I've got friends who were nearby. Didn't see anything but heard the shots and took off. They are now stuck in the parking garage.

 

http://abc11.com/news/crabtree-valley-mall-on-lockdown/1468724/

 

http://wncn.com/2016/08/13/large-police-presence-at-crabtree-valley-mall-as-roads-are-closed/

 

A buddy of mines wife is locked up in there somewhere.

 

prayers for her and all there

 

here comes the gun grabbers!

 

i live across the street. i can hear all of the heli and sirens. was there around 1:30-2 and just heard about the shooting about half hour ago.
crazy.

 

My nephew and BIL are in there

Edit. Wife just talked to him. happened right beside them (He didn't see anything)
There was one shot fired

 

good to hear.
heck if you read twitter it makes it seem like its a war zone. 1 shot fired.
negligent discharge?

 

Edited to add: First step is actually to disarm everyone with a sign. THEN act shocked when people don't see, care about, or choose to abide by that sign. THEN start here:

America 2016: If something bad happens, the government will lock you inside where the bad thing is happening, and not let you out where the bad thing is not happening. Because safety. Then when the bad thing is over, we perp walk everyone not accused of anything somewhere for processing.

 

OK shes free and back to raising hell again.....

 

Nobody in custody, none with bullet wounds.
May with injuries due to mass exodus from the mall.

 

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2016/08/13/north-carolina-mall-on-lockdown-after-reported-shooting.html

 

Uhhh... Now the headline reads "Police not sure there was a shooter at Crabtree Valley Mall"

Balloon pop? cap gun? starter pistol?

 

Were there really gunshots or was it something else? When a bullet is discharged in a confined space it has to go somewhere and make a mark (read hole).

 

Big mall with really high ceilings. They may never find it.

 

My guess is fireworks and panic. With one witness being confused about what was going on. (Happens quite often) I can't imagine that such a place doesn't have decent security camera coverage, least enough to tell if there was a gun or not.

If people were fighting and they were shooting, one would assume it would at a person and not into a ceiling.

Hell I heard a 3rd hand story that they were shooting into the floor.

 

My guess is fireworks and panic

i thought about that...

someone testing emergency response time, maybe seeing what may happen if they wanted to do something

 

All the injuries reported were sustained during the panic. As of the last report I saw, no shooter or evidence of a shooter had been found.

 

So, if I'm in the mall and there's an active shooter situation I'm getting locked in the mall with them??
My vision must be getting bad, I cant even read the signs anymore.

 

I won't be hiding in the bathroom waiting to get shot through the wall either.

 

They secure the exits first. Then send people inside to deal with the threat.

You might not like it but in a place like that, it is a sensible strategy. There is a larger risk to society as a whole if the shooter were to escape and cause trouble elsewhere than it is to keep one contained and then dealt with accordingly.

 

They secure the exits first. Then send people inside to deal with the threat.

You might not like it but in a place like that, it is a sensible strategy. There is a larger risk to society as a whole if the shooter were to escape and cause trouble elsewhere than it is to keep one contained and then dealt with accordingly.

How many do they have securing the exit? Do they have a swat team or Starfleet? Likely not. Likely it is billy badass with his badge and 'authoritative voice", who as far as I'm concerned can get out of my way or schedule the the surgery to have his badge removed from his rectum. A handful of folks who refuse to obey and there would be a beat down.
I don't care about the safety of the public and I don't particularly care what happens to Mr. L.E.O either, but me and my family's safety does and if Mr. L.E.O. Needs a lesson in this I would be happy to oblige.

 

Is 35 rounds of JHP 9mm enough to vist the mall these days?

I used to think it was.

 

There's nothing that makes a trip to the mall worth it. It's a terrible place.

 

Something similar happened in NY today. Fireworks set of created a mall panic.

http://www.nbcnewyork.com/news/local/Fireworks-Set-Off-at-Staten-Island-Mall-Police-390089452.html

 

yep...

testing

 

And now all the bad guys know that the sheeple will lock themselves down in place for the slaughter if you make a loud noise in one of their precious holy places (Malls and schools, I guess).

 

or............


they may start doing it so much that they want us to only think its fireworks.... when we let our guard down, out comes the real thing and they gun us down

 

or............

they may start doing it so much that they want us to only think its fireworks.... when we let our guard down, out comes the real thing and they gun us down

I'd like to believe that they aren't that smart.........but I can't.

 

When I was in high-school I was on the ground floor (actually a recessed level in the center of the ground floor) at 4 seasons mall with my girlfriend and my brother. Somehow a bunch of balloons popped on the floor above us while we were in a book store and everyone thought it was gunfire. I remember hitting the floor behind a shelf of books and then after a few seconds realizing what it was as we saw the balloon guy above us. Not saying it wasn't gunfire at Crabtree, but I can see how it could have been something else and folks thought it was gunfire.

 

if shots are fired in a crowded mall, and there are hundreds of people around, did it really happen?

 

Novel idea......... stay the hell out of the mall!!!!

No place that sells ammo anyway, why would I need to be there??

 

No ammo/firearms/etc store, no hardware store (not sure Sears counts anymore), no decent clothing store, no feed and seed, lots of wandering ...um..."unaware" people...basically no reason to go.