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This Stuff Never Happened Before Video

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#1 · (Edited)
This video sickens me. Looks like the Justice System took care of it thanks to video. Pretty bold move to plant evidence while someone is watching/videoing! Now thats a department that could use body cams. Not sure what's worse, the shooting, planting of evidence, or the other officer who witnessed the planting of evidence. So much for self policing. You can take color out of this one and chalk it up to crappy police work.

http://mobile.nytimes.com/2015/04/0...rder-in-black-mans-death.html?emc=edit_na_20150407&nlid=53082189&_r=2&referrer=

Sorry for the humor, but doesn't the guy look like he's running away in slow motion. Probably shouldn't have run!
 
#6 · (Edited)
Man, these "rare" bad apples sure do like being on camera, huh?

Kinda puts all the legislation barring the filming of police officers into perspective. Imagine if it was illegal for the bystander to film this interaction. Anyone suppose how different the investigation would have turned out?

The sad part is that there are those here and throughout the country that, deep down, have absolutely no problem with what transpired in the video. Not one moral hang-up, not a single question towards the officer's actions. There are some who are secretly cheering it on, hoping for an acquittal. After all, the guy had a rap sheet, and even if a nonviolent one, he was still a "criminal."

Land of the Free, indeed.

Shameful.
 
#11 ·
When it comes to what a man will or will not do, only he can square with that. No one knows what someone else is capable of. Just because he is an officer it does not mean he is a good human. Trust but verify. Send those two before a jury. God help us if we loose the battle for freedom to video our public servants. That was hard to watch and keep an objective point of view. Admittedly, that appeared to be murder plain and simple.
 
#12 ·
This stuff obviously happens. No one has ever said it didn't. It has happened to white people, hispanics, asians, native americans, somoans, and whoever else to. Like Wahoo said, you can take the color out of this one (it's still making it into the headlines, though). This shithead cop is busted.

There is a glaring difference between this case and a lot of the recent cases...

Evidence.

Funny how when you have evidence, the system works. It's not funny when you don't have evidence (or worse, evidence to the contrary) and some want to manipulate the system into working anyway.
 
#14 ·
It seems the family obtained the video from the citizen who recorded it and sent it directly to the NY Times. What if there was no video? Who thinks they wouldn't have gone with the officers story and there would be no charges?

Excellent press conference from the family and their attorneys this evening. "I don't think all police officers are bad cops, but there are some bad ones out there. I don't want to see anyone else shot down the way my brother was."
 
#15 ·
It seems the family obtained the video from the citizen who recorded it and sent it directly to the NY Times. What if there was no video? Who thinks they wouldn't have gone with the officers story and there would be no charges?
If there was no video and you had officer, dead guy, and one witness? (We'll also assume forensics and autopsy would have somehow been unable to show the guy was shot in the back and fleeing.)
 
#22 ·
I would have been scared if I were the guy filming it. If he is willing to shoot that guy in the back while he's running away, I'd be thinking real hard that he may be willing to shoot a guy filming it too.

There are definitely a few bad cops out there. I knew one that was an absolute psycho. He also happened to be the biggest cop I've ever met. I moved to another town when I got married, so no idea if he is still a cop or not. My guess is he ended up in jail.
 
#26 ·
I would have been scared if I were the guy filming it. If he is willing to shoot that guy in the back while he's running away, I'd be thinking real hard that he may be willing to shoot a guy filming it too.

There are definitely a few bad cops out there. I knew one that was an absolute psycho. He also happened to be the biggest cop I've ever met. I moved to another town when I got married, so no idea if he is still a cop or not. My guess is he ended up in jail.
I really hope this guy was his cellie

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#25 ·
Any law banning the people filming public servants in public, such as LEO's, reeks of attempts of tyranny, anti liberty, and corruption.
 
#46 ·
As far as I know there are very few such laws on the books. The problem is that some police act as if such a law exists, and intimidate people who film LEOs (countless examples of this on youtube). This needs to be addressed.
 
#28 ·
I'd like to read the officer's official report on what happened, to see how it compares to the video. It'd be interesting to see who well the two accounts do or do not mesh.

Anybody got a link to something like that? I haven't been able to find one. But I think it's really telling that the officer's arrest happened less than an hour after the video was provided to the city and police officials. If his official report actually matched the events in the video and he had provided some kind of justification that also matched the events as they occurred, then I doubt that the arrest would have happened that fast. But if he lied and put it in his official report? Yeah, I can see an arrest happening lightening quick.

Slager was arrested less than an hour after the video, taken by a bystander, was provided to city and police officials. At a Tuesday news conference, North Charleston Mayor Keith Summey said the decision to charge the officer came after viewing the footage.
Having to charge an officer is "not something that we like to hear or like to say but it goes to say how we work as a community: When you're wrong, you're wrong and if you make a bad decision, don't care if you're behind the shield or just a citizen on the street, you have to live by that decision," Summey said.


And quite frankly...I think the victim's family is handling this remarkably well, all things considered:

"I think through the process, we have received the truth. We can't get my brother back, and my family is in deep mourning for that," Anthony Scott added. "But through the process, justice has been served. I don't think all police officers are bad cops, but there are some bad ones out there."

I spent 9 years of my 20 year Navy career in the Charleston and I still feel somewhat attached to that area and the people who live there. My prayers go with the victim's family and I hope the typical national bloodhounds don't end up trying to inflame things in the area (though I doubt this case will head in that direction).
 
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#29 ·
North Charleston PD isn't exactly known around here as unbiased on the race issue. I've had a friend say to me word for word "if a north chuck cop tries to pull me over I run into the next jurisdiction if only so I can have some witnesses". I am also surprised they dont have body cameras yet I know some other Charleston area forces are phasing them in (Mt. Pleasant and Sullivan's Island for sure).

All circumstances of race location whatever stripped away and that is a straight up execution, I hope this cop fries.
 
#32 ·
And this is what happens when PD fail to uphold fitness standards for police officers. The get fat and lazy and unable to run after a slow over weight runner.
The guy was running away. No reason to believe he was armed. Would really have been that much of a struggle to take a few quick steps and tackle the kid?
Gen pop him. He'll get justice the high hard way.
 
#33 ·
I usually hate to monday morning quarterback, especially when it comes to LEO...but this video just leaves very little room to try justifying this shoot.
As to body cams...maybe every person working every job should wear one?
Cause i'm sure noone in the U.S takes an extended lunch break, and noone is on facebook at work, and everyone obeys all traffic laws while driving a taxi, and ... well...the list goes on and on.
I hate the idea of big bro watching every move. I understand we want the truth when it comes to situations like these...but...well I guess I just don't like the idea of singling out one profession to wear bodycams. Though I understand after something like this why there is public appeal for police TO wear them.
 
#35 ·
People want police to wear them because there are many people who will tell you what you witnessed in that video was not all that uncommon.....especially before camera phones and video everywhere. The whole Hands Up Don't Shoot thing wasn't simply about Brown or Garner. It was about stuff like this and those two cases albeit not the best examples were catalyst for the protest. Its easy to sit back and say this stuff never happens, but try to understand that it does. Its the reason some found it so easy to believe the initial stories on the Brown incident.
So in say YES public servants such as Police should be required to wear body cams. It keeps everyone safer including them.