right section.

Alden

I'm just joking trying to get you all riled up LOL I'm being sarcastic because I know military inspired guns is your pet peeve

 

Guys,

Play nice.

With 52-53grn match you are good to 40yds / 450yds until the wind drift becomes a issue.

Since it is a 1/9 twist, you need to shoot some 68, 69 and 77grn in that rifle. If any of these can group .75 MOA @ 200yds you will be good to 700yds.

John

 

Shooting out on range 66D on base we pushed a bolt action 223 out to 800m and the weapon hit well. Keep in mind this was done with handloads. We also push a AR 223 out to this distance and it held MOA as well. So the rifle will take the bullet out there. But those were some really tuned rifles.
Most Mil rifles will shoot out to 600m with Iron sights and hit a man size target. It is the shooter that messes it up. There are not many areas in NC where you can make a shot of more than 300m. So you should be good to go as far as hunting.

 

Silver and I are friends, just haggling amongst mosin club members ;guntoot

Guys,

Play nice.

With 52-53grn match you are good to 40yds / 450yds until the wind drift becomes a issue.

Since it is a 1/9 twist, you need to shoot some 68, 69 and 77grn in that rifle. If any of these can group .75 MOA @ 200yds you will be good to 700yds.

John

 

Silver and I are friends, just haggling amongst mosin club members ;guntoot

Originally Posted by J.Boyette
Guys,

Play nice.

With 52-53grn match you are good to 40yds / 450yds until the wind drift becomes a issue.

Since it is a 1/9 twist, you need to shoot some 68, 69 and 77grn in that rifle. If any of these can group .75 MOA @ 200yds you will be good to 700yds.

John

That's right. Just messing with him trying to get his panties in a wad for a laugh

 

I shoot NRA/CMP service rifle and shooting at 600yd is part of the course of fire. Granted, I am shooting handloads using a Berger 82gr bullet in a 1-7 twist barrel. I've also shot my A2 service rifle to 800yds using iron sights and managed to hold the 9-ring (roughly about 30")

As stated, the twist rate on your barrel is going to be the limiting factor. A 69gr bullet will certainly reach to 600yds, and perhaps a little farther, but you will be losing a lot to the wind. If you play around with load development you might find a good bullet/powder combination.

 

i was really wondering if i should put more into this one "barrel" 1-7 or just start building something else

 

i was really wondering if i should put more into this one "barrel" 1-7 or just start building something else

http://www.rainierarms.com/?page=shop/detail&product_id=815

http://www.rainierarms.com/?page=shop/detail&product_id=2265

http://www.rainierarms.com/?page=shop/detail&product_id=956

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How far are you wanting to shoot? More than 600yds is very hard to find in NC. That is just fine for 1:9" twist.

 

quote from above: The military does not use .22 to my knowledge.
well, you have to expand into the .22xxx to make that true.
the .22LR, alrighty, then, but not .22(and stop there).