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Gold and silver are the anti dollar. That means they are alternative money when the whole crazy "stimulation" front running fake inflationary debt bubble economy finally comes crashing down.

This means, they are the canary in the coal mine. When you see gold soar and silver explode, the COMEX default on its obligations to deliver physical, this is the immediate precursor to the collapse of the financial system, and the start of all the SHTF scenario.

Could SHTF come in due to some other factors, like EMP/coronal ejection, war, terrorist attack or something? Sure. But it is far more likely that we will simply DO WHAT ECONOMIES THROUGH HISTORY HAVE DONE, which is debase the currency to cover government debt and spending, and cause a loss of confidence in the currency, leading to a social and economic spasm as things right themselves. The big difference between now and in the past is that the world's economies are linked more tightly. Do not kid yourselves though. Some are stronger and will be winners and some are weaker and will be losers.

I watch silver and gold to try and get a leg up on when things will come unwound. The reason for this is that there is so much fraud, posturing, and outright lies by the banking system, plus so many idiots with PhDs in math and physics who think devising a linear regression analysis on a computer somehow trumps basic conventional laws of supply, demand, exchange and markets. Our economy is being run by a team of politicians (elections matter), bankers (theft matters), and rocket scientists (numbers matter) without a grasp of basic economics. It is attempting to "fix" the problems they have created by doing more of the same, which is going to blow up in a spectacular display of immolation of assets, and a consequent depression and age of privation that will make the depression of 1920 look like a gilded era.

I believe that as firmly as Hal Lindsey believes in his dispensational charts of the "end times." I just don't know when it is going down. It is not like they are going to tell us. The big guys are not going to take out an ad in the WSJ proclaiming "sorry, guys. It got away from us. You are on your own!" Most of them are going down with it. I think the best indicator will be a couple of weeks of runaway gold and silver price increases. What that means is they KNOW the jig is up, and since they have the ability to grab what they can and scoot, they will loot the "solid" assets as best they can.

It is why a 60 cent run on silver like this morning makes me not happy, but nervous. I think every prepper should chart gold and silver, even if you don't own any.

If you want a good analysis of this, I would suggest getting the pdf download of David Stockman's (yeah, that David Stockman... the OMB director under Reagan) new book THE GREAT DEFORMATION. I will try and post a link to it later.
 
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Think it might be wiser to invest in tradable skills. You have 10 pounds of silver and no food...guess what the guy with couple cans of food is gonna charge u(if he even values the silver as anything)? :D
Why do you have to rain on my parade? I have only said about a thousand times I don't believe in any of that silly stuff like food, water, shelter, articles for daily living, and basic skills. Only gold and silver. Just like it says in the title of the post.... "THE ONLY THING A PREPPER NEEDS IS A STASH OF GOLD AND SILVER"

It may be hard (obviously is!) for some in here to grasp, but there is a difference between

1) figuring out the signs for when things are coming uraveled and
2) living in the midst of them being unraveled and
3) building wealth out of the ashes when things start coming back together.

Silver and gold are good for 1) (this is the subject of the OP. They are good for 2) unless things are absolutely spectacularly crazy zombieland messed up... and in that case almost no one is going to survive anyway, including the preppers. those who do survive will be on the basis of luck rather than preps Silver and gold are good for 3) in that they have a consistency of use for money back to the earliest recorded history.

So, in the face of an apocalyptic collapse, if I had a choice between a stash of silver and the ability to build wood fired generators, or a stash of food, would I pick silver? Of course not. It would be silly to do so......... almost as silly as imagining that the only two options in our future are more of the same and zombieland.

Even if we do hit zombieland, it will be in the goverment dependency farms and containment areas for the facebook style leftist cretins and suburban imbeciles who even now have no clue. I don't want to be anywhere close to those folks.
 
Why do you have to rain on my parade? I have only said about a thousand times I don't believe in any of that silly stuff like food, water, shelter, articles for daily living, and basic skills. Only gold and silver. Just like it says in the title of the post.... "THE ONLY THING A PREPPER NEEDS IS A STASH OF GOLD AND SILVER"
This is a fun thread. It's like the telephone game, only no intermediate steps seem to be required here.
 
Basically, diversify. Counting on any one specific "thing" is dangerous. Sure, precious metals may be worthless after TSHTF...but then again, they may be the most important thing. Hedging bets is a good thing
 
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And coffee. Can't forget coffee.

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My next major prep list includes, among other things, a shipment of green unroasted coffee beans in 55 gallon drums. Whereas coffee roasted starts molding almost immediately, unroasted beans will keep indefinitely as long as they are kept dry. You can roast them in an ordinary stovetop skillet or pan, though it is a learned skill.

For the record, if you ever do get a chance to get freshly roasted, freshly gound coffee, it is like the difference between eating mahi mahi steaks on the grill from the ones you just caught (or bought off the boat that came in) and canned star-kist tuna. Everything is the same... except for everything being so much better tasting!
 
My next major prep list includes, among other things, a shipment of green unroasted coffee beans in 55 gallon drums. Whereas coffee roasted starts molding almost immediately, unroasted beans will keep indefinitely as long as they are kept dry. You can roast them in an ordinary stovetop skillet or pan, though it is a learned skill.

For the record, if you ever do get a chance to get freshly roasted, freshly gound coffee, it is like the difference between eating mahi mahi steaks on the grill from the ones you just caught (or bought off the boat that came in) and canned star-kist tuna. Everything is the same... except for everything being so much better tasting!
I can vouch for the coffee. Getting used to getting it from a shop that roasts and grinds their beans daily will make drinking Maxwell House feel like licking a toilet bowl.
 
I caught the part about using precious metals as an index of economic decline. Just saying liquor, porn, tobacco, and coffee. Think I'll hold on to the ammo as more of an insurance over my investments.

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I caught the part about using precious metals as an index of economic decline. Just saying liquor, porn, tobacco, and coffee. Think I'll hold on to the ammo as more of an insurance over my investments.

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On my list of prepper "to do".... I want a goodly quantity of white liquor, and someone to teach me how to distill it. I bought a hand grain mill from a guy up near Roxboro who ran his whole farm on distilled liquor. Had the stamps and all. Then the papers did a story on him and the feds started showing up harassing him and he dismantled the operation. Nice old man. He told me he was afraid to show me how to set one up because of their badgering him. We could do it within the law, he said, but said the agencies just made it too bothersome.
 
On my list of prepper "to do".... I want a goodly quantity of white liquor, and someone to teach me how to distill it. I bought a hand grain mill from a guy up near Roxboro who ran his whole farm on distilled liquor. Had the stamps and all. Then the papers did a story on him and the feds started showing up harassing him and he dismantled the operation. Nice old man. He told me he was afraid to show me how to set one up because of their badgering him. We could do it within the law, he said, but said the agencies just made it too bothersome.
A high enough proof will work as an antiseptic, anesthetic, disinfectant, and fuel.

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I think some folks are missing the point.

He's espousing the use of gold and silver indexes as a warning indicator, not saying you should put all your preps into metals.
Hopefully, reading comprehension won't be a major factor in surviving the collapse. ;tankshooter

Tans - appreciate your advice. Will include a monitoring of these indexes as we try to gauge our economic circumstances.
 
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