dookie in my pants a little

 

Step back and begin to draw. You can always slow or stop your draw if you asses it is a presentation of a weapon and not a Robbery attempt.

Based on the details given it is the only move to make.

FWIW if I am in a gun store I always ask permission before pulling out a weapon of any kind from anywhere (including a case).


Blame any misspellings and or grammatical errors on the ridiculously small keypad on my phone. Friggin tappatalk my butt.

 

dookie in my pants a little

Well sure, that goes without saying

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Assuming that you are carrying as well, you reach for yours. Not gonna advise past that till I hear the next chapter.

 

this is one time I was happy to have a double action and a heavy trigger. i beat him to the draw and almost hit him in chest with the barrel of my gun when he started screaming "whoa whoa whoa, I only need ammo for this gun" my hammer had already begun to move backwards if it had been a single action, cocked and locked like a 1911 it would have already fired. the owner was very impressed and said had it been anyone else they would have probably let a round fly. I do not even remember thinking to draw, it was just there out and in his chest, i was wound up so tight afterwards I could not sit still to save my life. thats the adrenaline rushes I hate. the owner and I spoke with him afterwards explaining what to do next time, not to just go reaching and pulling anything out without letting someone know first and making sure they heard you.

 

dookie in my pants a little

I was going to say, "Void my bowels."

 

damn...I'll bet he never does that again.

 

yikes.

Question: How do you carry while at work? Completely open with easy access to your holstered gun? or Concealed as if you're out and about town? Do you think your draw would have been the same had this happened at Bo Jangles instead of the gun shop?

Also...did you call the cops? I hear so many of these reports where a gun is pulled and the advice is given to always "be the first to report". IOW, you want your story on record first so if the guy calls and says "this whacko pulled a gun on me" you're covered (somewhat).

 

.. I also work in a gun store... what i'd like to think i would do is begin to draw and move at the same time.. assuming nothing changed my mindset i would fire two to the body... that being said.. lord only knows what would really happen. We think about it constantly and our default thnking is shoot if you believe you need to. One of the things i watch really close is handing someone a semi auto handgun... i have this fear that they just might have a loaded magazine ready to insert and use... we have been fortunate in that our biggest problem has been careless gun handling.. dry firing... sweeping me and other customers... hope it stays that way.

 

NUMBER ONE!! Get off the X!! MOVE FIRST!! While you dookie in your pants a little......

 

Did you at least cut him a deal on ammo and a pair of 511 pants? I know he needed new ones after that.

 

Going to say, it is a good thing you did not pull the trigger, also good thing that he did not press charges.
He did not do what he should have, should have ask, and talked about it first.
Had several people do that in the past over the years, I guess I did the correct thing. I'm still walking around.
Now would need to know more about the shop, the setup, you the only guy in that area, anyone with him?
I have had several guns come out the same way, only one time did I use force and it was to pull the guy to the glass, and take his gun.
For the most part I would try to read the people the best I could, and deal with then in a way I needed to.
Not going to say that I did not have my hand on a gun or someone else had me covered.
It happens. That is one hard thing to deal with knowing that you deal with and sell them, people all the time are going to carry them. Some do just as you found, and pull something out.
The worst are the CC guys that carry into the shops and then when someone looks at a gun like they carry or bad mouth the gun they carry out it comes, loaded and all, showing it off, pointing it around.
Had to tell several people to set the gun down, or put it away.
Why they want to pull out a loaded gun and wave it around just blows my mind. They have no clue what CC is....

 

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Leave pile of poo behind on the x.....


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Did you at least cut him a deal on ammo and a pair of 511 pants? I know he needed new ones after that.

And now for a TOTAL thread derailment.... I was in DC/NOVA this week and the hotel that I usually stay at is attached to JP1 (The Military Reserve/Guard HQ) There is an Air Force 2 Star with his entire staff in the bar socializing (not uncommon) A handful of Birds and all sorts of others hanging out. There is a group of about 10 guys with green beanies sitting on the table, some para rescue types and EVERYONE that was in an Army uniform had a tab or two of some sort. Then at the end of the bar getting pretty drunk is one guy who looks like a 5.11 catalog puked on him. He was not that well received by most of the others there..

 

Glad it didn't end bad and nobody got hurt. Just remember that at a gun store you will get all kinds of people. Most are gun people and have common sense and some will have a gun they know nothing about and want to show it to you to see what you know. Maybe a big sign stating to not just pull out your gun without discusion first, if such a sign is not already up. I have been in yalls store before and actually saw a guy asking what ammo his gun required. When you deal with people like that situations like you described will come up every once and a while.

 

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Leave pile of poo behind on the x.....

This seems like good advice.

 

Nice save there.

Seems like the tactical de-turding is the common denominator for all these reactions, good to know. I worked the Wal Mart sporting goods counter for a while and had a guy "present" a PPK from out of his waistband to pointing directly at my guts, but since I managed to follow the good advice here (crap a little), I feel that I did ok

I do think that the customer will never, ever reach for a gun like that in a gunstore again, which may save his life some time....

 

Nice save there.

Seems like the tactical de-turding is the common denominator

What is the best color for a tactical turd- black, tan, or green?
Are they required to have molle attachment points?

 

What is the best color for a tactical turd- black, tan, or green?
Are they required to have molle attachment points?

Haha. I've had a few that felt like they had accessory rails.

That'll damage your o ring let me tell.

Haven't been able to get a good gas seal since.

Blame any misspellings and or grammatical errors on the ridiculously small keypad on my phone. Friggin tappatalk my butt.

 

Sending you a bill for keyboard and monitor cleaning.....

Haha. I've had a few that felt like they had accessory rails.

That'll damage your o ring let me tell.

Haven't been able to get a good gas seal since.

Blame any misspellings and or grammatical errors on the ridiculously small keypad on my phone. Friggin tappatalk my butt.

 

look at the boobie test in the humidor, that will get your monitor cleaned

 

Same things happened to me.....but with a twist.

I was working in a gunstore/shooting range in Tucson, Arizona. Late Sunday afternoon. The Colt Officer's Model had just been released. A big guy wearing a white t-shirt, jogging shorts and shoes comes strolling in. We have no other customers. The guy asks to see the Officer's Model. I squat down to unlock the display case........glancing up I see the guy's hand resting on the case........he's pointing a chrome Raven .25 automatic right in my face. I think "fuck it!", come up fast drawing my Colt Combat Government Model. I scream for him to put it down and he yells he's a cop. I say fuck you put down........he puts it down and I allow him to slowly take out his wallet and show me his badge and ID. He explained he wanted a new back up pistol and wanted to see if the Colt would fit in his back pocket like the Raven. I told him I should have shot him for being so stupid and to get out and never come back. I was shaking.

He called the owner the next day to complain......the owner said he was lucky I didn't shoot him......that he would have.

(And yes, we had signs both outside the shop and inside telling people not to remove their pistol until instructed or inside a booth on the firing range.)

 

I have been in retail gun sales for 5 years and I would say that at least 1 person out of every seven pulls their gun out in the store for one reason or another to show you something, test a holster for fit or ask a question about it. It is very common where I work. Why would you draw down on a customer in a gun store of all places I could see it anywhere else but not there, that is the one place I would expect someone to pull out a gun. I could understand you being nervous if you where the only one there but then that wouldn't be a good idea in the first place. We are required to have a minimum of 2 employees in the store at all times and that is when we are closed. When we are open there are always multiple people around to watch each others back. You are lucky he didn't press charges.

 

I have been in retail gun sales for 5 years and I would say that at least 1 person out of every seven pulls their gun out in the store for one reason or another to show you something, test a holster for fit or ask a question about it. It is very common where I work. Why would you draw down on a customer in a gun store of all places I could see it anywhere else but not there, that is the one place I would expect someone to pull out a gun. I could understand you being nervous if you where the only one there but then that wouldn't be a good idea in the first place. We are required to have a minimum of 2 employees in the store at all times and that is when we are closed. When we are open there are always multiple people around to watch each others back. You are lucky he didn't press charges.

There was another person in the store.......we had an officer from Davis-Monthan AFB working part-time. And........Arizona is not North Carolina......at that time there was NO concealed carry, open carry only. So, some yahoo pulls out a pistol from his back pocket and puts it 6 inches from your head you think and do what? He's lucky he wasn't shot.

BTW, in your 5 years have you ever had a customer pull a weapon out and have an ND? That's exciting too.

 

I have been in retail gun sales for 5 years and I would say that at least 1 person out of every seven pulls their gun out in the store for one reason or another to show you something, test a holster for fit or ask a question about it. It is very common where I work. Why would you draw down on a customer in a gun store of all places I could see it anywhere else but not there, that is the one place I would expect someone to pull out a gun. I could understand you being nervous if you where the only one there but then that wouldn't be a good idea in the first place. We are required to have a minimum of 2 employees in the store at all times and that is when we are closed. When we are open there are always multiple people around to watch each others back. You are lucky he didn't press charges.

Gun stores get robbed to. You havent been in it long enough if it hasnt happened to you(yet)