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Bought two more cans this week...so I'll put all my pending forms in one post to track them.

Item: Silencerco Saker 7.62
Method: Paper F4 Trust
Purchased: 4/18/14 (Silencer Shop Direct)
Form 3 faxed: 4/22/14
Form 4 mailed: 6/14/14
Check cashed: 6/30/14
Pending: 7/24/14
Problem status: 11/5/14
Error letter received: 11/10/14
Form returned: 11/12/14
Form received by Rsch Asst: 11/17/14
Form given to examiner: 11/17/14
Approved: 11/19/14
Received: 11/24/14
Examiner: Shannon Siviero

Item: Silencerco Octane 9 HD 2
Method: Paper F4 Trust
Purchased: 4/23/14 (SSD)
Form 3 faxed: 4/24/14
Form 4 mailed: 6/14/14
Check cashed: 6/30/14
Pending: 7/24/14
Problem status: 11/5/14
Error letter received: 11/10/14
Form returned: 11/12/14
Form received by Rsch Asst: 11/17/14
Form given to examiner: 11/17/14
Approved: 11/19/14
Received: 11/24/14
Examiner: Shannon Siviero

Item: Silencerco Spectre II
Method: Paper F4 Trust
Purchased: 6/2/14 (SSD)
Form 3 faxed: 6/3/14
Form 4 mailed: 7/21/14
Check cashed: 8/4/14
Pending: 8/20/14
Approved: 11/28/14
Received: 12/12/14
Examiner: Nathan Hartsock

Item: Silencerco Warlock II
Method: Paper F4 Trust
Purchased: 7/12/14 (in stock locally)
Form 4 mailed: 7/14/14
Check cashed: 7/17/14
Pending: 7/30/14
Approved: 11/13/14
Received: 11/24/14
Examiner: Jason Dickens

Item: Silencerco Octane 45 HD
Method: Paper F4 Trust
Purchased: 9/17/14 (in stock locally)
Form 4 mailed: 9/18/14
Check cashed: 9/22/14
Pending: 10/22/14
Approved: 1/6/15
Received: 1/12/15
Examiner: Jesse Huff

Item: YHM ULT
Method: Paper F4 Trust
Purchased: 9/17/14 (local dealer ordered)
Form 3 faxed: 9/17/14
Form 4 mailed: 9/18/14
Check cashed: 9/22/14
Pending: 10/22/14
F3 approved: 10/25/14
F4 approved: 1/6/15
F4 received: 1/12/15
Examiner: Jesse Huff

Call me overly optimistic, but I think I'll see the first four by Christmas, maybe even Thanksgiving. Saw a 5/1 Pending date (not mine) on an F4 approved on 9/5. Really wish I'd found Scott (who I bought the Warlock, and then Octane 45 & ULT from) earlier. Might even have the Spectre/Octane 9/Saker already.

ETA 9/24/14: four more

Item: Silencerco 9Osprey, Saker 556, Spectre II and Warlock II
Method: Paper F4 Trust
Purchased: 9/24/14 (in stock locally)
Form 4 mailed: 9/25/14
Check cashed: 10/1/14
Pending: 10/22/14
Approved: 1/12/15
Received: 1/20/15
Examiner: Christina Farris


ETA 10/5/14: one more

Item: Silencerco Sparrow 22
Method: Paper F4 Trust
Purchased: 10/5/14 (local dealer ordered)
Form 3 faxed: 10/6/14
Form 4 mailed: 10/8/14
Check cashed: 10/20/14
Form 3 approved: 11/16/14
Sparrow arrived at dealer: 11/26
Pending: 10/17/14
Approved: 1/18/15
Received: 1/24/15
Examiner: Heather Thompson
 
Nice collection. ^^^

I'm debating a Mini 5.56 can of some sort...if I submit it this fall I can get it back in time for spring weather. Gotta get the wife on board
Thanks. They'll join my first "in case 41P happens" trio that arrived a couple months ago (2 paper forms from Aug/Sep '13 and a Jan '14 eFile)...YHM LT, SiCo 45Osprey and Spectre II:

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The rest will fill in some gaps and also allow me to leave some mounted if I want. I'm really excited about the Saker. I bought it in April and chose the Y-mount, which didn't even exist at the time. It was rumored since the 5.56 Saker came out, and was even in the manual. It was finally released a couple weeks ago, and they shipped mine directly to me to check out. Here it is on the left compared to my LT:

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That will let me share the LT/Saker/ULT across all hosts without having to change any muzzle devices. If anybody wants to see more pics, I posted them in SiCo's Industry Forum on ARFCOM, direct link here (the first three pages are just discussion about if/when it would actually be released.
 
Updated my post above to show the checks were cashed 9/22 for the F4s mailed 9/18. I'll update with Pending dates to give an idea of current timeframe. Probably call in two weeks to check. What I've seen recently is people are getting Pending dates that are anywhere from the day before the money is withdrawn (check isn't actually cashed...it's an EFT/ACH transaction) to a couple days afterwards. But, that date isn't given for a couple weeks. As an example, the Warlock I bought had check cashed on 8/4, but when I called around 8/12 to ask about something it wasn't in the system. I called back a week later and was given 8/4 as the Pending date.

As a side note...when Scott emailed me to let me know the checks were cashed, he also said he'd just gotten back the first paper F4s he filed after EForms went down. Form 4s mailed 4/21/14, approved 9/18/14.
 
What are the dates of paper/snail mail 4's getting approved from now-
April-ish?
Anywhere Dec-May. It almost seems like they've given some examiners stacks of forms that came in the rush when EForms went down in early April, and those are starting to get approved. But I know of several people with 1Q14 forms still in limbo.
 
You'll love it. That was my first SBR.
Picked it up last night. Put 20-25 rounds downrange today just to make sure nothing functionally wrong. Chopped the shroud off and the barrel has already been dropped off at USPS. Receiver goes out next week for the engraving. Looking forward to it.
 
Nice. Did you send it to TROS? He cut my barrel. I've since switched from the FN flash hider to a surefire mount to run a mini can on the end…

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Yep. Mark has it and is supposed to thread a batch of barrels this week. Also has a batch of adapters getting the black oxide treatment (may already be back to him by now). I'm getting one cut to SiCo specs. Receiver goes out Thursday or Friday to engraver.

Figured out I had a spare SPARC lying around:

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BTW, I'm getting together a bunch of stuff for CS223 to engrave next week. Thank you for the recommendation on AR15.com.
That's who is getting mine.

I wanted to send it to Gray's Laser in TX, just to have another example. But he wanted $55 plus return shipping. I thought I'd read they didn't them for $35 like CS223. And I never even told the person on the phone it was a PS90. Might've even gone higher.

CS223 has a jig set up to hold the PS90 receiver by the top rail. He does charge $50 for the PS90, but I have no doubt it'll be done right. I'm sure you'll be pleased with his work.

For anybody that wants a lower engraved, the guy we're talking about is top notch. $35 plus return shipping, and it's usually around one week door-to-door.
 
To give a couple current examples of duration between mailing -> check cashing -> pending:

9/18 -> 9/22 -> 10/22 (x2)
9/25 -> 10/1 -> 10/22 (x4)
10/8 -> 10/20 -> ?? (x1)

I did check on one of my earlier ones since some July & August Pending dates have been approved...no luck on 6/14 -> 6/30 -> 7/24 (x2), also have 7/30 and 8/4 Pending dates with no movement.
 
Two quick updates.

1. Had an F3 sent 9/17, approved 10/25.
2. Got pics of my PS90 engraving from CS223. It's headed back my way tomorrow. Not his normal spot for a PS90, but I like it!

After engraving:
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After reblackening:
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ETA: just heard back from TROS. He was out of the shop for a couple days with a bug, back threading barrels Tue & Wed, so I should have it back in a week or so.
 
Quick update.

Two forms, F4 Trust
Mailed:6/14
Check cashed:6/30
Pending:7/24
Problem status:11/5
Error letter received: 11/10
Forms mailed back: 11/11

Reason is bogus. Just going to waste a week or two mailing them back and forth. Already talked to examiner and dealer. :(

Hopefully they're back by Turkey Day. Also have one pending 7/30, so maybe it gets here first. Not sure about the 8/20 one.
 
Did they kick em back back due to missing the manufacturer's address?
Worse than that. Due to applicant name and trust name not matching.

Short story is my trust has one of those "this trust shall be known as Lastname Living Trust, dated this ## day of July 2013" lines in it. I had an amendment added that clarifies the name to simply be "Lastname Living Trust".

The entire trust and Amendment were mailed in. The examiner's helper admitted she didn't read the amendment because "they're usually for adding property, or trustees, or so thing else" and had never seen one address the name of the trust.

So, I already called the dealer and told them to simply mail it back when they got it. The person I spoke with at the ATF took the other nine serial numbers I have pending and made a note in the system for whoever gets them to read the Amendment.
 
That stinks man, but hopefully the others will run smoothly.

It would be a nice gesture if they'd pull all of them and have them ready to go after the re-submission.
Don't think I didn't ask. :)

I had the same issue with my first two EForms. They got Disapproved, then I got them reversed instead of having to refile.

Next two paper forms had an error letter and we sent the Amendment to fix them.

The craziest thing is my first two paper forms were approved, no questions asked. Same trust, no amendment.
 
Well...^^ that ^^ hasn't been my experience so far. It may just be a week or two, but it has extended the process a little. At a minimum, you lose the time it's in transit back to dealer or individual, get corrected, in transit back to WV, plus the time it takes to get sorted at the NFA Branch and make its way back to the assistant's desk. At that point it moves into another stack...many days after it would've been moved into that second stack.

As info...I think everybody is aware that examiners aren't assigned by state anymore, so neither submission date nor state will set a trend. It seems like they're just handing stacks out to different people. I had that confirmed this morning when I got my reply from asking for the Aug form to get approved with the July "error" forms. The reply was:

Research assistants (my position) and examiners as well aren't authorized to pull applications and work them out of order. That being said since they are very close together in time they may inadvertently get worked at approximately same time. Applications from the spread of a few weeks or so get doled out to dozens of people working the forms. Weirdly long delays in the chronology of an application is typically due to an error being found on an application and then the delay of mailing back and forth.

So, that confirms the theory and explains why there sometime seems to be no rhyme or reason to the order forms are approved. Technically, two forms opened back-to-back could be approved weeks (or more) apart since one would be on the top of somebody's stack and the next on the bottom of somebody else's stack.
 
Unless they have changed, corrections have never slowed any of my Form 4s down. That being said I get the correction back the same day I get it or the next at the latest. I know there have been dealers that sat on them, that is why they are now also sending a copy to the transferee.
I was editing as you quoted, to add a little more detail. The mailing back-and-forth is "lost time", or I least I can't see how it isn't. Not a huge deal for those of us this close to WV, but I'd bet it's still a week minimum.

Yep...got my error letter Sat. That's fairly new, as I didn't get them back in June when I had two that had error letters sent twice. It's nice for us to get the heads up.
 
Called dealer today to double check. Even though I got my copy of the letter Sat, he got his yesterday. He did call and verify everything was handled, and they told him to just send them back.

So...
Problem status: 11/5
Error letter received: 11/10
Forms mailed back: 11/11 (I guess it's really 11/12 since USPS was closed for Veteran's Day)
 
Just got two form3 approved at 40 days and one at 31 days. They are also working weekends as the 31 day approval was approved today.
Was the 40 day mine? :D

I did see several eF1 approvals on NFATracker for yesterday, but all by a single examiner.
 
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