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Six NC Game Wardens at the local Deer Processor's Business

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#1 ·
Stopped by the local deer processor this morning to pick up a processed deer. He said night before last six game wardens came by his place and examined his records..even took some of the records. A few nights prior the GW's were at another processor just a few miles away.

The processor said the GW's told him his paperwork for each deer processed had to have the hunter's "Harvest ID" number. He was charged with not keeping the required records.

He said I could probably expect a call or visit. He indicated the GW's intend on checking his records against NCWRC records to see if the folks bringing deer in for processing have reported their deer harvest to the state as legally required.

I'm glad I play by the rules...lots of folks don't, including some I know.

Any of you other guys heard of this going on in your area of NC?

I've not seen a game warden in years. I've heard they are piggybacking in working along with the NCSHP in some road block checks this year.

I hope they catch the poachers.
 
#2 ·
I haven't heard anything like that around here. I know a taxidermist and he records all harvest id #'s, but the guy who processed the last deer for me did not ask for one. Is there a law requiring them to keep records?
 
#3 ·
Spot lighting and poaching has gotten bad. The Wayne Co gw is helping me now with it. This way maybey they can catch if they can't catch them in the act. The spotlighting of coyotes at night gives people a reason to shine a light now. Trust nobody doing the right thing will be in trouble.

From a tree stand with a Droid. Its bow time.
 
#4 · (Edited)
I process my own right on the back patio. "Starlight" scopes do not produce an IR or white light so I can hunt 'yotes most anywhere.
ETA: if you know anyone who wants to poach the varmits tell them to come to my home. We have had one car totalled and six damaged by the critters. They are a pest just like the hogs/'yotes but do more damage. We usually pick up a couple at our lower driveway (deer crossing) from car hits. My speed limit around here is 45 mph and slower in a couple of places.
 
#7 ·
according to page#56 of the NCWRC book "If you leave an animal with a processor or taxidermist, donate it to Hunters for the Hungry or give it to someone else, you must have the authorization number attached to the carcass."

That still doesn't say that the processor bears the responsibility, though.
You are right! I just looked and it is right there on page 56. So, I guess I'm in violation of the rules by NOT attaching the authorization number (different than the Harvest ID number) on the deer when leaving them to be converted into burger, sausage, etc. I cut the tag in the woods and gut the deer in the woods. My wrong doing is not obtaining an authorization number, and attaching it, prior to dropping the deer off even though I've cut the tag.

Even though the way the rule is written doesn't hold the processor responsible, he was supposedly told otherwise. He stated the GW's told him he could be fined $250 per deer for the 189 deer his records showed processed this year. He was charged with a fine he has to pay, but not for that amount. He just said, "It still will cost me lots."

I reckon I could be charged as a game law violator as well. Meanwhile, I know lots of guys that relate the size of their personal cajones to the number of bucks they can kill in one year...regardless of deer size. Tag them and call them in? They never do and never get caught.

For years I've aged the quartered deer in a cooler of ice at home then taken the hams to one place to be made into burger. Last year a place opened a couple miles from my house that will accept the whole or gutted deer. I've used that place some.

Many years and I've never been asked for anything other than name and phone number by a processor. Looks like the times are changing as the state needs more revenue.

I've been told by two guys I know that they have been stopped in roadblocks this season. One was supposedly being operated by GW's with NCSHP assistance...the other by GW's with assistance from deputy sheriffs.
 
#8 ·
Geez. Perhaps I'm in the minority by WTF cares?

Frankly, I'd rather have a hunter catch an extra deer than the front bumper of my mustang (again)...
 
#9 ·
I think anyone who would kill a deer on someone else s property without permission is the lowest form of low. However, there are more deer in the US now than there was 200 years ago. I saw somewhere the cost of deer, damage to crops, autos, etc. I forget what it was but it was in the millions. If someone want to fill their freezer, let them have at it.
 
#10 ·
Farmers are allowed to kill all the deer they want and if they get a permit they can shoot them at night with a light. If someone other than a farmer shoots a deer out of season, with a light, etc. the rabbit police wants to throw them under the jail. If there are enough deer to let farmers shoot all they want why not let the public shoot all the deer they want. The law needs to be changed. Larry
 
#11 ·
Farmers are allowed to kill all the deer they want and if they get a permit they can shoot them at night with a light. If someone other than a farmer shoots a deer out of season, with a light, etc. the rabbit police wants to throw them under the jail. If there are enough deer to let farmers shoot all they want why not let the public shoot all the deer they want. The law needs to be changed. Larry
That's called a depredation permit, and any landowner can obtain one if you have animals causing destruction to your property.

You can take an animal without a permit while it is in the act of destroying your property.
http://www.ncwildlife.org/Licensing/Regulations/NongameandOtherRegulations/WildlifeDepredation.aspx

If you know farmers who have depredation permits, they can list you to help control animals on their property.
 
#13 ·
Almost everytime ive taken deer to droptine processing in cherryville,nc (gaston county) in the past three years there has been a gw there,especially saturday morning and evening.When you pull in they wanna see that you called your deer in and punched your tag.I heard of a couple people getting $50 tickets for not having punched the hole in there tag but it was called in.Droptine processing will not touch a deer that was hit by a car unless you wanna use a tag or a gw gives you/them permission.Personally i go by the book because i dont wanna risk losing hunting priveledges,get fined,or have my gun taken over something I did/didnt do!Oh yea and when i hunted in sc last year and took a deer there they still wanted to see my license.Happy Hunting....Kyle
 
#17 ·
Trouble is it's illegal to possess road killed deer without proper .gov authorization.
Yep

C&P from http://ncrules.state.nc.us/ncac/title%2015a%20-%20environment%20and%20natural%20resources/chapter%2010%20-%20wildlife%20resources%20and%20water%20safety/subchapter%20b/15a%20ncac%2010b%20.0106.pdf

When a deer is accidentally killed on a road or highway by reason of collision with a
motor vehicle, the law enforcement officer who investigates the accident shall, upon request of the
operator of the vehicle, provide such operator a written permit authorizing him to possess and
transport the carcass of such deer for his personal and lawful use, including delivery of such carcass to
a second person for his private use or the use by a charitable organization upon endorsement of such
permit to such person or organization by name and when no money or other consideration of value is
received for such delivery or endorsement.
 
#20 ·
Let me know when i have to have a .gov permit to hit one with my car.

I buy a license to hunt, but thats no reason for them to come pester me for following the rules.


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#21 ·
Yep. Think of the vehicle like one big bullet hitting the deer and then think about what the meat looks like around a normal bullet wound. No bueno.......
Exactly. Friend of mine lives in Alaska. Residents can get on a road kill pick up list for moose. He is on the list and was called to pick one up last year. Says there is usually enough meat on a moose that is not blood shot...major job cutting up and packing.

I don't want any busted gut jelled venison though.
 
#22 ·
Couple years ago I was in the woods hunting and my son went out to start his truck before school. He called me to see if I had brought a deer up behind his truck, which I had not. It was below freezing that morning and the 8 pt buck was still warm. It had no visible damage and no "sloshing sounds" inside, so we skinned it out. The only damage was a broken femur that had cut an artery and the deer bled out. He had made it about 100 yds from the road. Yes, my son tagged it since he found it. Nothing wrong with that road kill.
 
#24 ·
You know I get it and understand that everyone has a job and the job has to be done, but these friggen rabbit police really get on my damn nerves, ok "the law is the law" I understand it, I get it, but seriously??? are they that damn anal about leaving your harvest I.D. with the processor are you kidding me?? When is enough enough?? I hear people talk all the time about how hunter harassment is illegal why doesnt this apply to game wardens? Yes, I hate poachers as much as the next guy but you know something? If I caught someone poaching on my land who was in serious need of the food in order to feed his family and it was legit? I would not raise a damn stink about it! I have a friend who is 18 years old, hunts his grandfathers farm, sometimes WITH his grandfather, a game warden issued him a citation because he didnt have "written permission" ARE YOU FRIGGEN KIDDING ME?!?! It really starts to get old after a while, thats my rant for the night..