ask loommis

 

Probably a .38 and that's it. If I recall correctly that's all security guards are allowed.

 

One guy i know carried a Glock 22 that he bought with a stipend. He carried a company issued S&W Model 10 prior to that. Another guy I know carries a SigPro in .40 S&W. I don't think they allow .357 SIG or 10mm.

 

Unless something has changed, armed guards can only carry .38's or 9mm's.

 

I don't know what the rules are now but a guy I knew drove for Loomis four or five years ago and said they carry some sort of .38 revolver.

 

Just out of curiosity, I wonder if the revolver has to be chambered in 38 or
A 357 loaded with 38's would be ok.

 

iirc the gun can be chambered for 357

 

No one deleted your post it was moved to a non-firearms section.

http://www.carolinashootersforum.com/showthread.php?t=110209&highlight=loomis

I would ask Loomis.

 

Unless something has changed, armed guards can only carry .38's or 9mm's.

I can tell you for a fact that I know two guys working for Loomis part-time that are carrying 40's. They have to qualify annually with what they carry. Their qualification was at Calibers in Greensboro.

Loomis had a list of manufacturers and calibers that they could chose from.

 

I can tell you for a fact that I know two guys working for Loomis part-time that are carrying 40's. They have to qualify annually with what they carry. Their qualification was at Calibers in Greensboro.

Loomis had a list of manufacturers and calibers that they could chose from.

I did some digging and came up with the following concernong what can be carried:

An armed security guard firearm registration permit grants authority to the armed security guard, while in the performance of his duties or traveling directly to and from work, to carry a standard .38 caliber or .32 caliber revolver or any other firearm approved by the Board and not otherwise prohibited by law. The use of any firearm not approved by the Board is prohibited.

Last time I had any dealings with armed guards from a training perspective was back in 2001 so it looks like things have changed from what I was told back then.

 

i guess things must have changed. I knew they were able to buy off that list because one of the guys came to me asking about the public safety discount that we used to get at Arrington in Greensboro before they turned into Streichers.

They weren't able to buy their .38's from Loomis. Loomis had some sort of policy that prohibited that. They were afraid that somehow they could be held liable if they sold the guns and they were used to shoot someone.

One of the guys used to work for me at the Fire Department. He had to request time off to go qualify. The office in Kernersville cut back a lot because they were losing accounts to some other services like Garda.

 

I don't think it was Loomis but the guard that I see on a regular basis carries a s&w 686 with an 8 3/8 barrel. He carried it on his hip too. I was a bit surprised when I saw it. It would probably take him a year and a half to draw it if he needed to.

 

The issued gun is a .38 spl, I think they were Ruger GP100s with 38s.

BTW, there is no law about what guards can carry. I carried a 40SW Sig while I did the job a few years ago (personal weapon, and big mistake). The only real rule is it has to be double action (no 1911s).

 

I don't think it was Loomis but the guard that I see on a regular basis carries a s&w 686 with an 8 3/8 barrel. He carried it on his hip too. I was a bit surprised when I saw it. It would probably take him a year and a half to draw it if he needed to.

That was the gun issued to the second company I worked for, leased from S&W. I think they chose the longer barrel because they REALLY don't want the guards to ever draw. They actually trained us on how to run away during a robbery.

 

That was the gun issued to the second company I worked for, leased from S&W. I think they chose the longer barrel because they REALLY don't want the guards to ever draw. They actually trained us on how to run away during a robbery.

Wow... So basically you were supposed to surrender the product, which in turn causes them business. I guess that makes a lot of sense when you think about it (sarcastic)...

On the other hand, it is a pretty intimidating firearm.

 

Wow... So basically you were supposed to surrender the product, which in turn causes them business. I guess that makes a lot of sense when you think about it (sarcastic)...

On the other hand, it is a pretty intimidating firearm.

Well, as they always told us, the money is insured. And as I always said, I'd give them the whole darn truck if they let my driver and I get out unharmed. Those guys aren't paid nearly enough to get into a shoot out over that stuff. It was a $9 an hour job. Let the insurance company handle it.

 

That is an insulting amount for what they want in qualifications and job demands.

That's pretty much the story with ANY job these days. Welcome to the Obama economy.

 

I went thru the hiring process for an armored car driver about 6-7 years ago. They really check you out and ask alot of you. Then you find out that they only pay about 10.50hr.
That is an insulting amount for what they want in qualifications and job demands.

And $10.50 an hour was a lot! I started at $8 an hour and left three years later making $10 an hour as a manager.

 

Ow! I was dealing with Wells Fargo and the lady said I would be doing ATM servicing.
I would have been coming in with manger exp though.

I did banks and ATMs with my first company, banks and businesses only with the second (they didn't service ATMs) and eventually worked in the vault. I actually enjoyed doing the machines, working the vault was a close second. With the ATMs, you only had to deal with crabby ATM users who were too lazy to use the walk up ATM and spent more energy giving you hell for doing your job.