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I have a 5 shot Ruger SP-101 3" that I often carry, loaded with .357Mag and compete USPSA with an 8 shot (.357Mag/.38Special) or 6 shot (.45 Colt/.45ACP) Ruger Redhawk.

Many people prefer higher capacity handguns, often due to the possibility of multiple assailants. You simply have to be proficient and comfortable with whatever you choose.
If you're facing multiple armed assailants actively shooting at you, you've screwed up terribly and are going to die. A 15 round magazine isn't going to help.
 
I used to carry a 2" S&W 29 .44 magnum. Although I loaded it with some hot 44 sp. JHP'S. It was a handful with some amazing fireballs, I carried it for about 2 years before switching to a .45 automatic, which I still carry in some form or another 2",4",5" barrel now.
 
Thats why I went with the K6. It's a 6-shot revolver but a j-frame size.
Oh my goodness! Ironic I had to look up what the K6 was! :ROFLMAO:

I have a Kimber DASA with a 3 inch barrel.

Except, it's too pretty to carry or shoot.

Haven't shot it yet.

At least I have my slowly building collection of S&W 63, 64's, 65's, 686-4, 15-4, and a 10-4 nickel plated. Seriously love the stainless steel so much better. Such a joy to take these to the range. No problems with my smiths.

Nickle plated is chipping and falling off on some places of the model 10.

Then the Ruger SP101 collection. 4 inch, 3 inch, and 22LR. Also fun at the range. Happy with these as well.

Sadly, I did recently get a Taurus 605 with a 3 inch barrel, except... I think timing is off. When shooting two weeks back, it felt like something was coming back onto my face? I dont think it was powder. Hope it wasnt flakes of copper jacketing. Happy I wore safety glasses, but still... not happy with the Taurus right now.
 
If anyone is interested, I have the following for sale from an estate I’m liquidating:
S&W 686 44 mag
Ruger Blackhawk 357 Mag
Ruger Super Blackhawk 44 Mag (Qty 2)
Freedom Arms Model 83 Premier in 454 Cassoul, unfired
Ruger SASS Vaquero set, unfired

Located in Mooresville area. Will be posting to the FS area soon…. I’m still cataloging everything.
 
If anyone is interested, I have the following for sale from an estate I’m liquidating:
S&W 686 44 mag
Ruger Blackhawk 357 Mag
Ruger Super Blackhawk 44 Mag (Qty 2)
Freedom Arms Model 83 Premier in 454 Cassoul, unfired
Ruger SASS Vaquero set, unfired

Located in Mooresville area. Will be posting to the FS area soon…. I’m still cataloging everything.
Did they make a S&W 686 in 44 MAG? Would be funny if it was a 686 plus in 44 MAG :D

Or was that the 69? Or 29? I can't remember.
 
If you're facing multiple armed assailants actively shooting at you, you've screwed up terribly and are going to die. A 15 round magazine isn't going to help.
"You don't get to pick the day you need your gun. Someone else will pick that day, and they will only tell you at the last minute."

I can guarantee that in defending one's life having a 15 round magazine won't hurt, but hopefully would not be necessary. The average armed encounter (from the information I have come across) is recommended to be three rounds, three yards, three seconds.

In addition, it is no guarantee a person will know how many assailants they might face in a defense of their life incident. It has nothing to do with"screwing up" necessarily, and suggesting that someone is automatically "going to die" is a poor mindset.

One must prepare as best they can with tools/equipment that they are or become proficient with.
 
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"You don't get to pick the day you need your gun. Someone else will pick that day, and they will only tell you know at the last minute."

I can guarantee that in defending one's life having a 15 round magazine won't hurt, but hopefully would not be necessary. The average armed encounter (from the information I have come across) is recommended to be three rounds, three yards, three seconds.

In addition, it is no guarantee a person will know how many assailants they might face in a defense of their life incident. It has nothing to do with"screwing up" necessarily, and suggesting that someone is automatically "going to die" is a poor mindset.

One must prepare as best they can with tools/equipment that they are or become proficient with.
I encounter this attitude frequently.
A gun that jams on the second round is useless in a gunfight, I dont care how many rounds you have. There are very very few cases of private citizens needing more than even 5 rounds. By the time those are gone everyone is either dead, disabled, or running like heck.
Yes, being shot at by multiple attackers when you're a private citizen indicates you've done something terribly wrong. You've made the wrong friends, gone to the wrong places, or engaged in the wrong business. And yes you're going to die, or wish you had.
 
Before I throw my two cents worth into this unending and unwinnable argument, I will wish you all a Merry Christmas.

My take on which gun, how many rounds, extra mags or speed loaders, etc. is that almost all of it is meaningless if you can't shoot.

Shot placement is more important than caliber in most cases (not a big fan of .22 or .25, even .32 or .380). That said, a .22 in a vital organ is much better than a .44 in a wall, the woods, or somewhere else besides the target.

Carry a gun that is concealable with a comfortable rig. Shoot it regularly and be proficient.

A guy that I occasionally shoot with carries a Smith lightweight .44, think it is a 329PD (I think, anyway). Nice gun; I shot it once, opened the cylinder, and handed it back. One and done here. He doesn't practice much because it hurts. Can't hit a 12" steel plate at 10 yards because he flinches so much. Useless.

Personally, over the many years I've had my CCW, I've carried everything from a 4" N-frame (M28), full-size and commander size 1911s, BHP, M&P40, various Glocks. I'm about 160lbs, so weather dictates what I carry as much as anything. Yesterday, under my coat, I carried my favorite 1911. Can't do that in July with a t-shirt, but a G43 with an IWB rig works fine then. I practice and am fairly proficient with all of them.

Before I had my own backyard range, I used to spend a whole lot of time at the indoor range in Asheville. Quite a show watching folks spray rounds with high-cap mags and hit very little. We have a saying in both USPSA and SASS: "You can't miss fast enough to win". Goes for self-defense as well. Too many folks spend too much time worrying about how many rounds they carry rather than worry about where they go when the trigger is pulled.

Nothing wrong with carrying a six-gun. Takes practice though - got to be willing to get proficient double action (not cock, aim, and pull - unless you carry some version of the SAA). As someone pointed out above, odds are that you won't need 30+ rounds in a gunfight. Turn off the TV.....

A reliable weapon with an accomplished, prepared shooter will win out. Caliber is secondary. I know, stopping power is important, but a lot of pros (cops & military) carry 9's rather than .40's or .45's, and they do lots of research into what's best in most situations.

Guess you could carry a full-out .38 super race gun with 5 spare mags under a trenchcoat in July to be completely prepared, right? Or you could be sure that every one of your 5, 6, 7, or 8 rounds hits the target all of the time from your easily concealed weapon that you can comfortably carry anywhere without notice.

Might add a bit of situational awareness to the equation as well. If you think an area might be unsafe, and you can avoid being there (regardless of whether you have a right to be there), avoid being there.

At least that's my, probably worthless, two cents worth.
 
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Before I throw my two cents worth into this unending and unwinnable argument, I will wish you all a Merry Christmas.

My take on which gun, how many rounds, extra mags or speed loaders, etc. is that almost all of it is meaningless if you can't shoot.

Shot placement is more important than caliber in most cases (not a big fan of .22 or .25, even .32 or .380). That said, a .22 in a vital organ is much better than a .44 in a wall, the woods, or somewhere else besides the target.

Carry a gun that is concealable with a comfortable rig. Shoot it regularly and be proficient.

A guy that I occasionally shoot with carries a Smith lightweight .44, think it is a 329PD (I think, anyway). Nice gun; I shot it once, opened the cylinder, and handed it back. One and done here. He doesn't practice much because it hurts. Can't hit a 12" steel plate at 10 yards because he flinches so much. Useless.

Personally, over the many years I've had my CCW, I've carried everything from a 4" N-frame (M28), full-size and commander size 1911s, BHP, M&P40, various Glocks. I'm about 160lbs, so weather dictates what I carry as much as anything. Yesterday, under my coat, I carried my favorite 1911. Can't do that in July with a t-shirt, but a G43 with an IWB rig works fine then. I practice and am fairly proficient with all of them.

Before I had my own backyard range, I used to spend a whole lot of time at the indoor range in Asheville. Quite a show watching folks spray rounds with high-cap mags and hit very little. We have a saying in both USPSA and SASS: "You can't miss fast enough to win". Goes for self-defense as well. Too many folks spend too much time worrying about how many rounds they carry rather than worry about where they go when the trigger is pulled.

Nothing wrong with carrying a six-gun. Takes practice though - got to be willing to get proficient double action (not cock, aim, and pull - unless you carry some version of the SAA). As someone pointed out above, odds are that you won't need 30+ rounds in a gunfight. Turn off the TV.....

A reliable weapon with an accomplished, prepared shooter will win out. Caliber is secondary. I know, stopping power is important, but a lot of pros (cops & military) carry 9's rather than .40's or .45's, and they do lots of research into what's best in most situations.

Guess you could carry a full-out .38 super race gun with 5 spare mags under a trenchcoat in July to be completely prepared, right? Or you could be sure that every one of your 5, 6, 7, or 8 rounds hits the target all of the time from your easily concealed weapon that you can comfortably carry anywhere without notice.

Might add a bit of situational awareness to the equation as well. If you think an area might be unsafe, and you can avoid being there (regardless of whether you have a right to be there), avoid being there.

At least that's my, probably worthless, two cents worth.
Agree on all points.
As someone once summed it up: Shot placement is king, penetration is queen, and anything else is angels dancing on the head of a pin.

I had a 329PD Smith for a while. With regular magnums it was like driving by a mailbox at 20MPH and slapping it. But if you load for it you could make a pretty shootable round with plenty of power.
 
I may be a little late with my responses but to my knowledge the SW mod. 686 was only chambered in 357 mag which of course can be shot with 38 special. But to get to the thread question, I have carried revolvers but only in particular situations. I carried a Ruger GP100 357 mag 4” holstered as a backup when hunting deer and a SW 651-1 22 mag 4” holstered when on my quad stoking pheasant due to coyotes in the area. Both of these will be for sale at some point since I don’t do either anymore.
Also in the evenings when walking my dog, I will carry my Taurus 85 38 special with 2 rds of birdshot up front of the 38 hollow points. The 85 will be either in my back pocket or jacket pocket depending on the season. I’ve never carried a wheel gun strictly for concealed carry protection.
 
I may be a little late with my responses but to my knowledge the SW mod. 686 was only chambered in 357 mag which of course can be shot with 38 special. But to get to the thread question, I have carried revolvers but only in particular situations. I carried a Ruger GP100 357 mag 4” holstered as a backup when hunting deer and a SW 651-1 22 mag 4” holstered when on my quad stoking pheasant due to coyotes in the area. Both of these will be for sale at some point since I don’t do either anymore.
Also in the evenings when walking my dog, I will carry my Taurus 85 38 special with 2 rds of birdshot up front of the 38 hollow points. The 85 will be either in my back pocket or jacket pocket depending on the season. I’ve never carried a wheel gun strictly for concealed carry protection.
Like the birdshot loaded first. Reality is that in the Taurus 85 sort of self-defense range, the shot might be more effective than the HPs in stopping an attack. My experience with shot in a snubby is that it has a particularly wide pattern and will likely hit him somewhere in the face wherever you aim it and hurt plenty enough to deter him from advancing. Another pull and the deadly stuff finishes it if necessary. Good suggestion.
 
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